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    Ed PEd P
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      @edps
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      For those looking to stretch your brains and possibly delve into Python, this GitHub link (sent to me by O’Reilly) covers all the basics with useful examples.

      I’m not sure I agree with their definition of ‘neural net’, but in this context it is a very appropriate mental crutch.

      #34345
      keith with the teefkeith with the teef
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        @thinktank
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        I am comfprtable with machine learning. AI is incorrect and so presents the wrong picture.

        Of course CPU’s have been able to and need to be able to predict what just what mite happen next for along time. Infact they are about 90% accurate at it. Why becasue the damn things are so lighteninly fast at what they do that they cannot wait for the exact outcome as this would take to long and so have to predict.

        #34407
        The DukeThe Duke
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          @sgb101
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          This is where quantum cpu will hit their stride. They should be able to pick many outcomes meaning almost insrantauious speeds. I can see very large caches needed for then, along with oodles of ram.

          #34410
          Ed PEd P
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            @edps
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            Actually Steve the only time that large caches/memory/storage come into their own is during the ‘training’ phase (think on it as a massive curve fit with random jumps to get rid of false results). The pretrained models can be, and usually are, quite small. For example the smart phone camera systems that recognise faces.

            At this time so-called quantum computers do not really help as the difficult bit is selecting the data on which the set is trained. (hence the problems in it currently being relatively easy to add ‘malign’ data).

            The use of neural networks with their hidden layers makes interpretation and understanding of ‘how’ the model works very difficult and investigation of ways of making such models spit out ‘why’ it gets a particular answer is a major research subject. For example ‘why’ the relatively useless police face id program spits out so many false answers if non-white people are involved, or why a bit of carefully applied face paint (not a mask!) makes someone invisible to the camera (identifies as not a person).

            #34411
            The DukeThe Duke
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              @sgb101
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              Training will need cache, simple yes no questions won’t, but complex questions will, Especally the type with no bindery answer. Moral questions or questions with concequnces, even legal questions.

              The law would be much better if a computer just ate the veriankes and spat out a judgment. Get rid of a load of the ambiguity in our system.

              #34424
              Ed PEd P
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                @edps
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                Computers have already been used for ‘simple’ judgements (undisputed facts, application of the laws) e.g. link. I think the day is 10 or 20 years away before systems can judge whether someone’s evidence is trustworthy or is disputed – then we may see the happy day when 90% of politicians are jailed!

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