Cumulative Update KB4020102

[Boris]

Version 1703 (15063.332) has just installed – no problems as yet ?

Never trust an atom - they make up everything !

[The Duke]

I had a big update yesterday, seems OK.

[Dave Rice]

I’ve been forcing this wherever I can since the The Update Assistant made it available.

No issues with crashing etc. but they have changed Settings enormously, and the right click on Start menu. The only way to get Control Panel now is through the search box (you can always pin it). You only need it for the most esoteric of options now though.

[Boris]

Dave Rice wrote:

The only way to get Control Panel now is through the search box (you can always pin it). You only need it for the most esoteric of options now though.

Classic Shell still gives the Control Panel option ?

Never trust an atom - they make up everything !

[Wheels-Of-Fire]

The control panel has not gone from the start menu it’s just moved. Control panel and other useful options are now under left click all programs Windows system.

[Dave Rice]

So it’s quicker to type control panel in search then ? I now only have to get as far as co and it’s there.

[JayCeeDee]

My system is giving this a miss for some reason – it starts the download, restarts a few times, then reverts to old OS ( W10 14393 ).

I’m thinking of tidying up my set-up by putting W10CU ( 15063 ) onto the SSD. I had been trying to transfer W10 to an SSD using ” Paragon Migrate OS to SSD 4.0″, but this isn’t successful either, ( missing files or the like ) so I thought about getting the Creators Update as a fresh install. It seems to only be available from the MS Insider Programme. Is this worth joining, or more problems than it’s worth??

[Dave Rice]

It takes a while for the installer to catch up. What I do on a fresh install is install whatever version the media creator is at (usually quite quick on an SSD) and then run the Update Assistant straight away.

If you’re having problems with the Update Assistant crashing out that indicates some fundamental issues in your Windows installation. I’ve had this a few times and you can either go down the clean install & update or try a reset & update. I’ve found reset & update does do the same job, probably because that’s what it’s meant to ? The good thing about reset is no need to download the media creator ISO first.

[Ed P]

Dave Rice wrote:

It takes a while for the installer to catch up. What I do on a fresh install is install whatever version the media creator is at (usually quite quick on an SSD) and then run the Update Assistant straight away. If you’re having problems with the Update Assistant crashing out that indicates some fundamental issues in your Windows installation. I’ve had this a few times and you can either go down the clean install & update or try a reset & update. I’ve found reset & update does do the same job, probably because that’s what it’s meant to ? The good thing about reset is no need to download the media creator ISO first.

Drivers are a prime suspect, especially network and graphics cards. Sometimes though more rarely it is a cpu that needs updating. Intel equipment is often the most in need of an update which is ‘odd’ given the strategic relationship between the two. For Intel kit updating  via the device driver for a NUC does not always work for me I find going to the Intel site and getting it to scan my pc is better.

The other suspects are the ‘hidden’ usb drivers, you sometimes get an obsolete driver in there causing problems (rare). Use the show hidden devices option and decide if any need to be removed. (unused ones are in grey). You obviously will not have this problem with a fresh install, but I have included it as sometimes updating drivers will avoid a fresh install.

[JayCeeDee]

Dave Rice wrote:

It takes a while for the installer to catch up. What I do on a fresh install is install whatever version the media creator is at (usually quite quick on an SSD) and then run the Update Assistant straight away. If you’re having problems with the Update Assistant crashing out that indicates some fundamental issues in your Windows installation. I’ve had this a few times and you can either go down the clean install & update or try a reset & update. I’ve found reset & update does do the same job, probably because that’s what it’s meant to ? The good thing about reset is no need to download the media creator ISO first.

 

Hi Dave – thanks for that – I’ve just checked the Reset and Update option and that keeps my personal files – Docs, Photos,Videos etc – but nukes all my programmes and settings. If it’s going to do that, I think my best route will be to buy a HDD and fresh install W10 to the SSD, then go through the whole re-installation process onto the new HDD. That way I’ve got an instant “revert option” should anything ever go TU, just swap the old HDD back in.

I’ve been using Acronis TI to do regular backups (2 x { 1 x full and 2 x diff } ) so all personal files are doubly covered.

I just need to get all the licensing details for ATI, KIS, Desktop Sudoku – you know, all the important ones:). I’ll copy all the others, Office etc, just in case one catches me on the hop. I should also upgrade a few free programmes to paid for, now they’ve proved themselves, but I’ll do that onto the fresh install.

Dave – is it worth joining the Insider Club ( time/effort wise ) and get the Creators Update iso from the get-go, or download the Anniversary update iso, install and then update from there again??

 

Ed – cheers – network and graphics are on the mobo, so a quick trip to MSI should update those, ditto with Intel.

 

Cheers all.

 

[Wheels-Of-Fire]

If your interested in how Windows is developing and what’s comming next then it’s probably worth signing up as a Windows insider anyway. Just make sure your in the slow ring thoug or you get notified of barely tested Beta’s every five minutes 🙂

[JayCeeDee]

Well – I’ve joined the Insiders Club and created a bootable USB with W10 Home Creators Update. :good:

If I wanted to add a bunch of programmes to the USB drive that would load onto the SSD at the same time as W10, what do I need to download?? Do I need an .exe file, an .iso or which?? It’s mainly for loading browsers, Thunderbird, Acronis, Kaspersky, Malwarebytes, Office and a PDF reader onto the SSD. All other programmes, the ones where the speed difference is less relevant, or wouldn’t be noticed, would go on the spinner.

 

A quick bit of research has got me to NTLite – does anybody have any experience – positive or negative – on this or its’ suitability for what I need.

 

Edit – Thanks Graham, I will. I’m not interested in going cutting edge or being a beta tester for them, I just wanted access to the Creators Update, which it seems is only available through the Insider.

[Dave Rice]

I gave up slipstreaming after XP. The amount of effort involved is greater than the sum of installing everything individually. Apps and drivers will be updated faster than you need to do reinstalls. Usually the first thing and out of date driver or app will do is get you to update it thus taking twice as long. It’s only of any use if you have lots of identical installations to do.

Ninite is a great resource for installing many common apps in one go https://ninite.com/ Everything else I download afresh from the OEM. In these days of fast broadband and PCs it really doesn’t take that long.

[JayCeeDee]

Thanks Dave – I was running off memory and my Google search gave me NTLite. I remember ninite now and I’ll check it out for making an instant re-load. ( Edit – just checked and the only ones it does are FF, Chrome,Thunderbird and Malwarebytes and Foxit. Not all of them, but a start.?)

I’ll also clone the SSD when it’s set up. Belt and braces, as they say.:) :good:

 

Cheers

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