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August 19, 2018 at 4:28 pm #24854
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2017/03/07/how-left-or-right-wing-are-uks-newspapers/
You may like the link above Duke.
August 19, 2018 at 6:26 pm #24858I hate the sun for other reason..
Though the new bread of leftist social worriers will moan about anything they don’t agree with, and call it an outrage. But try and tell them to shut up, and you get called all kinds.
I neither left nor right, I’m a massive hypocrit, I’ll agree with the left on one topic, but may also agree with the right on a totally different topic. However the two totally different issue, may actually completely contradict each other.
However in like a lot of people ill admit to being a hypocrit. I can’t see how anyone can be either left or right, unless brainwashed. I just take each issue on merit, try and look up facts, them you my own moral compass to come to a decision. However this is how you figure out your (Im) a compleat hypocrit.
Spelt hypocrit wrong every time, but I’m suffering the worst hangover ever, so be nice. As the years go by I just can’t hack it. Though it was a long one last night 3pm, ending at 10am! Far too old for this! Two hours sleep, then home. Now just dying.
August 19, 2018 at 6:36 pm #24859VHM You lost me when you cited the f-+king sun. LMFAO
It may have lost you Duke but it hasn’t lost Robbie Gibb, No10’s Director of Communications. He is not contesting the finding and reports it in his Twitter account.
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August 19, 2018 at 7:43 pm #24867They are all cnuts, feeding of the honest people.
Brexit I don’t know about.
Politicians I do, a bit, when they want your support, can’t do enough. After that, F**K you.
August 19, 2018 at 7:58 pm #24868The changes brought about in this country after the smoke clears from whatever form our future will take, will become more and more inescapable.
Political parties will never be the same: how the electorate votes will change, existing Polls and voting “expert” opinion will be proved incorrect. I fully expect a period of extreme uncertainty amongst the British people. That could bring about Civil Unrest. We have been lied to and treated with condescension by both sides and by the political parties. MP’s on the whole, are interested in maintaining their seats in the House and pay only lip service to the wishes of their constituents.
I heard this morning that the finest of all Conservative MP’s, Sir Peter Tapsell, died at 88. This man was my MP here in Louth & Horncastle and he was a real independent voice, never afraid to speak against his own Party, in or out of government, always available and approachable at Constituency Offices in both towns, even in his 80’s. He spoke against the 2 Gulf Wars, the Afghan adventures and the Maastricht Treaty, amongst many other issues. There is not another UK politician today, from any party, with half his integrity, honour and real constituency service.
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I'm out.August 19, 2018 at 11:43 pm #24874It didn’t lose me you did. I stopped reading it shit you got out of the Scum. I would wipe my arse the the shite.
No red top tbh, but The Scum has a very special place I’m my hate hole. POS rag.
If the coms sec is getting his “figure on the pules info” from the Scum newspaper we are all fucked. Did she give him the job cos he could do twitter.
Bob, you best hope the Scum doesnt get to write his eulogy. He sounds right up there street to lie about.
August 20, 2018 at 8:00 am #24889Quite honestly Steve I’d place ALL the newspapers in the MurkyDog Group in the same dubious position of honesty. We should never allow foreign scumbags to own our communications media, as they dissemble and push out their own agenda, or that of a foreign power.
August 20, 2018 at 11:21 am #24892Steve all Forest fans who were at Hillsborough remember what the Sun did and hate the rag just as much as Liverpool supporters. I was not there myself, but lots of mates and family were. It is sometimes forgotten that there was another team and another set of supporters at that match. I was told that the Forest fans towards the front of their stand, could see what was happening. Some wanted to get across and help, but the Police stopped them. It is also not recorded that one group of Forest lads ripped up an advert hoarding and tried to use it as a stretcher. They were arrested, but never charged.
Football rivalry is one thing, but that was just sheer, dangerous incompetence by the police, followed by filthy, lying reporting.
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I'm out.August 21, 2018 at 7:02 am #24944Bob, according to the latest NHS reports if we have a hard Brexit the electorate will not be the same either. There is a real risk of increased deaths with a hard Brexit.
August 21, 2018 at 10:34 am #24949And plague and pestilence and the comming of the three horse men.
August 21, 2018 at 10:44 am #24952Or maybe not…
According to a report in the Times it looks like the most likely outcome of a no deal is that in the absence of any new directives people will just keep following the old rules even if they are no longer valid. What else can they do ?
August 21, 2018 at 11:23 am #24958WoF if that’s the case, why are we bother. We can just carry on. And ignore customs, tariffs and all trh logistics that instils.
We will literally following our own meem. Keep calm and carry on. Someone should inform the PM it’s a meem, it’s not ment to be taken literally.
Seen a boy of sky news, yesterday, not my usual place to get it, and they had a Farmer on, brexitier what was just, ‘so what about concequences’ was his attitude.
But let slip he doesn’t deal with trade with EU, but more US, and added his subsidy, he won’t miss it as he passes down the chain, as he is self sufficient. He said non ends up in his pocket.
i think he missed the point that, passing down the chain means he uses it to pay suppliers, wages, etc… So will he be self sufficient once he loses his subsidy.
As if his answer was, my pocket will miss it, but I don’t mind that sacrifice. For many years my farms has been self sufficient so the subsidy hasn’t been needed. Then I would of sided with his point.
I’d also love to know what does taking sovranty back mean. Did we ever lose it, if we did, do we need it. What do we gain or lose form either having or not.
It seems we all want it back, but few actually know what it is we no longer have.
Off the hospital today, tell we are defo home.
August 21, 2018 at 11:41 am #24959No Duke we follow the existing rules until someone says different. Should see a raft of new directives toot sweet ?
August 21, 2018 at 11:54 am #24960Come to think of it, following the last order you received is good practice in general.
August 21, 2018 at 11:56 am #24961@Wheels, you are assuming that the EU will blink before we do.
Unfortunately we are entering the dangerous phase of negotiation where people throw logic out of the window and just say ‘sod you’. I have certainly seen that happening during Corporate negotiations.
August 21, 2018 at 1:33 pm #24964@Wheels, you are assuming that the EU will blink before we do. Unfortunately we are entering the dangerous phase of negotiation where people throw logic out of the window and just say ‘sod you’. I have certainly seen that happening during Corporate negotiations.
If only that were true. I’d love it if May said ‘sod you’ to the EU. She’s done this all the wrong way round. In negotiation you go in hard and then soften if need be. You don’t go in soft and then try to harden up. It never works that way. So now the only hard option is the nuclear one – a full sod off and no divorce payment. Besides if its a no deal then the £39B would ease the short term turbulence for us and worsen it for the EU, especially Germans who are already sick to death of carrying the heavy lift financial burden for the EU. A no deal and the fall of Merkel I suspect would be the death of the political side of the EU and it might get back to being what the common market was supposed to be a trading agreement not a political superstate. I have no problem with that and may even vote yes to it.
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August 21, 2018 at 5:03 pm #2497039b would be like pissing in a lake.
August 21, 2018 at 5:49 pm #24975Wof, what happened to the FOURTH Horseman?
“White, Red, Black and Pale horses.” Well, lots of Arab nations have white, red and black flags.
Just saying…
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I'm out.August 21, 2018 at 6:00 pm #24980August 21, 2018 at 6:18 pm #24983Good spot Nolan. Johnny Cash became more creative as he got older, I think, a far more intelligent writer and performer than most people realised, not just a Country singer in the end.
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