This Winter of Discontent

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    Ed PEd P
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      @edps
      Forumite Points: 39

      I thought that Brexit was going to give an EXTRA £350million/week to the NHS. Surely that should have been factored into the guidelines given by the Government to the so-called ‘independent’ pay review body. If you check it out, the guidelines say that the Government TELLS the Pay Review Board what it is willing to accept from them, but no mention of the £350million – I wonder why?

      Brexit was supposed to make us all richer, not the poor man of Europe lagging behind everyone in GDP growth.

      #70388
      dwynnehughdwynnehugh
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        @dwynnehugh
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        The ‘Independent Review Body’ is a joke, I remember years ago when I was in the police we were awarded x% by the IRB, the HMG cut it down by 50%+.  A few years later MPs had a ‘nice rise’ awarded by the IRB, a government spokesman when asked why MPs were given such an increase replied that as it had been awarded by the IRB it was sacrosanct.  Seems my wage increase wasn’t!!!!!!!!!!

        The more you meet people the more you understand why Noah took animals instead of humans

        #70391
        JayCeeDeeJayCeeDee
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          @jayceedee
          Forumite Points: 230

          Wages and ‘conditions’ should never be negotiated at the same time – one always provides the stumbling block for the other to fail. There is no point in getting a 2-4% wage rise if there is a requirement for a 5-10% productivity increase.

          The nurses know that they won’t get 19%, but the 13-year reign of the last four purse-tightening, budget-slashing PM’s has left them sorely behind, along with many others in the public sector, teachers, police, etc. Having said that, I couldn’t understand how refuse drivers wanted the same as long distance lorry drivers, different skills.

          Any wage demand is, at it’s most basic, horse trading. If you would settle for 12%, you don’t ask for 13% or you would end up at 8%. Just like buying a car or a house, you always go in with an offer that’s lower than what you’re prepared to pay, then settle somewhere in the middle, where both parties are happy.

          #70392
          Ed PEd P
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            @edps
            Forumite Points: 39

            Nurses, teachers, police etc , all these people are dedicated to serving the public and most do it not just for the money but mainly for the ‘reward’ of being valued members of society. This unfortunately makes them easy targets for Government’s of all ilks,  but especially so for the corrupt scumbags who would rather shovel money to friends than pay their way in society.

            I’m sorry to take a different view from David, but I would rather pay politicians a lot more, but seize ALL their assets if they take just one step along the path towards corruption. Obfuscating the corruption trail with ‘company loans, ‘dividends’ or family members should make such financial entities equally liable. I’ve witnessed a lot of corruption in high places around the world, but I’m sorry to say that there is now a distinct smell of it in the UK Government.

            #70403
            keith with the teefkeith with the teef
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              @thinktank
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              I am particulary up set ny the scotish govenment. They just blow me away.

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