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[Bob Williams]

I thought I had posted this, but must not have Submitted it.

Hi Guys. I am still very ill, as the cancer is now in my lungs and spreading. I have 2 care workers twice a day and my spare room is stacked with medical equipment. I have an intravenous feedpack and cannot physically eat anything: have no working digestion. But at least I can still wash and dress myself atm and walk about to a certain extent, although  am now housebound.

I am not saddened about the fact that this is terminal: I have had one heck of a life and enjoyed all the bits that didn’t hurt, lolz. I don’t want anyone to grieve over me; the family will not, they will celebrate my life.

I will treasure the help and friendships I found here. If you all remember me, do so after recalling some daft thing I said here, in some of the monologues that I occasionally posted.

When the Thought Police arrive at your door, think -
I'm out.

[PlaneMan]

You’ll never be forgotten here Bob, your tales will last as long as we do.

I’m gutted for you and yours and can only hope it’s as painless as possible.

I consider us all lucky to have known you and I hope to still know you for a while yet.

Stay strong mate.

[Bob Williams]

Thank you Nolan, words to keep.

When the Thought Police arrive at your door, think -
I'm out.

[keith with the teef]

Good to hear from you Bobs.

[Drezha]

Sorry to hear the terminal diagnosis. Thanks for all the messages on here.

"Everything looks interesting until you do it. Then you find it’s just another job" - Terry Pratchett

[Richard]

Bob, I admire your spirit and trust that it will live on in your family and wider circle. You worked hard to inspire them, and all who have known you. It has been a pleasure and an inspiration to have known you. But, you are still with us and long may that continue to be the case. Clearly, I and others are saddened to hear your news. I offer you sympathy, but also praise for all you have done and still try to achieve. Take comfort, we will remember you.

[JayCeeDee]

Bob, there’s a world of difference between grieving and just plain missing someone/their humour/their humanity!! I’d finish that sentence off with a “You silly old fool!!”, but I’ve got a feeling that SWMBO will have beaten me to it by a lot more than a mile or even a few decades.

 

Stay well for now and the foreseeable.👍👍

 

[Ed P]

Saddened to hear your news Bob. Over the years I have enjoyed your many reminiscences, and the insights they have given me into your world and that of your family.  Please do not forget to pass on the address of this forum to your g’son, I know that he will get a little comfort from the obvious love you have for him, and will also gain a little understanding of a very different generation.

Although we must all physically die, it was once said that no-one is really dead if someone remembers you, or reads about you and just wonders …

You will be with us for a long time!

[Dave Rice]

Thought you might be out Bob, Facebook has gone quiet 😄

[wasbit]

Nice to hear from you again Bob. Dave has been keeping us up to date.

Completely agree with your sentiments on life & death. My body will go to Oxford University for medical research when I die – & that’s getting nearer by the day. 🙂 Part of the deal is that they hold a memorial service so that the relatives can grieve.

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[RSB]

Great to see you back Bob. PM me if there is anything forumite can do for you going forward.  I thought I was loosing the plot when I saw your donation “Thanks” today as was 100% sure it had been cancelled but I then noticed it was a one off.

Americans: Over Sexed, Over Payed and Over here, Wat Wat!

[Bob Williams]

Thank you all guys, I found a lot of comfort in your words.

As the Poet advised, I will not “Rage, rage against the dying of the light”. Well, I’ll be somewhat annoyed, put it that way.

I will definitely give my gson Forumite and ask him to tell you when grandad’s perch is finally vacant. Bearing in mind my Humanism and atheism, I still have the question: what happens to Mind? Afraid I will not be able to report back on that one! Btw my 90 yo brother who was a long-term Dementia sufferer, passed away in his sleep two days ago. That was a mercy.

Lee, you didn’t think I was going to stop contributing did you? Thanks for the thought, but the site and this circle is worth a lot more.

When the Thought Police arrive at your door, think -
I'm out.

[Ed P]

Bob Williams wrote:

Bearing in mind my Humanism and atheism, I still have the question: what happens to Mind?

Physicists are often philosophers, especially those who play in the make-believe worlds of Astrophysics as they have a fixation about ‘The Beginning’.  Although time is an arrow and only seems to go one way, many Physicists dodge the bullet of God and all that by postulating that time is circular and we live in a multi-dimensional Universe where time branches based on individual decisions for each entity. All this noise of individual actions results in the general trend being the same until enough changes are accumulated, but individual entities could finish up with a very different path through life.

I don’t think this is too different from Buddhist beliefs.

I don’t know if it gives you comfort that you might have to endure the bitch Fräulein all over again, but on the other hand maybe something will make you jerk your hand and spill a stein of beer all over her! Or maybe you would just like to go through it all again with just minor improvements. Maybe it will be your choice . . .

[Les.]

Bob, very best wishes of course. Just don’t forget I expect a response from you to my next linked video. Watch out on or about the calens of July.

Sorry, but I am afraid that when my time comes, like the rest of us, that will be it. No “hanging around in a different guise”, no repeat of all our mistakes, simply final. I may be a bit of a physicist, but predominantly a REALISTIC motorcyclist.  Les.

Les.

[Bob Williams]

Thanks Ed, a reasoned summation. No I would not like to revisit my former German relationship thank you! If it were at all possible, I would like to have met and married the current Mrs Williams a lot sooner, before she met her first. That would have saved us both a lot of pain. However, our kids would not be the wonderful people we have now. Swings and roundabouts ….

Les I hope to see that video. I was not actually expecting a Next Life, just musing on the one question everyone must think about towards The End: where does Mind go?

When the Thought Police arrive at your door, think -
I'm out.

[Les.]

Bob, yes, thought about it. In a discussion on SLEEP last night on R4, analogy was made between short term memory as RAM, and long term memory as “The hard drive”. I often use that myself, and I equate Mind  to Hard Drive. I reckon I have a pretty damn big and full one, but when the big day comes, if it is found, there will be a damn big, hard 6″ nail right through it. I really think there is nothing else. I have a lot of quite specific knowledge in mine, and if I have not recorded it for others to read, it will be gone for good.

Les.

[Ed P]

Back on the philosopher physicist track, many comment that life is an aberration and for a time disobeys the law of entropy which says that things tend to become more disordered over time. For a short period we grow from a couple of cells, that become ever more ordered, and turn energy into order and growth. At some time this becomes sufficiently ordered to do as Les says, and is able to form experiences into memory, extrapolate and postulate this into additional thoughts, memories and stories apparently breaking the laws of entropy all the time .

Unfortunately entropy always wins in the end and life eventually  just fragments and dissipates.

Another way of looking at it is that we were all born of star dust, and that is what we go back to in the end.

[Tippon]

Hey Bob 🙂

Sorry, I’ve only just seen this thread, I’m not on here much at the moment.

Sorry to hear that it’s terminal. I hope you’re doing ok otherwise, and are enjoying yourself where possible.

I don’t know what to say, other than you’ll be missed, so I’m going to echo what Nolan said:

PlaneMan wrote:

I consider us all lucky to have known you and I hope to still know you for a while yet.

 

P.S. To end with a little bit of silliness, that crazy Welsh bastard is Nolan, and this crazy Welsh bastard is Ryan, not that anyone ever gets us mixed up 😉

[Bob Williams]

Thank you Ryan. As I am a descendant of crazy North Welsh bastards, I know what you mean.

When the Thought Police arrive at your door, think -
I'm out.

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