Off with his head!

[Dave Rice]

They had a weak case and rightfully failed. That it concerned Parliamentary business wasn’t the issue, that has already been thrashed out. MPs, Prime Ministers and Government are bound by the laws Parliament creates, how could it be else? A PM that doesn’t bow to the Courts is a Dictator, simple as that. That we have a PM prepared to go down that road is chilling.

In this case Boris told the Court he would do something and then did something different. That is potentially contempt of court which is very serious. It’s no surprise that someone will probably ask for the Court’s opinion on that, but they will have to be asked, they won’t just come out with it.

If it was Corbyn up to these tricks I expect you would be incandescent with rage. Well if Boris gets away with it, it opens the door to just that. Be careful what you wish for, it may come back to bite you.

[Ed P]

Actually a contempt of Parliament as well. The Cabinet all deserve the penalty of being locked in the Palace of Westminster Clock Tower while they test Big Ben for a couple of days!

[The VFM Addict]

Read the ‘New Deal’ !!!    The clue is there.   BoJo doesn’t want his deal passed.  He’s aiming for No Deal and skilfully setting up the Blame Burden.

The EU wouldn’t have wanted the things that were moved from the WA to the PD moved; i.e.  Workers rights, etc.   BoJo got them moved.   Why?    The shifts were to make sure that as many Labour MP’s as possible would be alienated to the deal.      I’ll bet there are equally plans to drag out the passage of the enacting legislation if it does pass.   Its run down the clock time folks.  Just wait and see.

This is how he got the ERG on side.  Lay it all on Labour and the DUP………..and, to cream it all, Farage also who is arguing against the deal.

 

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[The VFM Addict]

Oh…. I forgot to add Bercow too if he won’t allow the vote. 😂

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[Ed P]

As I said before it ain’t over till the fat lady sings. Although the House of Commons is split in many directions, the one area they are pretty much united is in their opposition to a Hard Brexit.

If things go as you postulate, don’t be too surprised if the Commons seize the order paper and go in a very different direction to the ones you postulate. One fairly common approach seems to be to take the Duplicitous One’s bill and include a mandatory Customs Union for the other three nations and dump the stupid US centric ‘do our own trade deals’.

Many MPs and the general public are too thick to see beyond a statement that it will build on the new Agreement with the EU and just tack on something to ensure that the UK does not fracture.

[Wheels-Of-Fire]

We aint staying in the EU or a customs union. I will bet you a health secretary on it 😂

[Ed P]

Maybe some ERG MPs would jibe at the full customs union but I bet most MPs would not jibe at membership of the  European Economic Area, this gives many of the benefits of a Customs Union with the possible downside of showing that goods are UK origin. (gets complex as many components such as electronics will have originated elsewhere).

The huge problem with the Duplicitous One’s deal is that Brexit will continue to be a running sore for years while we sort out a relationship with the EU. Better to fix it now in terms of travel.

[Ed P]

House of Lords Tweet:

The #Brexit Minister Stephen Barclay just confirmed in his evidence to The Lords that, under the Govt’s proposals, Northern Irish businesses sending goods to Great Britain will have to complete export declaration forms.

The converse will almost certainly apply as well (not in the Tweet)

i.e The border between Ulster and mainland UK will be a real border as far as industry is concerned.  Goods moving in either direction between the two will face higher costs, which no doubt will be passed on.

When this news hits the Commons, the Government will be revealed to be just as duplicious as Boris – methinks his bill will be lucky to escape without major amendments, as no one likes higher prices.

[Ed P]

John Bercow is taking the flak on not allowing a ‘so-called’ meaningful vote. There also seems to be a growing coalition between all opposition parties including the DUP on a Customs Union, rumours also that the Tory rebels will come on board as well in order to avoid a Hard Brexit.

Who knows what will happen, but one thing is certain Duplicitous Boris is going to be tortured in a manner similar to that suffered by the inept Theresa May, and Trump in the US 😂

Switching just for the moment to Trump, my Republican friends in the US are normally cock-a-hoop in their support for Trump, but the tone of their comments has recently become far more down-beat and sombre.

” What we are today witnessing is a modern day assassination of a leader hated by a substantial number of our countrymen. But for the rule of law and our country’s “current” ability to enforce it, Trump would most likely be dead by now.”

[The VFM Addict]

The threat to pull the vote on the legislation if a customs union amendment is attempted convinces me that my earlier analysis was spot on.   The longer the EU hold back on declaring their position re an extension the more the clock runs down.    But they want to hold back so that Parliament truly think they are faced with BoJo’s deal or No Deal.    All the time BoJo is racking up brownie points and as I said Labour and Bercow etc., are looking like those thwarting what the public want.

To me BoJo is looking more Machiavellian than Churchillian but either way both knew how to win.

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[The VFM Addict]

BTW, Ed, I note that you keep referring to BoJo as the Mendacious One.    Frankly the whole crew of the HoC could be so described could they not?    Especially the most prominent Remainers.     Enjoy this little refresher.

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[Ed P]

Maybe and it is certainly true that a Scottish court, when talking about Alastair Campbell, once said that all politicians lie. However it is rare to find any politician who lies as much as Johnson. Johnson has been exposed as a liar in nearly every job he has ever done, and it cost him his job in at least three cases going way back to his days at Eton. An incomplete list is given here.

However it is his duplicity which is hurting him at the moment. Other politicians know that his word can never be trusted and there is now a common purpose in finding a mutually acceptable way of bring Brexit to a close.

[Dave Rice]

The EU simply don’t need to get involved in an extension date until they see what transpires over the next few days. Nothing to do with helping or hindering Boris, they will be granting an extension it’s just for how long. Either it’s a short time to get the current deal legally over the line if it passes, or it’s another long one for a GE for referendum. They will not want to be seen to be the cause of a crash out and that includes Macron for all the hard talk (for internal consumption).

Boris has no cunning plan, he never has done, he just reacts. The only tactic has been to keep people away from the detail as long as possible and that gets thwarted every time. The only time he’s done any real work is when there was no alternative and even then in need of friends he just makes more enemies. All he can do is bluff and bluster and the EU not granting an extension is just the latest.

Did anyone see Hancock on Peston try and explain how Saturday makes No Deal more likely? Obviously he couldn’t because it doesn’t. They seem to have given up on that one today, it’s back to Boris man of the people.

He’s got this week and a bit then it’s No Confidence time. I seriously doubt there will be any late night or weekend working. This is a high stakes gamble with us as the chips. Not a single one of them is going to let up on the political tricks but they will all complain about the others doing so.

[JayCeeDee]

Dave Rice wrote:

Did anyone see Hancock on Peston try and explain how Saturday makes No Deal more likely? Obviously he couldn’t because it doesn’t. They seem to have given up on that one today, it’s back to Boris man of the people.

Half the time now, any Conservative Politician asked for an answer, could be replaced by a quick chorus of “Always look on the bright side of life”!!

Having said that, one of the first programmes for a long time, yesterday’s Politics Live, had me listening to what was being discussed, without looking for something to throw at the tellly!!  It was actually a discussion of viewpoints and prospects without getting bitchy, evasive or repetitive. Tom Hugenhat, ( Con ), Lisa Nandy, ( Lab ), Tom Newton-Dunne ( Sun ), and Pippa Crerar ( Mirror ). They all seemed to respect the others opinions and even came to some consensus on the way forward.

[Dave Rice]

Yes I dipped in and out of that but it made a real change.

A Tory card carrying Brexiteer mate of mine is impossible to talk to as all you get is the sound bite of the day. He has no grasp of even any basic facts arguing that no way was the EU the largest trading block in the world. No way would Airbus move out of the UK as the shareholders wouldn’t accept it. When asked who he thought owned Airbus he said it was BAE and a lot of small British investors. In fact it’s wholly owned by EADS, a French / German / Spanish company and the manufacturing is outsourced in the UK to GKN. Now owned by American asset strippers.

[Wheels-Of-Fire]

Well that’s remain finally off the table then, its deal or no deal. Just a matter of when.

MP’s voted to delay again (They may have a point this time) so debate on the deal has been put on hold until the EU decides what it is going to do, if they decide on no extension (unlikely) then MP’s will be given another chance to approve the deal or its no deal on the 31st.

If the EU grants an extension then MP’s have a chance to propose all sorts of amendments but it looks like Borris now has the numbers to defeat the purely remoaner ones.

 

[Ed P]

Start digging your ditch Boris – or was this just another Bulldozer lie and broken promise?

He has not got a hope of a General Election until he removes the ticking gun of a Hard Brexit at the end of the Transition Period.

The good news is that through his games and duplicity he has just shafted the Brexit backers who have shorted the Pound and companies affected by a Hard Brexit. I just hope Rees Mogg is one of them!

[Wheels-Of-Fire]

Borris dosn’t need an election to get this done with now Ed. The Remoners need  to WIN an election to stand a chance of stopping it.

[Wheels-Of-Fire]

John Bercrow may even do what he said he was going to do and stand down on the 31st so we may get a speaker who stops approving suspect amendments.

[Ed P]

I think that many people who voted remain are resigned to the fact that the rest of the EU no longer want us. That is a dangerous position to be in as we need a full free trade deal with the EU if we are not to throw tens of thousands out of work – think car makers for a start.

The opposition including the DUP are united against a Hard Brexit and the scumbags who bankrolled Boris to bet heavily against the UK will lose.

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