Brexit now = CETA +/-?

[Ed P]

So, after Bob’s revelations  — hands up anyone who truly believes that our Establishment is capable of defining and crafting a technology solution to the Northern Island border issue. Preferably of course, one that will also give us full control of our border in order to stop non-Irish EU citizens from wandering across. ?

[The Duke]

I couldn’t trust them to put an omelette together. If anything this shows they should have more oversite.

Just hand the keys to Brussels.

[Dave Rice]

Having worked in the public sector (Post Office) and then done the same job as an outsourcer (CSC) I can absolutely say out sourcing is downright dangerous unless you have the balls of someone like BAE. They squeeze the pips out of outsourcers by leveraging the prestige of being their customer and knowing what they’re doing with contract negotiations and their core retained IT Dept being in control.

A potential outsourcer will take on someone like BAE as a loss leader and hope to make it back with off contract projects. Fat chance, they’ll get put out to tender and used as a weapon. Competitor X want 15% less than you (they’ll be after the prestige), perhaps they’ll do your contract at 15% less too? The revenue goes down (that was probably in the contract too) but the board still take their pound ton of flesh. They put together consolidation deals with others where the “synergy” savings go to the board and shareholders, they are always redundancies of staff.

Now just look at the total balls ups of Govt IT projects. As Ed has said many times, the devil is in the detail and Govt just doesn’t do that or give the Civil Service the chance to as some political need will emerge, even if it’s just changing the head honcho. Look at Gove in Education, they can’t resist tinkering to make a name for themselves. They’ll be off before the damage works it’s way through.

Now put that lot in charge of doing the biggest negotiations for a generation or three and it’s no surprise we’re in the mess we’re in and still have a divided country, probably more divided than it was. And at the top you have the same members of the “establishment” out for their own gains and who gives feck about the people that do the work.

[Ed P]

Dave Rice wrote:

Having worked in the public sector (Post Office) and then done the same job as an outsourcer (CSC) I can absolutely say out sourcing is downright dangerous unless you have the balls of someone like BAE.

+1 to all the above, but then just to compound matters and ensure failure you put some incompetent a-hole as Minister in Charge who then completely ties up the system by insisting on progress reports every day, and interminable sessions on explaining what the long words in the report mean. e.g. What is a database, interface etc. Or, I thought AI meant Artificial Insemination .. what EXACTLY is it? Then when he finds things too hard and things get way behind schedule, chops out essential bits. I’m thinking of you ‘Failing Grailing’, you would be a prime contender for the job!

Been there got the scars and lived through failure/overrun etc until my old company learned its lesson and started putting real ‘managers’ with both cojones and clout in charge. I see no-one in Parliament (any party) capable of doing the job without screwing it up.

[D-Dan]

As a former Civil Servant (HMRC) and now working in the private sector, to some extent, against HMRC, I’d saddened on a daily basis by how far HMRC has fallen. From a professional department that exercised integrity and thought, to a complete and utter clusterfV£k with no clue what they are doing, and all because people were put in charge with even less of a clue.

The quest to become the “most technologically, digitally advanced” tax authority in the world is proven wrong on a daily basis, as we have IT systems that are not fit for purpose in a department that is no longer fit for purpose, turned into a penalty collecting machine with an obscene amount of power to the detriment of the taxpaying public.

Roll on another 13 years and retirement.

Arch Linux, on a Ryzen 7 1800X, 32 GB, 5 (yes -5) HDs inc 5 SSDs, 4 RPi 3Bs + 1 RPi 4B - one as an NFS server with two more drives, PiHole (shut yours), Plex server, cloud server, and other random Pi stuff. Nice CoolerMaster case, 2 x NV GTX 1070 8GB, and a whopping 32" AOC 1440P monitor.

[Ed P]

This indicates a possible reason for the timing of the Brexit ConArtist’s announcement. . I hope the SFO and SEC investigate them to establish their innocence or otherwise.

link

[D-Dan]

So it seems that more than 1/3 of the Conservative MPs lack trust in TM. What chance if Labour do, actually, table a motion of no confidence?

Arch Linux, on a Ryzen 7 1800X, 32 GB, 5 (yes -5) HDs inc 5 SSDs, 4 RPi 3Bs + 1 RPi 4B - one as an NFS server with two more drives, PiHole (shut yours), Plex server, cloud server, and other random Pi stuff. Nice CoolerMaster case, 2 x NV GTX 1070 8GB, and a whopping 32" AOC 1440P monitor.

[Ed P]

D-Dan wrote:

So it seems that more than 1/3 of the Conservative MPs lack trust in TM. What chance if Labour do, actually, table a motion of no confidence?

Then job preservation comes into force. Those ComArtist Brexiteer who voted against May will shift position if they think it endangers their seat.

[Dave Rice]

Confidence in your boss is one thing. Confidence in the organisation you work in, and could bring about it’s downfall, is quite another.

I see the hypocrite Mogg is extremely flexible when it comes to accepting when a vote goes against you. He’s a local MP and they had members of one of the Conservative clubs on the local news. They aren’t happy with him either, but that won’t change his view will it? To here him calling for TM to go to the Queen you’d think he was Corbyn.

TM can’t get this past Parliament and won’t get it revised unless she changes a red line. Her only weapon is to let the clock tick until it’s her way or no deal. She’s already had her Government held in contempt of Parliament. How’s that for the “responsible” party?

And people wonder why the EU want an insurance clause?

[The Duke]

You couldn’t write this crap. The world already thought we mad after the referendum result. Now we are a laughing stock.

It’s embarrassing.

[Bob Williams]

One day we will get the government we deserve. Unfortunately it looks like a long wait.

I think May should go ASAP, she lacks the backbone and single minded purpose needed to put in the boot at Brussels. Not so much negotiating, as surrendering. Shots of her laughing it up with European leaders, tell us everything we need to know. Show some commitment, borrow a pair, woman! (Not from anyone in Westminster, they have all been confiscated.)

When the Thought Police arrive at your door, think -
I'm out.

[The Duke]

There was little negotiating to be done bob, it was a simple divorce settlement. We treated the procedure as a political exercise whereas the UE appoched it at a leagal seperation, where both parties had a prenup mostly figured out.

There is little to negotiate over. Ireland is the main issue, and that couldn’t of been forseen in the 80s.

If our lot didn’t take two years in-fighting, maybe (defo) it would of gone alot smoother.

All we had to do is agree to all the stipulated stuff, then sit around a table with all parties, Uk, Brussels, Ireland and NI and figure out what is best for each party and negotion somthing that didn’t piss any party off to much. While also making provisions for the departure. Like trade, customs, working visas for crutial staff to keep the nation running.

All we did was argue about how we wanted to leave, when in reality, we have little to no say in it.

If they wasn’t pissing about infighting and decideding which imaginery ways they wanted to leave, by now they would of realised what a mess leaving will be. Probably would of  pulled the plug in article 50 6 months ago. The pound would be up, and Xmas be a little bit cheaper for all. And we would have certainty back

[Bob Williams]

After today’s revelations, it is obvious that Brussels is just confused and astonished by the deep divisions in the UK parliament and especially by the continual stabs TMPM is receiving in the back, from her own Party and quite often some in her Cabinet.

How can we expect them to know how to deal correctly with us, when all this s**t is going down?

As you say, Steve, we are an embarrassment. Mother of Parliaments? Yer avvin a laff!

When the Thought Police arrive at your door, think -
I'm out.

[Dave Rice]

It’s undemocratic to have another vote but it’s OK for the Tories to run another leadership vote in a shorter timescale. If that isn’t hypocrisy I don’t know what is. The Moglodyte doesn’t seem to get it either. It’s only undemocratic if it goes against your own view.

I wouldn’t be surprised if TM starts talking up another referendum to scare the children of the right. Her Deal vs Remain, no-one could present No Deal as a credible option. The fact that Farage is stirring into motion on exactly that premise tells you quite a bit.

[The Duke]

It may be 26mins long but trust me its worth it.

What joining the WTO actually mean, and how it will effect you, your kids, and theirs and maybe theire too. Also for those that bang on about soveranty, we are throwing away the soveranty we currently have, in favor of zero soferenty, on the most important issues of the uk.

This is project reality. Send this to all your feinds and get them to forward it to their local MP, and so forth. The guy in thd video is well regarded.

[Ed P]

Thanks well worth it. A great shame it isn’t possible to cram the video up the rectums of Mogg, Leadsom and Bojo so that they start speaking sense!

[The VFM Addict]

Backstop Threatens UK’s AAA Credit Rating

Ratings agency DBRS has warned that the UK’s AAA rating could be at risk from a Brexit deal that separates Northern Ireland from the rest of the UK. The ratings agency confirmed its rating for the UK at AAA with a ‘Stable Trend’, but noted that “significant uncertainty remains over different regulatory and customs regimes between Northern Ireland and the mainland, and how this might impact the UK” and warns that the “longer-term constitutional integrity of the UK is important to [the UK’s] AAA sovereign rating.”

Interestingly, the agency is less concerned about the impact of no deal on the UK’s rating, saying that it “acknowledges some degree of event risk associated with such a scenario, but it expects a broadly appropriate and timely policy response from the UK and the EU to any resulting economic or financial turmoil”.

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[Dave Rice]

Moody’s, S&P and Fitch Ratings control approximately 95% of the credit ratings business, all three have our outlook as negative.

As for the current shower in Westminster doing anything in a timely or appropriate fashion that really is Unicorn territory ?

[Wheels-Of-Fire]

I see Smyths have rainbow coloured unicorns on sale for a very reasonable price. It certainly aint £39 billion ???

[The Duke]

I’m sure they are not real unicorns. Sorry to burst your bubble.

#project reality ?

Though cheers as my girl would like one for Xmas ?

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