Edible East Lindsey

[Bob Williams]

We do useful maps in East Lindsey. This one was eaten…

https://tinyurl.com/ycgkayco

Scroll down to Louth Playgoers Theatre, a smashing Theatre venue that we have visited many times. I’m trying to get a piece of that, it is to be eaten later.

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[RSB]

I have been down your way a few times over the past couple week.Can not remember exactly where but had to pay 60p at a toll bridge that can not of been more than 6 metres wide 🙂 Would of been 40p but was in a van. Nice country roads though, obviously not as good as Yorkshire’s country side but close 🙂

 

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[Bob Williams]

Were you on your way to my birth county of Nottinghamshire from Lincolnshire Lee? That’s the only Toll bridge I know, that would be this one:     https://tinyurl.com/r68grko

I use it a lot, going over to family and friends in Notts and Derbys. It was 35p (cars) for a long time, until it dawned upon the bridge Board that made the queues longer as people scrabbled for change. Apparently, before the increase, the cashiers would come out when there was no traffic, to search for dropped 5pence coins under the kiosks. We always make sure that we have 20p coins for both ways before we go.

You have not seen all of Lincolnshire, otherwise you would not make ridiculous claims!

What were you smuggling around the country in the van, anyway?

No, don’t tell me. What I don’t know, can’t get me into trouble.??

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[RSB]

Yes I believe it was that one, 3 toll booths on it I believe. We traveled for about 15 minutes after that bridge and was at our destination. My father does something like webuyanycar.com but motorbikes instead so to get out of the front of the computer at the weekend we will go and pick a few up our self if people are selling. Being summer it’s not that many. Get around all sorts of places. Was in Nottingham this week, must of picked a real ruff spot, I was not expecting it. I always thought it was country side and farmers but is was just people on the street with special brew and god knows what else.

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[The Duke]

Nottingham is one of the roughest cities other UK Lee. Never been myself, but the papers told me one. Lol.

Bit really it is ment to be rough, I think it has the highest knife (or violent) crime outside of London. It holds some sort of title like that or did ten years ago

It may of been gang violence.

[Bob Williams]

No Lee, Steve is right: my birth City is officially the most violent place in the UK, per head of population. Not proud of that, and one of the reasons we moved here to Lincs. The whole ex-coalfield vilages are no better: even when the pits were booming, weekends were Fight Club time. It’s one of the reasons why I was such a violent kid. I was short, got bullied, learned to look after myself very young (get your retaliation in first!) and wound up on a GBH charge. Against 2 guys bigger than me. If I had not been in the Army by the time the case came up, I would have been banged-up for some time. a lot of the blokes I grew up with wound up inside or on Probbo.

My nephew’s widow’s eldest (nephew’s stepson) was given a 6 – stretch last year for growing the wrong sort of crops in his loft. Second offence for this muppet and he was also found with over £22K in the house, bypassed the meter, all that happy crappy. He was apparently also responsible for a rival ‘Horticulturalist’ being found with both legs broken and an ear ripped off. The police could not find evidence to prove that. The lad (actually now in his late 30’s) is eldest of 3 and the other 2 are really good lads. His mum gave him the elbow years ago, has moved and not given him the address. Joke is, he was living in my nephew’s old house when his mum moved first time. It was next door to what was the Police Station until 1990.

I bless the day we moved here. Also the day I joined the Army.

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[RSB]

I’ll remember to stop at home if that place ever comes up again then ?

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[Jason]

Nottingham’s modern-day reputation is unjustified. There are rough spots in suburbia, as there are in all cities, but the centre is fantastic and I have never had a spot of bother on any of my numerous visits, and that includes gigs at Rock City (one of the best small venues in the UK). It’s my favourite city around my way — far better than Derby and, in my view, much nicer than Birmingham. The tram system, one of the most extensive in Europe, is fantastic — park for free six miles out and pay peanuts for an all-day ticket. I almost never drive into the centre.

For anyone who lives within an hour or so of the place and who has never been — take a trip. You’ll be surprised. Great shopping, great nightlife, tons of things to do, and quite a cultural place, too. Also lots of interesting architecture, especially from the Art Deco period. The main area is laid out around a big central square, complete with fountain (and a beach in the summer). Quite a compact place. There’s always a buzz.

Some of the outer locations (Hyson Green, for instance) are indeed pretty rough, but the centre is nowhere near those. I visited Nottingham for the first time about four-and-a-half years ago and kicked myself for not taking the chance before. A real eye-opener for me. My fitness is shot at the moment, but I even started cycling there (it’s about 26 miles from me). My son is currently at university there (on the outskirts, in a so-so area).

[Bob Williams]

Yes Jason, the city centre is great. For a night out, and most Nottingham and Nottinghamshire folk are friendly. (” ‘ayup me duck, a’ y’ allreight?”) I will agree with you on that. But a lot of outlying areas are not so great, and the truth is that it is not safe to go out at night in those. It’s not (usually) visitors and students who get into trouble, it’s local kids carving pieces of each other. Some of the August 2011 riots in the UK were in Nottingham and were said to be the worst outside London.

My home was a few miles north of the city for 55 years and I used to enjoy Nottingham night life most weekends, but we would always go down to the city mob-handed, at least 6 of us, usually 9. Safety in numbers! The sad thing was, only one of us mates was black and he was often criticised for being in our company. By other black guys. He grew up in the village and we just treated him as a mate, one of us. Stranger still, he was slagged off when with us in Mansfield by white guys. That led to quite a few “confrontations”. I still count him as one of my oldest and best mates, he is often over here at Skeggy.

I agree with you about Derby too, but as an old Forest supporter I am genetically predisposed to dislike Rams.

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[Jason]

I think you may find it’s changed somewhat. I’ve never felt remotely unsafe on my own at night, even in a few of the outlying areas (Stapleford and Clifton, for instance). Even Rock City — which I was told was a trouble spot before I first went — has never been anything but trouble-free and friendly. I guess old reputations die hard, or the whole area is judged on the problems of a few small locations. Being s student city, it’s also diverse and well-integrated. I’ve visited far, far worse places. I believe the centre area is amongst the most desirable places to live and work in the UK.

It’s also the home of the National Video Arcade, three floors of wonder. And two tram stops away are two indoor 18-hole crazy-golf courses. 😉

I have no association with the place — it’s nowhere near where I was born and I only discovered it a few years ago — so I have no axe to grind and no reason to speak other than I find.

Give it a go.

[Dave Rice]

Nothing wrong with Nottingham.

Everyone remembers the Toxteth and Brixton riots of 1981 but it was Bristol that started it all the year before. Buildings burned to the ground etc. But no-one thought of “Bristol” as being a violent place then or now. Sometimes trouble flares up but that doesn’t mean you tar the whole city with the same brush. That’s Donald Trump thinking.

[Bob Williams]

Maybe I am looking back to my younger days, and if so I stand corrected. But I was born there, did visit the place for many years, so perhaps that colours my perception. Certainly the county, especially the old coalfield areas, has taken a long time to recover something like a peaceful existence. I still have a large number of friends and family there and am in regular contact with them. I visit my old village and the one next to it, to see those friends & family. The sight of it actually depresses me, but I have noticed some regeneration amongst the rundown streets.

The old NCB estate was hived off by British Coal as soon as they could move it. A start-up Housing Association took it over and made a real pig’s ear of administering it. I know that from personal experience: one HA house was a first (rented) home for SWMBO, the kids and myself. The HA was in deep financial trouble very quickly and attempted to increase the rent by 300% plus. I fought that with an independent tribunal and won the case for all tenants of that HA in Nottinghamshire. The Tribunal Head, an ex-QC, took one look at the place, took in my evidence, observed the flapping of the HA people and instead recommended a rent decrease! The effect upon tenants, of the ensuing lack of maintenance upon the housing, was absolutely disgusting. The HA started moving in problem families from other areas which had evicted them. As the ex-miners and their wives grew older and either passed away, took Sheltered housing, or went into Care, more and more homes became void properties and were given to such families. The effect upon the village was disastrous. Eventually the Council took over and began sorting out the problems, but the village remains a crime hotspot according to a retired police officer friend that I grew up with. It is slowly regenerating, but problems remain and many of the people of all ages that I knew, have moved away.

EDIT: I had forgotten my old Army mate who was born and raised in Nottingham. He is a product of the city, a big hard lad who became a trucker when he left the Army. He has moved out of the city and into the country because of trouble in his area. This might explain why, better than I can:

https://tinyurl.com/mm67auy

Sometimes the people who actually live on the streets of a city, have a clearer idea of the place, than visitors or students.

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[Jason]

Okay. I surrender. You don’t care for the place and that’s not going to change. End of story. It really makes no difference to me. I was just trying to be positive and suggest somewhere people around the Midlands might like to visit if they’ve never been before (or recently).

[The Duke]

People live in the Midlands? Thought it was a mythical place.

[Bob Williams]

Actually, Nottingham is in the Midlands – the East Midlands, as is Lincolnshire, and Nottingham has been called “Queen of the Midlands”. Notts and Lincs dialects are almost the same, except for South Lincs around Boston and down to the Cambridgeshire and Norfolk borders. Down there, I hear that there are special, parallel ruts along the pavements, so that the inhabitants don’t drag their knuckles on the deck when out walking. (That may be Fake News, a neighbour originally from Suffolk gave me that) ??

Jason, there is still a large part of me that does care for the city: it’s where I was born and the County is where I (mostly) grew up. But having been passed around through grandparents and aunts as a kid in other counties, gone to sea for almost 2 years at 16, and served 12 years in HMF, I really do not feel a big emotional attachment to anywhere. Except for where I am right now, which is the one place I have always been happy and content.

I did not mean to upset anyone, but I speak my mind and it does often sound like criticism.

Steve, only the West Midlands are mythical: Brummie is a magical, mysterious language, spoken by elves and warlocks to confuse the rest of us.??

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[The Duke]

I though tolken made the whole area up.

[Bob Williams]

The Duke wrote:

I though tolken made the whole area up.

GoT 8 will probably be made in the West Mid’s… ?

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