PS2 Keyboard want for a good home

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  • #17371
    johnbarryjohnbarry
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      PS2 Keyboard want for a good home.

      I have a good home that needs a PS2 Keyboard.

      My Lenovo does and always has looked for a PS2 Keyboard on second boot and there on. As it’s a USB keyboard it has to (via the bios) scan.

      It takes forever before booting into Windows.

      If I power off and leave it for 10 mins on first boot it finds the USB keyboard and boots straght in. On restart or shut down (no power off) it insists on looking for a PS2. In the past (as suggested by forumites) lchanging USB legacy etc doesn’t make a difference.

      Todays brain wave, if I plug in a PS2 keyboard and leave it round the back, I can fool the Lenovo and it will boot into Windows then pick up the USB.

      I sadly ditched all my PS2 when I was converted, I was hopeing a forumite may not be a ditcher and needs a good home for one.

      It does begger to think is my home good if I am a ditcher, you decide.

      I will pay the postage.

       

      Cheers
      John

      #17373
      BorisBoris
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        John

        I have several out in the garage somewhere, I’ll find one for you on Friday when I get back home.

        PM me your address.

        Never trust an atom - they make up everything !

        #17374
        Wheels-Of-FireWheels-Of-Fire
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          @grahamdearsley
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          Sorry John but I always use a PS/2 keyboard given the chance so no spares ?

          I know you have tried the legacy keyboard setting in the BIOS but have you looked at the halt on error setting ? Sometimes just changing this to “all but keyboard” and saving the settings can help.

          #17376
          johnbarryjohnbarry
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            Thanks Boris I have pmd you

            Wheels, I will try the halt just incase.

            Cheers
            John

            #17377
            johnbarryjohnbarry
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              sos for DP (I can’t edit last post)

              Another reason for PS2, I can’t get into the bios (to change halt) as it doesn’t find the keyboard, so I can’t press delete (F11- F1?) on boot. Only on first boot after power on.

              Cheers
              John

              #17392
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                @grahamdearsley
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                Something screwey there ?

                Plugging in a PS/2 keyboard may well help you but a proper fix might require clearing the CMOS settings.

                Before you do that though, if the PS/2 keyboard lets you get into CMOS setting, try changing the legacy keyboard setting to off and saving then changing it to on and saving again. Stranger things have worked for me?

                #17393
                Ed PEd P
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                  Its not unusual to need a PS2 keyboard to access the bios, especially if a password has been set. In the latter case the bios is often set up to ask for the password before it enters into the fallback legacy usb1 setting to gain usb keyboard access (dumb!). Bitter experience with such a problem is why I have a cheap (<£10) PS2 keyboard stashed away for emergency use.

                  #17395
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                    Just for interest the legacy keyboard setting is actually the USB keyboard for legacy OS (Dos) setting.

                    During a cold start the system always enables legacy support, no matter what the setting, so you can get into the BIOS. If the setting is off then the BIOS will disable support as soon as it hands control to the OS, leaving Dos with no keyboard.

                    If the setting is on then the BIOS will leave support enabled but Windows will switch it off as soon as it loads its USB and keyboard drivers.

                    I don’t think a restart will re-enable support if the setting is off.

                    #17397
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                      @grahamdearsley
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                      Didn’t see you there Ed, think i was typing ?

                      #17398
                      johnbarryjohnbarry
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                        I will give your suggestions a go, I recall trying all the above in 2016-17 to no avail.

                        The worst thing is, the mouse works no problem and it’s USB from a KVE sharing the same output as the Keyboard.

                        As you say it works from a cold start, I start it (OK) in the morn, then shut down and re start and shut down, from warm starts, even when I do restarts after Windows updates etc. That’s the problem and reason for a PS2, just to fox the Lenovo. In 2016 I even sent one back under warranty and they changed the motherboard, it still happened. Over the years I have concluded the only way is to fox it and give it what it wants (PS2 Keyboard)

                        Cheers
                        John

                        #17399
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                          @grahamdearsley
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                          The legacy keyboard support code is very limited and its really at its best when the keyboard is plugged directly into your PC. The code dosn’t include a proper USB bus driver so even using a hub can cause it to fail.

                          Anyway even at its best its just faking a PS/2 keyboard by using system management (SMBIOS) interrupts to read a USB keyboard and then copy its data to the PS/2 keyboard port address so long live the real PS/2 port !

                          #17400
                          johnbarryjohnbarry
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                            With thanks to nudging me into the bios.

                            I found legacy enabled, couldn’t find halt, but did find (in advanced)

                            Something like Keyboardless (if enabled it stops error on post)

                            I enabled it and it now boots straight in without the error (I have faced for years) and I can use the keyboard on post even after a warm start (Windows update restart)

                            I have been in the bios many a time, yet never seen this option before.

                            Well it’s sorted at last.

                            Cheers
                            John

                            #17402
                            Ed PEd P
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                              @edps
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                              KVE or KVM? If the latter they are notoriously ‘picky’

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                              #17404
                              johnbarryjohnbarry
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                                I don’t know about picky Ed, I must be though it should of been KVM, KVE are pork scratchings. I wouldn’t get a keyboard to work through a bag of scratchings.

                                It’s my memory, half the time I forget what I have come on here for.

                                Cheers
                                John

                                #17409
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                                  @grahamdearsley
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                                  Happy you are happy ?

                                  #17410
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                                    As another out of interest.

                                    My BIOS gives me the option to halt for all errors, halt for all but keyboard errors or halt for No errors

                                    #17417
                                    johnbarryjohnbarry
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                                      I did look Graham, couldn’t see halt, but then I could have missed it with all the excitement, after finding keyboardless (option).

                                      Cheers
                                      John

                                      #17423
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                                        @grahamdearsley
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                                        You found the right setting John its just slightly different between your PC and mine ?

                                        #17426
                                        johnbarryjohnbarry
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                                          @johnbarry
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                                          You found the right setting John ?

                                          True, at least I found it as CeCe Peniston said.

                                          Cheers
                                          John

                                          #17431
                                          wasbitwasbit
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                                            Are you sorted now John? I have a PS2 keyboard you can have if you still need one.

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