Coronavirus, Corona Virus, Covid-19
Coronavirus – 2019-nCoV
Man Made yes or no?
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- Dont be silly Lee
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March 9, 2020 at 7:32 am #41545
The US Center for Disease Control have published guidance for those deemed to be at risk. i.e. Older adults, and people who have serious chronic medical conditions like:Heart disease, Diabetes or Lung disease.
The CDC advice can be found here.
As there is no official UK advice on this, one can only assume the Government would rather this problem sector is out of sight out of mind! link
March 9, 2020 at 11:49 am #41547Just as the disease is fast moving, the scientific name is also fast moving and it is now called:
SARS-CoV-2
Apparently children are not the usual bag of bugs for Cov-2.
“Still, as the Joint Mission report noted, given the data available, it is not possible to determine the extent of infection among children and what role that plays in driving the spread of disease and the epidemic overall. “Of note,” the report went on, “people interviewed by the Joint Mission Team could not recall episodes in which transmission occurred from a child to an adult. — source Ars Technica”
March 9, 2020 at 4:22 pm #41555More bad news – it looks like drowning your sorrows in alcohol if you catch Cov-2 could be a very bad idea. The Chinese reported cases of liver failure that were caused by the virus. Ain’t life a bitch!
March 9, 2020 at 6:32 pm #41557If true that children’s immune systems are killing this thing, I hope several medical organisations have taken note and are investigating. That’s hope for the next generation anyway.
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I'm out.March 10, 2020 at 6:55 am #41558Bob, it may be that children’s immune systems do not generate a runaway immune response, so it just looks like their usual runny noses. I do however agree that the mortality versus age needs investigation. I’m of the opinion based (not on a lot of evidence) that if we could plot zinc deficiency with age against CoV-2 mortality there would be a close correlation.
The more research I do on zinc the more convinced I am of its importance. I think one day we may discover that zinc and magnesium deficiencies are the biggest killers of the modern age,
Just a little snippet on zinc, people with zinc deficiencies are more likely to develop GERD.
March 10, 2020 at 12:50 pm #41559I was watching a BBC report on the Italian lock-down and it suddenly struck me how frequently Churches play a leading role in initiating major Cov-2 outbreaks. That was certainly the case for both Korea and Singapore. Maybe the Italians and Spanish should consider how great a role has been played by the Communion Cup.
Look out Eire!
March 10, 2020 at 2:37 pm #41560Ed, I thought that was obvious. They get together in a huddle, with or without the red stuff, and pass the virus around. Almost certainly the same thing in Iran. Their numbers still confuse me, but at least they are admitting to 237 deaths so far. Is Italy’s confirm to death ratio so high due to under reporting (and testing), or is it the age profile. If the latter, maybe the same pattern in Iran. A big loss of religious zealots could be good for Italy, but especially WOULD be especially good for Iran.
Changing subject entirely now. My contactless card arrived to day for shopping if/when things get bad here. I believe I need to keep this well away from ” info searching” devices, some sort of field protection pocket. Information please somebody.
Les.
March 10, 2020 at 2:56 pm #41561Les, an RFID sleeve or wallet would do the job, or wrap it in tin foil (and make a hat while you’re at it).😋
March 10, 2020 at 5:19 pm #41562I bought a card wallet with RFID blocking purely because my old one wore out and I thought I might as well. If you don’t have one get two enabled cards, they interfere with each other something rotten. The more cards the more the interference.
The one I bought will be 5 years old soon and still looks like new. It cost a bit more but I bought it for the now proven longevity rather than the RFID blocking.
March 10, 2020 at 6:51 pm #41563I bought this in 2018 Les:
A BOGOF purchase, so missus has one too. I keep my 3 bank cards in the rear, shielded pocket and ID such as driving licence and library card in the front, with a Fiver or two. On the rare occasion I need to travel by bus, I stick my Bus Pass in there too. That is, I might, if I could find it. 😫 I have been informing various organisations of our move by email and snail mail, took the bus pass numbers yesterday and put it down somewhere in this spare room/computer room, which is full of boxes, packed and waiting to be packed. This room is a nightmare.
It’s a neat little wallet and is good for most days when all I need is basic ID. I have another large RFID wallet which contains lots of other cards that get little use, mostly online. The small one is great and you cannot tell it’s in my pocket, it shows no sign that it’s there.
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I'm out.March 10, 2020 at 7:44 pm #41565Battling Coronavirus in Rome in 2017 or earlier!
Now this is what you call prescient, a bit like the D-Day crossword compiler for the Daily Telegraph. (if you are not familiar with that tale look it up, it makes quite a story.)
March 10, 2020 at 7:45 pm #41566Bob, that looks smaller than most I looked at, but no measurements given, particularly thickness.
I still use a big leather wallet, so just want something small for the card and nowt else. I am thinking Planeman’s suggestion of kitchen foil is the way to go. I have a card wallet from the bank that just carries this card and a few store “discount” cards, though I think ONLY the Coop card actually does anything of use. I think the card will go in that with foil either side of it if I jettison a couple of the store cards. In fact I will pop in the bank tomorrow, on the off chance they have an RFID protected one.
So far only about 20 tests carried out over here, with no infections confirmed. It won’t be long! Tomorrow I will see if i can get some more goggles for when I use the brush cutter. The washable sort which I can get my glasses underneath. should be better than M/cycle goggles to wash regularly.
Thanks all, Les.
March 10, 2020 at 8:27 pm #41567I like reading about history as there are many different lessons/analogies hidden away in the tales, even if they are always written by the winners.
Today I came across this recounting of the 1918 Flu that killed millions of young people. What really drew my attention was the story told by Figure 1 in this pdf. Philadelphia did nothing to prevent large gatherings of people until too late and had a death rate of 250/100000, while St Louis banned public gatherings as soon as they saw the first evidence of flu, their death rate was always below 70/100000.
I could not help a mental comparison with our own Government of fools. They obviously put the economy above public health. Luckily however, the ones most affected can make their own decision and do their own St Louis, and leave the Cheltenham Gold Cup etc to those who most deserve the consequences!
March 10, 2020 at 10:26 pm #41568March 11, 2020 at 7:13 am #41569At long last someone has told Mushroom Matt that his policy of lies and concealment is not helping matters. The UK Government has now released a little information (still not enough) on where the CoV-2 cases are happening.
Unfortunately as it stands, the information is not very helpful when it comes to rational decision making. Sky TV have put the same data into a cases/head of population basis.
If you can figure your way around its carp interface, this shows that the places with the greatest density of disease are those with the highest disposable income (foreign holidays?). I’ll bet the odd-ball figures for the Shetlands are mostly oil workers.
However I would imagine that the Nottingham numbers (lowest in England) may in future be impacted by the Notts Forest owner’s illness.
March 11, 2020 at 10:33 am #41570Again the Government puts money above health, and they obviously want to ensure that they spread the virus as quickly as possible to get a big but short economic hit.
“I work in parliament and developed the same symptoms as Nadine Dorries MP on the same day. I’ve had a dry cough, chest pain and fever for four days.
NHS 111 services triaged me away from Coronovirus on Friday. I could not be tested because I hadn’t been in close contact to a previously confirmed case.”
The Government is totally out of its depth in its p&p for CoV-2. They may as well say, never travel on the tube or in crowded places. If you pick up CoV-2 from an unknown source we will not test or treat you until you finally collapse in extremis and call the emergency services.
One can only hope that the Cabinet and its Advisors gets the virus first, maybe that would bring a more rational approach.
March 11, 2020 at 12:16 pm #41571A grandson’s birthday party has just been cancelled because of information my Number One son just received from a surgical friend. Apparently the surgical friend was called into a staff meeting and told to cancel all his outside meetings whether social or otherwise. Either things are getting a tad warm in these parts or the hospital is taking steps to avoid their staff going sick.
Draw your own conclusions, but maybe our Government of Fools were spooked by the virus hitting close to home, and have started to trigger actions. Hopefully those will now include new advice to wear masks in order to reduce the onward spread of any infections. (N95 masks now appear to be available on Amazon).
March 11, 2020 at 5:31 pm #41575RFID protection. Just ordered something very similar to the ones linked to by JAYCEEDEE, thanks. I called in at the Bank to see if they had anything, but nothing. You used to get simple credit card holder, cheque book holders and all manner of stuff, but today, NOTHING.
Virus protection. I visited the dentists today. A notice outside saying you may be turned away if any signs of infection (coughs etc.) and an instruction to apply their sanitiser gel located adjacent to the door, before entry. That is the first indication of any sort yet seen over here. No reported infections yet, but soon no doubt.
Les.
March 11, 2020 at 7:23 pm #41578Les, I suspect that you will only see a handful of cases on the IoM, unlike those who live in the upmarket areas of London and the Home Counties. (I wonder why Hertfordshire is so high?)
March 11, 2020 at 7:44 pm #41580However I would imagine that the Nottingham numbers (lowest in England) may in future be impacted by the Notts Forest owner’s illness.
Ed it’s NOTTINGHAM Forest, NOTTS is only applied to Notts County, which used to be the world’s oldest football League club, until they fell into the National League. Now that title belongs to Forest. (1865) The difference is that County always played like an old club….
Mr Marinakis was with players and staff before he was diagnosed with Covid. Earlier today the squads, all youth and female squad, were tested. All negative.
That’s what I call Good News!😋
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