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    RSBRSB
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      @bdthree
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      I dont usualy get political but I want to shout this out. I think old boris and the rest should blank out old trumpy and help out as much possible are true brothers and sisters “The Aussies”. I realy feel for them at the moment.

      Random post, I know 🙂

      Americans: Over Sexed, Over Payed and Over here, Wat Wat!

      #39452
      Dave RiceDave Rice
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        @ricedg
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        Not a chance. They’re pinning everything on getting a trade deal with the USA and not getting too ripped off.

        We will be toeing the line like good little boys no matter how daft it gets. The thing is how Boris spins it to make it look like we aren’t.

        #39453
        Ed PEd P
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          @edps
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          I too feel for the plight of those who have lost homes or relatives.

          The cause of the disaster has been levelled at Climate Change, and certainly the hot dry winds have played a major role in spreading the fires. However that is not the only factor. Trump’s solution to California’s fires may well also apply in Australia. Green lobbyists have prevented the regular setting of fires to clear dead under-bush vegetation which has fed the fires and resulted in increased fire intensity, as well as increased the local spread. link

           

          #39456
          RichardRichard
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            @sawboman
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            The news reports I have seen paint a complex picture of the Australian situation. Some currently burning areas are not the usual dry areas, but wetter spaces, even rain forests not used to such events. The presence of very hot dry winds, made hotter by the fires have propelled the conflagration further and faster than ever. Reports spoke of fires starting miles from the original fire point as the winds carried more than just embers to catch anything available. Creating firebreaks would take huge resources in terms people and machinery and it is almost certainly too little too late however much our limited resources could deliver. There are still nearly three months of the risk season still to run.

            The problem of strange vested interests preventing the right things may have played a part, just as it has in preventing flood management in this country. If it can be shown that daftness via ignorant ‘green’ practises of land and scrub management played a part, strong action could be warranted, but the horse has gone, probably incinerated to death and the stables are burnt down. Even the scrub and detritus has now been consumed.

            Returning to the original post, thank you RSB, you asked what we could do to help. Sadly, at this distance and at this late stage I cannot see what practical assistance could be offered. We no longer have skills to offer for rebuilding, we do have surplus grenwash lobbyists, but they are no use to anyone. Moral encouragement, which in practise means no more than honey coated words is about all we can do.

            As for not chasing trump’s coat tail. The PM has refrained from support, though how to deal with the mad mullahs remains a thorny question. Appeasement has been as successful as it always is, i.e. a total failure as Iran has sought to smear its loathsome version of Shia practises to counter those equally unpleasant ones of the Sunni sphere. Sadly, I see little chance of change, verily it is Shia agony on the Sunni side of the street. Containing that is not going to be easy, too many have been born into and nurtured on hate.

            #39457
            Bob WilliamsBob Williams
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              @bullstuff2
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              Actually there are US firefighters already in Oz:

              http://tinyurl.com/yfxzlxpu

              I feel for the friends I have out there. In NSW there is the family of my oldest mate, who passed away 3 years ago with cancer. In the Melbourne area there is the lad (now in his 40’s) who was the best apprentice I ever had as a workshop foreman. He turned to two wheels and now runs a Harley dealership, is married to a Vietnamese lady and has 3 children. He has been an Australian citizen for the past two years.

              I have not heard from any of them but I assume they are very busy in one way or another. What is annoying, is that there will be an appeal in this country for places the world over when disaster strikes, but I have heard of no such appeal for Australia.

              When the Thought Police arrive at your door, think -
              I'm out.

              #39459
              Bob WilliamsBob Williams
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                @bullstuff2
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                EDIT my last:

                Prince Harry is on the ball:

                http://tinyurl.com/yffwp5vz

                I will donate and then post these links on FB if no one else has.

                When the Thought Police arrive at your door, think -
                I'm out.

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