[Ed P]

Boris wrote:

Ed P wrote:

Wales goes into prohibition but people are allowed to cross from Wales into England! The publicans of the ‘Cross Keys’ and ‘Live and Let Live’ pubs in Tutshill must be stocking up with scotch eggs and rubbing their hands in glee as Monmouthshire drinkers look for solace by walking into England.

The Cross Keys closed some 10+ ? years back – it is now residential accommodation, and The Live & Let Live opposite Mopla Road is now a cafe/bar called Toast http://www.toast-tutshill.co.uk/ – not a drinkers place “Serving craft beers, ciders & wine together with simple honest food.”

Pub closures are always a great shame, but from memory that leaves many Gloucestershire  miles without a pub! :negative:

[Boris]

Yep – The Globe at Alvington, The George at St Briavels, the Rising Sun at Woolaston Common are all a good 5 mile walk from Chepstow

Never trust an atom - they make up everything !

[Dave Rice]

Cases are dropping rapidly here, hope we’ll be in T2 soon as I could really do with an evening out in different 4 walls. A meal and a pint or two to go with it would be splendid.

[Ed P]

English forumites may be able to log into a whole lot of additional info (assuming your county authority allows). Try a search on the terms (your) local authority+public health+covid+weekly+dashboard. I have no idea if this will work in the devolved nations. Wales in particular seems to hate giving the power of information to the people. They were obviously well trained by Mushroom Matt!

[edit] btw my local authority uses a nettify.app link for some unknown reason!

[JayCeeDee]

I’ve had our local ( Thanet ) on my Covid browser page for the last month,  maybe more. :good:

They’ve done it by putting a cartoon virus ‘globe’ button on their main page and when you click it a dashboard – similar to a dialogue box, appears. Quite slick really.

[Boris]

The true Christmas spirit ?

Never trust an atom - they make up everything !

[Ed P]

It looks as though the ‘Spanish’ Covid (Covid-19G) that the teens&twenties brought back from their Spanish holidays is not only more infectious it also appears that it can reinfect those who had the earlier variety of Covid.

Lots of pretty charts showing the evolution of the virus are given here.

[Ed P]

I just read this Beeb report on BAME reluctance to accept a Covid vaccination due to online media reports. Unfortunately I can say that this is very likely all too  true.

My window cleaner was sent a video purporting to have come from a reputable Belgium scientist who appeared to be in his mid 50s, in which the supposed scientist in the video seriously stated that all the vaccines had nano particles in them that reacted with 5G signals and immediately resulted in horrible cancers. I laughed and said that he had been fooled and that he was the recipient of malign crap deliberately sent to harm him. He objected and said the man in the video was a reputable scientist and he had checked out his name. I told him (slight stretch) that I was a scientist and it was all a viscous hoax with not even a bit of truth in it.

I can only think that some people are deliberately targetting BAMEs in a malign attempt at an ethnic purge via Covid. :scratch:

[Dave Rice]

I can’t believe just how much of it is on Facebook. I always call them out and TBF the posts disappear fairly rapidly when FB catches up. But by then dozens have got involved. People’s willingness to believe conspiracy crap is unbelievable and I always provide a link to a debunk site, which are really easy to find with a simple search. Then you get smarty pants people like Julia Brewer-Hartley who must know they are spreading half truths yet do so anyway.

But it’s all amateurish compared to the gigantic grift that Trump has carefully planned and executed. He must have passed $200m by now and all in a fund he can, quite legally, spend on anything and not the legal fees they purport to be for.

[Boris]

Never trust an atom - they make up everything !

[PlaneMan]

That’s genius, nice find.

[JayCeeDee]

Excellent – the wife especially liked the virus coming down on us like snow!!

[Ed P]

Boris is a gutless lying toerag.

Anyone who has read the links in my posts will know that the Covid GV mutation emerged in the UK in September  as the predominant UK strain. The fact that none of the lock-downs has succeeded in curtailing the spread in Kent, and that infection rates were increasing in these areas has also been known for at least a month.

Gutless Bojo could have avoided his ‘Gimp who stole Christmas’ act by a full lock down for three weeks at the start of December. Instead he procrastinated and then Blaired the truth by implying that the necessary data has only emerged in the last few days. Had he also mandated the compulsory wearing of face-masks when outside the home we might even have avoided this mess and unnecessary early deaths.

Now many of us will have a lonely Christmas 😥 and too much leftover turkey. I think a trip to the font of Ben Bracken to drown my sorrows  is required! 😥

[PlaneMan]

Wales is also in tier 4 from midnight.

It’s a right pain in the arse but I can (under the Welsh rules) at least go and see my mum and her fella as I’m single and they are my support ‘bubble’ . No one else has been in their house for many months and they are staying withing the property boundaries as of now.

Also Christmas can still happen but on a much reduced scale.

I do feel for those that planned for the rules as they were, only to have that all ruined.

What really hurts me and mum is it’s almost a year since we saw my brother and his kids. That’s a long time when they are both still young enough to want to do things with you and not want to sit in a bedroom watching Netflix/YouTube/ whatever.  🙁 😥

[Dave Rice]

Tier 3 doesn’t look so bad now. However we are an island in a Tier 2 region which is ridiculous. Bristol has the hospitals, we have the shopping mall, so never mind the exchange of workers each morning there’s a massive movement of people every day. There’s s strip of South Wales that a dormitory area for greater Bristol too. We should all be in the same Tier.

Lots of pubs and restaurants in the newly released Tier 2 areas haven’t reopened. My mate is the manager at the Legion and he said they cannot plan properly as the rules change at the drop of a hat. They’re not going to risk buying a lot of beer only to have to chuck it down the drain in 2 weeks time, never mind working out how to deal with the meal rules. They have written off this year and probably the first quarter of next.

A bit more light relief  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPDkCOJO3pc

[JayCeeDee]

I felt that previously we were ticking along reasonably in tier 3, albeit with numbers on the increase. Thanet was third at that time in Kent, Sussex and Surrey local authorities, but is now 12th and holding numbers steady, but we will now go into tier 4 – we’re effectively stuffed back in lockdown and can’t, it seems even mix with other tier 4’s. What a total bollox-up of the whole situation. It seems to be that Boris is trying to prevent a Post-Thanksgiving-like disaster, that is descending on the States at the moment.

I’ve got a friend who’s 83 and is booked in for the jab on Wednesday next week. Let’s hope we follow soon, because that is going to be our main line of defence in the coming days.

[Ed P]

Sorry to say this, but if you believe the speculation in The Guardian, Tier 4 restrictions are likely to be with us for months. 😥

Imo our broken Track and Don’t Trace system is going about this all wrong. If you study the MSOA data at a detailed level, you can find areas that have very little commuting/interaction with their neighbours but despite this, they have rapidly moved into the purple of the highest infection rates. Coleford in Gloucestershire is one such area. In my mind this is indicative of just a few super-spreaders moving into the area and infecting everyone. (This seems to coincide with a time-line of students returning from college)

Although it is too late to stop this, we should be blitzing these areas with Track&Trace people backtracking to identify the super-spreaders and see if they have common attributes that can be identified. If they can, then we should be giving the highest priority to vaccinating such individuals (vaccinate or face internment!).

[Boris]

Being a FoD local, I know that the Coleford spike is in a care home there (my cousin lives next to it). Initially 40-ish cases, it was apparently brought in by one of the staff, even though they are tested at least weekly.

Never trust an atom - they make up everything !

[Ed P]

Thanks Boris, as a lapsed Freeminer (To my father’s irritation, I never applied for the year and a day ‘gale’ right) I know the area well but haven’t lived there for over fifty years.

For the reasons you state it does not really make my point, even though how one person infected 40+ in a week or so needs investigating. Perhaps other similar cases such as the relatively isolated village of Pebworth in Worcestershire that went from nothing to 69 cases in a week would be a better example for detailed back-tracking.

[The Duke]

Sadly I’m in tier 4, and can’t see me working till Easter. And if we don’t open by then, the business is over. I’m over it now, come to terms with it. 2nd of April is first bank hol, if we miss it we are finished .

 

Cheers mate drakeford 👍

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