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  • #37087
    Ed PEd P
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      @edps
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      I think Bob is implying that anything that raises emotions (and Brexit certainly does that) gets reflected in an upsurge of Nationalism. I think that Bob is just raising a warning flag. He is correct to do so as the temperature has certainly risen in the last two years. (Parcel bombs with lots of warnings to selected London targets and numerous Ulster shooting/bomb incidents).

      A Hard Brexit would inflame emotions to boiling point in both Eire and Ulster with the UK taking the blame.

      #37138
      Ed PEd P
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        @edps
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        The ‘Mendacious One’ may be having some major concerns if this Daily Mirror report is accurate. Although he IS an excellent word spinner and orator, that does not count for much if the CPS are after you.

        I guess it now comes down to who will pay the most for the laptop – those backing a Hard Brexit or those betting on a $1.50 pound!

        #37143
        Bob WilliamsBob Williams
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          @bullstuff2
          Forumite Points: 0

          Throw enough (mud?) and some will stick, but is BoJo the Teflon Man? This photo (courtesy of the Daily Mirror) which appears to show Boris attempting to hide his – er – ‘excitement’ and the lady in question appears to be making a suggestion of some kind.

          Didn’t anyone have a bucket of water?

          When the Thought Police arrive at your door, think -
          I'm out.

          #37152
          JayCeeDeeJayCeeDee
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            @jayceedee
            Forumite Points: 228

            She’s messing about with the ring on her finger, so maybe she was ‘proposing’ something interesting??!!

            #37160
            keith with the teefkeith with the teef
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              @thinktank
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              I’m getting quite high on this Brexit getting done. As with May and it never happend.

              I am full on blown to bits fed up with this brexit thing and all the carp that goes with it. Not with standing journalists and trollops. 🙂

              #37162
              Bob WilliamsBob Williams
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                @bullstuff2
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                Think you are as fed up as the whole British public there Keith.

                When the Thought Police arrive at your door, think -
                I'm out.

                #37164
                Ed PEd P
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                  @edps
                  Forumite Points: 39

                  Its not over until the fat lady sings! You may be prematurely getting high.

                  I have not seen the detail as yet, but the Mendacious One’s proposal looks like a Hard Brexit with a sop to Ulster agriculture. There is not one word on trade agreement passporting – quite the opposite, and without this we basically have zero trade agreements. i.e. WTO

                  If I am right, even if this gets agreed, trade discussions with the EU will have to take place for the next five years as will talks on fish, cars, landing rights etc. Lots of interest groups such as Cornish/Scottish fishermen are going to cry betrayal.

                  At first glance this looks like a proposal designed to be rejected.

                  #37167
                  Bob WilliamsBob Williams
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                    @bullstuff2
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                    Your last line has it Ed. Boris wants the “deal” to fail, he has always wanted a No Deal.

                    We. Are. Doomed.

                    When the Thought Police arrive at your door, think -
                    I'm out.

                    #37168
                    JayCeeDeeJayCeeDee
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                      @jayceedee
                      Forumite Points: 228

                      Well, the conference speech is over, but I couldn’t believe the music they used. I only picked up on it at the end as he left the podium, but checking the speech on the Telegraph website it was at the beginning as well.

                      Baba O’Reilly, by the Who.

                      Let me quote the lyrics and see whether you think they’re apt, or just a mix of pessimism, optimism, truth, bluster……truly typical!!

                      I’m here in the fields
                      I fight for my meals
                      I get back into my living
                      I don’t need to fight
                      To prove I’m right
                      I don’t need to be forgiven

                      Don’t cry
                      Don’t raise your eye
                      It’s only teenage wasteland

                      Don’t cry
                      Don’t raise your eye
                      It’s only teenage wasteland

                      Shall I take my hand
                      Travel south cross the land
                      Put out the fire and don’t look past my shoulder
                      The accidents is here
                      The happy water is here
                      Let’s get together before we get much older

                      Teenage wasteland
                      It’s only teenage wasteland
                      Teenage wasteland
                      It’s only teenage wasteland
                      They are all wasting

                      I’m here in the fields
                      I fight for my meals
                      I get back into my living
                      I don’t need to fight
                      To prove I’m right
                      I don’t need to be forgiven

                      I fight for my meals – must ring true with anyone using a food bank.

                       

                      I don’t need to fight, To prove I’m right, I don’t need to be forgiven – that’s exactly how he comes across.

                       

                      It’s only teenage wasteland – don’t hold your breath for the youth vote, Boris.

                      The accidents is here, The happy water is here, Let’s get together before we get much older – well he’s certainly hoping we’re drinking the happy water!! and if he’s hoping to get Parliament together, before we get any older – yes, indeed, he’s probably drinking some himself!!

                      #37175
                      The VFM AddictThe VFM Addict
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                        @thevfmaddict
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                        Your last line has it Ed. Boris wants the “deal” to fail, he has always wanted a No Deal. We. Are. Doomed.

                        I’m not so sure that he ‘wants’ a No Deal rather he knows he needs one because that is the only thing certain to put the Brexit Party out of the game once and for all.

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                        #37177
                        Ed PEd P
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                          @edps
                          Forumite Points: 39

                          I’m not sanguine about the EU agreeing to this proposal for the following reason:

                          from the Mendacious One’s cover letter:

                          “Equally important in this context, the backstop acted as a bridge to a proposed future relationship with the EU in which the UK would be closely integrated with EU customs arrangements and would align with EU law in many areas. That proposed future relationship is not the goal of the current UK Government.”

                          He is basically asking the EU to accept that there will not necessarily be any alignment between the two sides of the Irish border. Although the dimwits in the DUP have not noticed they have already signed up to a future potential border in the Irish Sea or a hard border in Ireland. Just wait until the penny drops!

                          #37178
                          Dave RiceDave Rice
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                            @ricedg
                            Forumite Points: 7

                            There is no chance of this getting through. For one thing it gives the DUP a veto. It also looks like we’re turning our backs on our nearest markets in favour of, who? The USA? Total madness.

                            Not too long until the vote of no confidence or voting down the Queens speech.

                            #37180
                            Ed PEd P
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                              @edps
                              Forumite Points: 39

                              If the EU want to be sneaky they could say “We would reluctantly agree to your deal BUT we could never agree that we would not be forced to impose a Hard Border in Eire if ever the UK significantly diverged from the EU Customs Union.”

                              #37181
                              Dave RiceDave Rice
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                                @ricedg
                                Forumite Points: 7

                                Apparently business is NI are not impressed with the prospect of an ad infinitum potential 4 year change of the rules.

                                It seems the only happy ones are the DUP who have been bought off again. It doesn’t give them any incentive to get Stormont up and running again does it? They have a puppet on a string in Westminster to get what they want.

                                Of course the big gamble is that the Tories remain in power.

                                #37182
                                Ed PEd P
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                                  @edps
                                  Forumite Points: 39

                                  Or Sein Fein decide that they will sit their 7 members to ensure that the DUP cannot pork-barrel or gerrymander* its way to power. Maybe attend just for a symbolic EU vote as they say they look to the EU for protection of their democratic rights.

                                  *Funny that all English words for political corruption are American in origin. Trump may yet add a few more!

                                  #37200
                                  Ed PEd P
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                                    @edps
                                    Forumite Points: 39

                                    Anyone know a good ditch for the Mendacious One? In the now very likely event that either Parliament or the EU will find the Government plans to be unacceptable, the Mendacious One has given an undertaking in court to seek an extension. Its either that or  find a ditch in which to expire.

                                    I must admit that at least he is funny, I would much rather see his fellow Nasty Party Ministers assume that position.

                                    #37216
                                    Bob WilliamsBob Williams
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                                      @bullstuff2
                                      Forumite Points: 0

                                      Ed wrote:

                                      Anyone know a good ditch for the Mendacious One?

                                      There is a particularly deep, huge, odorous and evil-looking dyke just up the road from me Ed. It’s the main outlet that ends up at the sea near Mablethorpe. Perhaps The Mendacious One could find this route to Europe a better way?

                                      When the Thought Police arrive at your door, think -
                                      I'm out.

                                      #37222
                                      Wheels-Of-FireWheels-Of-Fire
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                                        @grahamdearsley
                                        Forumite Points: 4

                                        Dear EU

                                        The Priminister and Government of the United Kingdom do NOT want an extension to article 50 but we are required to ask for one so please consider this letter as our request.

                                        Rest assured that if you grant an extension we will do all in our power to disrupt EU business to the MAXIMUN effect.

                                        Yours I’m not kidding

                                        Borris

                                         

                                        #37228
                                        Wheels-Of-FireWheels-Of-Fire
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                                          @grahamdearsley
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                                          Dear Borris

                                          In response to you request, you have been granted an extension of 6 months.

                                          Yours, like it or not

                                          The EU

                                          #37231
                                          Dave RiceDave Rice
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                                            @ricedg
                                            Forumite Points: 7

                                            That would be contempt which is a huge no-no. He’s in enough trouble with the Courts as it is. Try it yourself, become a serial speeder and see what the Courts think.

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