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  • #30011
    Bob WilliamsBob Williams
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      @bullstuff2
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      That SAAB was fast becoming a Classic and probably worth more than £1,500 to someone who wanted one. I can see what the insurance assessor was basing his report upon: cost of repair against value. The problem here is that many assessors have never worked in the Trade, which was just as true in my working days. However, I suspect that the information from the car’s owner that he wanted to buy back the car, was not transmitted to the assessor. Lack of communication in the organisation?

      When the Thought Police arrive at your door, think -
      I'm out.

      #30747
      dwynnehughdwynnehugh
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        @dwynnehugh
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        QED!

        The more you meet people the more you understand why Noah took animals instead of humans

        #30754
        Ed PEd P
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          @edps
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          One law for really old pharts who surrender their license and another for the rest of us!

          #30759
          dwynnehughdwynnehugh
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            @dwynnehugh
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            Ed P – no I disagree though some will never be persuaded – there was nothing to be gained by a prosecution, it would not be in the public interest, the vehicle would be fully compliant with all requirements as to insurance etc. etc. Tragically the occupants of the Kia were injured thankfully not too seriously and insurances will sort that out.

            Many such accidents happen daily and end up with the exact same result – in fact I would say that the Duke’s case would have been subject to greater scrutiny than many others.

            The more you meet people the more you understand why Noah took animals instead of humans

            #30764
            Ed PEd P
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              @edps
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              If you refer back to an earlier post, I said at that time the DofE’s only recourse was to eat crow, surrender his licence and pay redress to the victims. (I doubt the Palace uses an Insurance Company). This was the legal opinion of a top (apparently) Barrister retained by one Newspaper.

              Great age and surrendering a licence often avoids a prosecution. There are many precedents, but injuries make it less cut and dried. The Palace would in crude terms have had to buy off the victims.

              #30767
              dwynnehughdwynnehugh
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                @dwynnehugh
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                I would imagine that the vehicles are hired / leased to the R/Household – though I don’t know. Just imagine on the V5 having HM as previous keeper – probably add a few ££ to the selling price! Don’t know if it still applies these days but there was a time when you could lodge ££mega with Lloyds which covered you as insurance. Probably cheaper to pay by instalments these days! ?

                Take whatever I say with 2 paracetamol for the next few days!!

                The more you meet people the more you understand why Noah took animals instead of humans

                #30769
                Ed PEd P
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                  @edps
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                  As said earlier the Royal Household Ltd could make a single deposit of £500000 and cover all their vehicles on all their estates. Apparently this is very tax effective for moderately large to large companies. Even better however is to pay the premiums to a wholly owned Barbados Insurer who only has one customer!

                  #30771
                  PlaneManPlaneMan
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                    @planeman
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                    there was nothing to be gained by a prosecution, it would not be in the public interest

                    There was plenty to be gained by a prosecution and it would be in the public interest. Namely, no-one is above the law. Which the so called royals blatantly are.

                    #30777
                    Bob WilliamsBob Williams
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                      Sorry Nolan, I have posted on the Forum regarding my Republican view of the Monarchy, but I have come to partially agree with Dwynne.

                      The Forces of Law cannot please everyone here, they are perceived to be in the wrong, whatever they do. A prosecution for the original RTC  of any citizen at the DofE’s age, in the same circumstances, would result in the same verdict. What can be served in prosecuting any ordinary citizen of that age? However, the Duke immediately committed another offence, by not wearing his seat belt whilst driving. In consideration of the previous incident, that is the offence for which he should have been prosecuted, and indeed any other citizen would be prosecuted, after committing two offences in a very short time.

                      As stated by Ed, the D of E did not help his own case, nor the jaundiced view the public now takes of him, by not immediately giving up his licence, in realisation that he is not capable of driving safely, with due care and attention. I would imagine that the Royal’s member with the largest cojones might have had some choice words for Daddy: Princess Anne, the only one of his offspring who have had the nerve to criticise him. Or anyone else, for that matter: I have met with her 3 times and twice she dismissed people trying to curry favour. (I was not one of them, safely kept my mouth closed until she spoke to me) The Princess Royal is one that I do have respect for. She was the Patron of a Disability College I attended in 1996/7, attended our Awards ceremony and gave both barrels to one poor Talking Head. He wanted those in wheelchairs accepting awards, to be lifted onto the stage. “Nonsense you stupid man! I will go down to them!” And she did. Her brothers do not possess any of that attitude.

                      When the Thought Police arrive at your door, think -
                      I'm out.

                      #30779
                      dwynnehughdwynnehugh
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                        @dwynnehugh
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                        Planeman I gather from your comment that you are not a Royalist, be that as it may, in the vast majority of similar accidents involving the elderly,  removing them from the road is the best cure. Are you saying that the DofE should have been prosecuted because he was the DofE? Surely his position in tbe R/Family should not be a governing issue in prosecution or not.

                        The only person in the UK that is above the law is HM and I am pretty damned certain she makes certain that she remains within the UK laws at all times – unless you can show differently?

                        The more you meet people the more you understand why Noah took animals instead of humans

                        #30784
                        Ed PEd P
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                          @edps
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                          I do not disagree with the comments supporting the CPS, but (tongue in cheek) it would have been really nice to have dragged it all out just to make the obsequious and obnoxious Royal Reporters speak in hushed tones about the affair and imply it wasn’t really his fault.

                          It was however yet another massive own goal by the Royal PR brigade, who should have done a much better job of rapidly getting the facts, paying massive hush-money to the victims and constraining (strait-jacket + gag?) the DofE.

                          #30801
                          dwynnehughdwynnehugh
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                            @dwynnehugh
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                            ” … and constraining (strait-jacket + gag?) the DofE.”

                            Not so easy – me thinks!!

                            Just seen now that the driver / passenger (the one with the injured arm) in the Kia is very unhappy at the decision. Understandable but it happens each and every day.

                            The more you meet people the more you understand why Noah took animals instead of humans

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