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  • #4590
    The DukeThe Duke
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      @sgb101
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      I a tally know the combo tree came via Vic, iirc from Germany. But I just lumped the tree in with the pagans.

      The other morning when I talked of my favorite  road that ends/starts at Llanwrst, they have an old drewyd alter set up still there. We lived there for a few months when we first came Welshland.

       

      http://www.megalithic.co.uk/a558/a312/gallery/wales/conwy/Llanrwst.red.JPG

       

      #4591
      Bob WilliamsBob Williams
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        Steve, standing stones (Henges) came well before the Celts and the Druids. The first henges were of wood and they began to be built around 5,000 years ago. Standing Stones began replacing them about 1,500 years later, all across the British Isles and some in Europe. Stonehenge was built about 2,500 years ago. Before the pyramids, in fact. It was the centre of belief in those times, for the whole of Britain and Europe. It was also a calendar-clock and part of some kind of spiritual belief that we know nothing about now: it began in the far north in the Shetlands, and spread all over Britain and Ireland.

        “Henge” is another Anglo-Saxon word: (from ‘Haenge‘) the Anglo-Saxons were superstitious about them and would not go near them. They though that was where the Old British Gods lived.

        There is a lot of human history in these islands, more than most people realise.

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        #4592
        PlaneManPlaneMan
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          Stonehenge was built about 2,500 years ago. Before the pyramids, in fact.  

          It’s very probable that the pyramids ,and the Sphinx,are much, much older than mainstream archaeology will admit.

          It’s quite compelling but ultimately, make your own mind up.

          Some light reading follows.  :wacko:

          Astronomy, Geology

          Also a good book is this one, loads in  readable condition for less than £3

          Oh, and anything Zahi Hawass claims is to be taken with a shovel full of salt.

          #4593
          Bob WilliamsBob Williams
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            @bullstuff2
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            I agree with you Nolan, that the work of Zahi Hawass is unreliable, but anything and everything published by Graham Hancock, is much more so. His books are a mishmash of speculative “fact” in which he joins up mythology and confusing ancient records, to produce unprovable hypotheses. His problem, like so may others who write ‘alternative histories’, is that, once set upon that path, he can only repeat the unprovable by mixing it with the unknowable. He was, after all, a Sociologist, not a Historian.

            https://tinyurl.com/zrgan5k

            It is a fact that there was rainfall in the Egyptian past: the Sahara has very old rock carvings of Giraffes, Hippos, crocodiles and fish. It is also known that a massive body of water lies beneath the Sahara, very deep below. Clmate change is not a new thing, it has been happening throughout the ages. The problem lies with the varying scientific theories: some claim it to have been a regular, periodic downpour of  Monsoon proportions, others that it was a steady precipitation over a period of time, which to my mind would more effectively cause the erosion of the surface of the Sphinx.

            The Egyptians of any dynasty except the last few, had no reliable mathematical tools until the Greeks took over their empire in 323 BC. The Greeks in turn, inherited and improved their mathematics from the Persians:

            https://tinyurl.com/zabyttl

            The Arabs in their turn, inherited and improved upon both. What goes around, comes around….

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            #4598
            PlaneManPlaneMan
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              @planeman
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              Bob, like I said, make your own mind up.

              I haven’t yet.

              Hancock has always been upfront about his career and life. Even the fact that he was ‘addicted’ to marijuana. I use the ‘ as it’s not meant to be addictive. He’s also experimented with hallucinogens, mostly ayahuasca.

              Hawaas has quite possibly done more harm to Ancient egypt than all the tomb robbers, ancient and recent, put together.

              The fact is we’ll never know the truth. Far too many personal agendas and too much time has passed.

              I’d rather have more information to mull over than not enough.

              I like reading about the slightly mad ideas out there, it keeps the establishment on their toes.  :yahoo:

               

              #4622
              The DukeThe Duke
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                @sgb101
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                Blasphemy, the world is only 4000 years old.

                #4624
                Bob WilliamsBob Williams
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                  @bullstuff2
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                  #  Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to you,

                  Happy birthday dear Planet Earth,

                  Happy birthday to you! #

                  ………………… Blimey, that’s a lot of candles!   :yahoo:

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                  #4627
                  Bob WilliamsBob Williams
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                    @bullstuff2
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                    Nolan, there must be a few equally mad ideas in here, if you keep looking! :yahoo:

                    But I do have an open mind to most of the stuff out there.

                    Actually, SWMBO thinks it’s vacant, not open, but what does he know – anyone daft enough to say “YES” to a proposal of mine, lacks judgement. :unsure:  😉

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                    #4634
                    The DukeThe Duke
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                      @sgb101
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                      In 1995 I went to ciro then on to Aswan, we stayed there for 3 weeks, it was a more dodgy place then, around the time, a load of German tourists iirc was killed, anyhow, the architectire on offer was brilliant, for the humongous stones precisely seated to align with stars, to figures carved that would fit on a pin head. That  was only just about possible in 95.

                      What was bizzare was the iron age type, primitive tools that was also on view, that they reckoned was used to craft these great spectacles.

                      Also there temples arnt half bad. The valley of the kings was the low point of the travels. It wasn’t that great, relativly speaking, and it was over 50° in the valley the day we was there.

                      Bob the pyramids iirc are cited as 2000 years bc. So around 4k old. After the pyramids they moved on to the Valleys to be more inconspicuous, which I think they use for about 800years After the last pyramid.

                      I’m rally scrapping my brain at this point.

                      #4635
                      Ed PEd P
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                        We owe a debt of ingratitude to many of the 19th/20th century archaeologist tomb robbers. In my books Arthur E. Evans ranks up with the worst of these for the concrete monstrosities and distortions that he forced onto the memories of the Minoans at Knossos Crete.

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