Threadripper?

[keith with the teef]

So, all the reviews are in. What do you think of the Threadripper platform?

Is it R.I.P for intel. 🙂

[The Duke]

No, just means more competitive market.

[Bob Williams]

Oh good, something else shiny, new and very expensive, to tempt the big pocket enthusiasts. Eventually prices of MOBO’s and CPU’s that I cannot now afford, will fall to the point where I can.

By which time I will probably be able to move on from this desktop, to a laptop.

When my No.1 gson inevitably hears about this, he will almost certainly build a new system. But good luck to AMD: if this thing is as good and as revolutionary as promised, it would help to shake up the market.

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I'm out.

[The Duke]

From what I’ve seen so for, unless you need many many cores, it’s not worth it. It’s single thread performance is behind intels offering as is its efficiency. Performance per watt (ppw) .

The cpu/platform has its place, but it’s above even enthusiast level. Will be good for super computing, molding etc. It is cheaper than intels set up atm (no surprise there), but depending on what you need, and how much extra the ppw works out, intel may be a cheaper option long term. However if you need all the cores, and ALL the express lanes, to use make use of many gpus threadripper   seems the way to go.

Though I think it may be ahead of the market atm, but what it does do is 1. Bring intels prices down, and 2. Speed up intels road map, as let’s be honest, intel have been sandbagging the last 10 years.

[Dave Rice]

Try running even a 6 core CPU. Cores 5 & 6 are hardly ever used.

This is specialist stuff and the CPU is just part of the equation.

[keith with the teef]

I have to say it does look jolly good. as what AMD has done this year is omg and still new product coming out in the coming weeks.

We all know a thing or to  about computing and I sure all of us could have all thrown AMD a bone on where to go.

But not like this. I could not have come up with a road map like this.

Oh BTW some games goof big time if thay cannot handle the cpu count. bumping into this problem as I run old games on newer kit.

Like Dirt one you just nip into files and edit.

Also I pretty sure that enthusiasts (gamers) to get ther hands on the quad channel ram feature will for go the Ryzen7 1800x £500 for the Threadripper 1900X £550.

Its to atractive to miss for an extra £50 you get the full chicken.

[Ed P]

Other than vm machines (where it apparently still gives the pink screen of death) it all depends on the software.

A lot of software (for example Python) deliberately does not allow multi-processing.  However once things like the stupid GIL limitations are removed from s9oftware the more cores the better. (I have some trivial programs that cause me extremely frustrating issues due to the extra steps I have to take to get around multiprocessing limitations in Python).

[Anonymous]

Ed P wrote:

Other than vm machines (where it apparently still gives the pink screen of death)

However once things like the stupid GIL limitations are removed from software the more cores the better.

 

Pink screen of death? GIL?

I’m deciding between a new Ryzen or Intel system at the moment. I’m wanting to do VT-d GPU passthrough so that I can have both Linux and Windows easily going.

[Ed P]

GIL is explained in the wiki. The short version is that Python will only run one thread as it is not thread safe.

The Pink screen of death is a specific VMWare issue (it causes a complete lock-up of the vm). Initially most other vm engines had similar problems but I believe Xen may since have cobbled up a solution.

[Drezha]

I’m looking at these for our modelling machines. We’ve a couple of big Intel machines – the 12 core Xeon’s I think. Old place had the dual Xeon’s for a total of 24 real cores. Maybe these will improve the speeds.

Will keep an eye on when PC Specialist get them in, as that’s where we seem to get the rest of our kit from.

"Everything looks interesting until you do it. Then you find it’s just another job" - Terry Pratchett

[Dave Rice]

Loads of quad-channel memory, an M2 SSD and I’d imagine it’ll do the business for you.

[The Duke]

From the early reviews, this should be the dogs for modelling work.  that is going to  be amds focus.

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