The Grand Tour series 2

[PlaneMan]

Watched the first episode of season 2 this morning and I’m very happy to say that it’s much better than the last series. The stupid stuff has gone, as has the daft track and dumb yank race driver.

The Hamond crash is featured but you really don’t see much more than what was on YouTube.

I’ll watch it again and I’m looking forward to the next one.

[The Duke]

Didn’t mind the old track, I did mined the stupid part the written for the yank. I bet he didn’t either tbh.

Not a fan of the motor cross set up would rather a decent track.

Glad celeb brain crash has gone. I found out last months, it was a p-take out of the BBC, as the beeb wouldn’t let them do celebs around a track, as they held the rights of’ x’months. I think it was more these 3 couldn’t replicate TG for that long tbh. So they did the Celeb brain crash thing to needle the beeb.

The yank bit I hated as it was just cheap stereotypical jokes. Which said more about them 3 than how crap the yank was. I’d of like to see him back, but not scripted.

Over all it was decent today. It wasn’t topgear of 2005-9, but decent. I don’t think it was as good as season 2 of the new topgear. I thought that was very good, but tbf the second half of season one of N-TG was good. Each episode improved on the last (mainly.)

Oppersite to season one of GT where it peaked with its opening sequence of ep1.

[Bob Williams]

For me, both GT and TG are ideas that have come and gone. I enjoy repeats of Wheeler Dealers much more, but of course it has changed out of all recognition now Edd has left and the original production team has been replaced by Velocity Productions. This company came up with a scenario for the new show which meant throwing out much of the stuff I liked, which was Edd’s workshop and the work he carried out on all those Classic motors. Being an ex-worshop foreman whose main occupation was Classics, I loved the Show, and I understand perfectly why Edd would not want to go along with it, and left.

Shows like F1 are also not my cup of motor oil, and anything about the actual Dealing in motors, is even worse for me. I hated having to sell cars from our old pitch in my time and was glad when my old boss ended that game.

Steve, we have talked about this before, but I have now found Edd’s YT show, AskEdd:

https://www.youtube.com/user/TheEddChina

I have subscribed to this YT show and will stick with it to see what it’s like, have also delved into the Mike Brewer – Edd situation and the Fall-Out That Never Was. It was a difference of opinion between Edd and Mike, who was keen to take the Show as Velocity planned it. (YT is full of details for anyone interested.) Point is, Wheeler Dealers was shown in over 100 countries all over the planet: repeats are still showing. It was bigger than TG at its biggest and certainly bigger than GT will ever be. That was precisely because of the chemistry between opposites in Brewer and China, and the workshop work. It tapped into the fact that there are a heck of a lot of mechanics out there, and a heck of a lot of people who love messing about with motors. Take away what was 80% of the action, in Edd’s work, what you have left will limp along on one leg.

I think that a channel like 4, which shows so much of Guy Martin’s stuff, would be a good fit for a new Edd China show along the lines of WD.

When the Thought Police arrive at your door, think -
I'm out.

[The Duke]

I love gaudy Martins stuff, seems a super nice down to earth guy.

Wheeler dealers, for me was all Ed, Mike was just filler to add drama. (at bit reality TV style.) I’ve not seen the new non Ed show, not sure I get the channel it’s on on now tv.

However as said the show was all ed, discovery should bent to his will. As again like guy, Ed seems down to earth and a little eccentric.

Staying at a friend’s tonight, so I’m gonna log into amazon and let him watch it. He is that for from geek, he can’t change a plug. (I shit you not), so pc’s and on demand TV is way over his head.

You can see his type a mile away, He has an iPhone (with a broken screen). ?

[PlaneMan]

I’ve seen a few of the new Wheeler Dealer episodes and they are still good. Granted not as good as when Ed was doing it but the new bloke needs to ‘settle in’.

More time needed.

[Bob Williams]

It’s not the new guy Nolan, for me it’s the new format. I like as much mechanical and workshop stuff as possible, this is not doing it for me.

When the Thought Police arrive at your door, think -
I'm out.

[The Duke]

No spoilers here.

Episode 7 of season two (todays) is very good. Best ep of GT and Top Gear in probably 8 years.

Usually I just watch it I’m the background, but today I ended up watching it proper. Even the refueling bit, the low point, was half decent. Guests are good also.

Enjoyed it.

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