Brexit now = CETA +/-?

[Wheels-Of-Fire]

It had better be less than 12 months time. March the 30th is one day before my birthday and I am expecting a firm decision before then as a present ?

[Dave Rice]

Thatcher: “live within your means”

It was during her era that consumer credit was deregulated!

[Wheels-Of-Fire]

Yep. If you wanted to be a prat you could !

Some people need protecting from themselves though so I fully support the restrictions put on high price lenders that saw Wonga go bust.

Governments should know better though.

[The Duke]

Was it not wonga that was part owned by The church?

[Dave Rice]

That rang a bell. Just looked it up and their pension fund had a stake in the venture capital firm behind Wonga (that firm also invested in Spotify and Facebook among many others).

[Wheels-Of-Fire]

https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKBN1HY2WS

Credit ratings are also dodgy. What is it with Moody’s that makes them drop our credit rating at the drop of a hat ? Almost no one follows suit so stuff em ?

[Dave Rice]

Not exactly the drop of a hat is it? We have an uncertain future ahead of us, that makes us more of a risk.

[Ed P]

A Corporate Treasurer of a very large multinational once made a very Zen-like statement to me. He said ‘There ain’t no such thing as money just confidence in it. Without confidence you don’t have anything worth shite!

[Wheels-Of-Fire]

Very zen Ed. I like it ?

[Bob Williams]

May be Zen, but also damned true.

Who is going to write the book in 20/30/40/50 years: “What happened to Britain?”

A lot of the population need to remove the blinkers and take a good hard look at the Real World. (Most of them work in Westminster.)

When the Thought Police arrive at your door, think -
I'm out.

[Wheels-Of-Fire]

Bob. I want you to get out of the bubble where you are. Come and see me in Wembley for just one day.

[The Duke]

Wembley is bad doesn’t meant the rest of the nation is. A few suburbs of a few cities.

I lived in a city, didn’t like it much, (noting to do with immegration, it was crime and I’d just started a family), so I moved to an area that suited me better. Low crime, (never lock the doors or car. (though the car is a roll over from living in a city, I’d rather they opened the door than smashed a window), violence low, and had an outdoor lifestyle which I prefer.

So if Wembley is so bad, move somewhere that suits your personality better. I never get it when people moan about a small set of issues that can easily be solved.

I went wembely in 1992. Never liked the ground. Coach in and coach, so never seen the place. But was amazed at the shops under the stands. Old grounds up north wasn’t like that then, not to the extent. Also first ground I’d been that had a 400m around it. And from that day hated the set up (poor WH fans).

Never got to new WB, but form what I’ve heard it’s worse than thd last one. Which doesn’t bold well for me, given I never took to it).

[Wheels-Of-Fire]

It is comming to you too. I hope you live to see it.

[Ed P]

I used to work in a contractors office right next to the old Conference Centre (where they hold the snooker). back in the 70s. I thought it was a crap area then, and the town area was not much better. Nothing to do with the ethnic mix, it just seemed a sterile soulless place with really bad restaurants, coupled with a nasty reverse commute into London.

[The Duke]

@grahamdearsley what’s coming to us?

We need another Chinese family. The ones that had the local chippy moved out about 5 years ago, and a Welsh girl took it over, so I’d like either a Chinese or Indian family in my village.

Actually that’s how we could solve this. We could get all the village la and towns to put notices up that lack any ethics. The all the ones in these places, all together, and not integrated, with little to no work, can all start eateries where there is non. Then as they will be ‘alone’ they will have to mix in.

By golly, I’ve got it.

[Wheels-Of-Fire]

They dont integrate silly. You will just get a ghetto on your doorstep. I hope it happens to you soon. You cant know what its like until it does.

[The Duke]

If I thought something was bad, I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy. Seems a very bitter mindset to have. Not one I’m familiar with.

However if many turned up, I’m sure we’d get competing food outlets and that can ultimalty only be good for the consumer, and it will be more job creation.

All my kids (older ones) all had their first jobs 14-18 (and some older in uni breaks etc) at an Indian place, in Llandudno, so anything that brings in jobs for the young is excellent.

 

All joking aside, I have family back home (old Swan) in the city, there is loads of imagints, form many places. No one or very few, have issues with them. I think its doent to the type of propel the locals are. Also Liverpool, even with its imagints vote very much to stay. Ad it sees the benifit trh imagrants are and the benifits of being nart of Europe and mainly the benifits of someone keeping an eye on Westminster.

Liverpool is more a city that looks forward out to sea, than backwards towards the land.

[Bob Williams]

Wheels-Of-Fire wrote:

Bob. I want you to get out of the bubble where you are. Come and see me in Wembley for just one day.

Not bloomin’ likely Graham! I hate cities, even towns. I am born & bred country village, first Nottinghamshire, now a lovely Lincolnshire village. As Steve says, what is to stop you moving? Even to the outskirts of London? I visit mates in Barnet, High Barnet is lovely. I stay in North Finchley near to Woodside Tube and travel down to wherever. Wife has relatives in Dulwich, we visit once a year for two nights and that is quite enough Mad City for me, although I like the Toby Carvery in nearby Beckenham, which is where we stay: lovely meals, well soundproofed and comfy rooms.My dislike of city and town is based upon one thing: too many people.

I am in no bubble, I have Iraqi, Caribbean, Sikh, Chinese and other culture friends. I spent a lot of time as a kid down at the Marquee and Crawddady clubs, to see the original Stones and other original Blues bands, off the back of my Ducati 250. I sailed twice around the world as a Junior Deckhand, starting from Hull and porting at the old West India Dock for cargoes to pick up and drop off around the world. I was Army for 12 years and served in Aden, Borneo, Ireland during the worst of the Troubles, and Germany, where I had my first missus and two kids, now long behind me. When I realised that the pit village that I came back to was not what it was after the Strike, pit closure, another relationship (30 years next year!) and living across from rioting DSS druggies and burglars, I moved. Try it. And if it does “come to me”, whatever it is, it will not settle. Probably 99% of the people you are talking about, settle in the Inner Cities and towns. The ones who move hereabouts are intelligent, tolerant people. Any others are soon off to the nearest Urban area that has “their” people.

One of my best mates was born in Trinidad and I grew up with him: at first the only black guy in the village, turned into an accepted Local Lad, but that’s real village life. He was one of a gang of us 9 lads who still stick together (OK, down to 7 now) and we looked after him: others in the village still look after him.

I met people all over the planet and one conclusion I came to, is that ordinary families are all wanting one thing: to feed, clothe, educate and care for their family in their own way. Might not be your way, might not be mine, but it’s theirs.

Why not get out of your bubble, Graham? There is life outside of The Big Smoke.

When the Thought Police arrive at your door, think -
I'm out.

[JayCeeDee]

…..off the back of my Ducati 250.

I had one of those – a pre-desmo Daytona. Ally engine, overhead cams, 5-speed box, ally rims…..the list went on. With all your euro travels, was yours the Diana??

[Ed P]

Taking the initiative works wonders. If you have neighbours who do not speak to you, try speaking to them first. (This unwillingness to speak first is why South-eastern people have the reputation of being ‘cold’)

I did just that with an old ‘grandfather’ Pakistani  near neighbour who I saw most days walking from his house to the mosque and back. A simple ‘Salaam alaikum’ followed by ‘Hello’ for a couple of weeks soon had him trying to engage in some sort of English conversation.

Ghettos form when people cannot communicate, I welcomed the relatively recent Government initiatives to force new arrivals to learn English, as otherwise it will be twenty years before their kids can really start the integration process.

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