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I favour incompetence theory over conspiracy theory every time.
That said, to me there is growing evidence that HMG might have concluded that ultimately this virus cannot be contained therefore far better to let it run its course as quickly as possible and hence take a short sharp hit to GDP rather than a slower protected one.
There are no HMG plans to start to restrict large congregations of people. No plans to close schools leaving open not merely the possibility of the virus spreading in children but, especially in respect of primary schools, huge contagion opportunities during the long parents chats at the school gates at going home time.
I see nothing in HMG’s plans that is convincing that HMG is wholeheartedly seeking to prevent onward transmission. Their position on masks is totally inconsistent with such claimed strategy.
All of us here and all medical authorities concur that masks at the very least reduce the chances of the infected infecting others. It this is so then the logical containment strategy is to make mask wearing compulsory. Indeed, China is of the opinion that compulsory mask wearing which was introduced before the virus had a stranglehold on cities other than Wuhan, where it had exploded before masks became compulsory, has played major part in ensuring spread was less outside Wuhan.
The basic paper masks are not of a kind that hospital staff will wear. They need better masks. Therefore making paper masks compulsory in the community does not jeopardise necessary medical supplies. Paper masks are so easy to produce we could be producing millions a day in the UK within a week if HMG had the will to do so.
I say again the no masks message is so totally inconsistent with HMG’s declared commitment to containment and stopping the infected infecting others that the current no masks message must surely raise doubts about the depth of that commitment to robust containment.
Note – As Covid-19 related matters have now been inconveniently split by the initiation of the Masks thread I am posting the above in both the Mask thread and the main Coronavirus – Covid-19 thread.
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During the Covid-19 Epidemic I will be wearing a mask and goggles while posting so that if I become infected I won't spread it to you.
You are right re the paper masks. As for the vented masks the purpose of the vent is to allow one’s vapour laden exhaled breath to be despatched out of the mask such that the mask doesn’t become slowly drenched.
If one is going for a vented mask then ignore the ones rated FFP1 they only protect against large particles. FFP2 and FFP3 do appear capable in studies of reducing the risk of virus being inhaled; although they are not a cast iron guarantee. Personally I’m happy to take a hit in my wallet for any edge I can get. Although to be honest I bought most of mine weeks ago once it became obvious to me where this was going and hence before the profiteering went to after burners and sky rocketed the prices. I did advise in the Coronavirus thread others to do the same at that time.
I’ve said it before and I suspect I’ll say it again before this is all over; wearing a mask without also wearing goggles is a strategy that has something of the Maginot Line about it. That is to say a good defence in the south but door wide open to the north (one’s eyes). Goggles haven’t gone up in price. You can get them anywhere in most hardware outlets less than £2 and they will fit over spectacles.
AFAIK Selco stocks of masks are still holding up so if you want FFP2 or FFP3 rated masks I’d try them. And they have not pumped their prices up either.
I truly think that as usual men will be slower to act than women and will be late adopters of masks and goggles for fear of looking silly. It is not uncommon for men to leave it too late in medical matters for such reasons. That’s why prostate cancer kills more than it should. Act early and the chances of straying around are far, far better.
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Basically because Singapore has relatively few of them. The Population is heavily middle aged loaded. See here and click the Expand Statistic button.
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Singapore has by far the best Covid-19 Dashboard around. You can look at each individual case in detail including Age, Sex, Nationality and Places visited. It seems only 4 of all their cases have been over 70. If you want to explore the Dashboard is here but can at times be slow loading. Do wait though it is well worth the wait.
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Ed, can’t say I didn’t half seriously consider the catch it early strategy. Were I alone I might just have opted for it. But with my other half being reliant on me she would have been up the river without a paddle while I was would have been playing Emo quite possibly for a time on ECMO.
At 80% coverage one is without extensive precautions highly likely to catch it, If we do at our age its close to a coin toss whether one goes critical and if so a about half again that one ends up as involuntary charcoal That is one cascade of possibilities I’d rather not play Russian roulette with. At least in RR if you get unlucky you never know about it. Viral pneumonia is not a nice process although you have normally been put in a medically induced coma during the latter stages to reduce your body’s oxygen requirement and increase you odds of pulling through just a fraction. Been there, watched it, albeit with with bacterial pneumonia of a relative and it ‘taint nice. And don’t forget if one does nothing and catches it one numbers take off one can pretty much assume that if you go critical you’re a goner ‘cos getting an ICU bed will be remote in the extreme. So I think I’ll stick with a strategy which reduces the chances of having to play gamble of the century while the epidemic is in full flow.
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Fatality rates are likely to be in Europe closer to those in Italy rather than the 1% seen in China outside Wuhan. The WHO believe the level of care and use of ECMO in China far exceeds that which is and will be available elsewhere in the world. ECMO is basically a heart and lung machine that takes over most of our body’s respiratory functions until our lungs can recover. We have only 6 centres in the UK with such machines to cover the whole country. So ECMO will play virtually no part in reducing fatalities in the UK whereas it has played a major part in China.
Bruce Aylward of the WHO Team that visited China –
“The average case fatality rate is 3.8 percent in China, but a lot of that is driven by the early epidemic in Wuhan where numbers were higher. If you look outside of Hubei province [where Wuhan is], the case fatality rate is just under 1 percent now. I would not quote that as the number. That’s the mortality in China — and they find cases fast, get them isolated, in treatment, and supported early. Second thing they do is ventilate dozens in the average hospital; they use extracorporeal membrane oxygenation [removing blood from a person’s body and oxygenating their red blood cells] when ventilation doesn’t work. This is sophisticated health care. They have a survival rate for this disease I would not extrapolate to the rest of the world. What you’ve seen in Italy and Iran is that a lot of people are dying.”
I’ve been concerned up but truly never spooked until now. A 2% case fatality rate in the UK which is below that which Italy is experiencing and assuming that infection peaks at just 66% of the UK population rather than the 80% some experts are suggesting would see 900,000 deaths here. So, for Matt Hancock to say that 500,000 deaths is a reasonable worst case scenario if anything is still to substantially down play what is more than easily possible.
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Duke, I’d be inclined to tout your place as the safest place to eat and drink while Covid-19 is around. I’d do that by having a bouncer on the door with one of those temperature scanners and a sanitizer hand gel that patrons must use before entering. BTW I’m not joking.
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HMG are saying that around 20% of the UK workforce could be sick at one time when this peaks. OK lets work rationally with that figure.
There are approx. 26.5 million people employed in the UK plus approx. 4.5 million self-employed people. That’s a UK workforce of 31 million. So if 20% of that workforce are sick at one time that’s 6.2 million simultaneously ill during the peak. Let’s be optimistic and say only 3% of those deteriorate to needing an ICU bed and intensive care in order to ever pull through. That means we will need at the epidemic’s peak 186,000 ICU beds (i.e. 3% of the 6.2 million simultaneously ill) plus heaven knows how many non-critical beds we would needed in addition trying to support the very unwell patients so that they don’t ever progress to being critical.
Hang on though. 20% of the UK’s 31 million workforce isn’t 20% of the UK’s 67 million population, is it? Presumably at the peak there will not be merely workers who are ill? So we will need far more than just the 186K ICU beds for workers who are critical. One hell of a lot more because we will need beds the very old younger infirm (all non-workers) and a group most likely to deteriorate to the point of needing Intensive Care.
Note everyone reading this that the above is based squarely and solely on HMG’s own explicit statement that 20% of workers will be simultaneously ill at the epidemic’s peak. Only a fool would fail to see that there will be no care available for the vast majority who need it at the peak. Stark as it is to face, the only rationale personal strategy is to take every possible precaution imaginable to avoid getting infected or at least avoid getting infected until the peak has long passed.
I personally believe that huge inconvenience and a battering of one’s personal finances in preparing for this are far more preferable to the alternative. That alternative for most of us here being very grim due to age and to already existing medical conditions. The NHS will not be able to afford to try to save those in whom the chances of success are far from optimal. Nor would I want them to. If it’s a young mother with kids or me that gets the only available ICU bed and ventilator I agree it should go to her. Realistically the chances of that resource having been well spent if spent on her must be far greater than if spent on an old phart like me. Besides if I get this virus then my other half will and her chances of surviving it are well below zero. So I’d have no body who was heavily dependent on me being around if I caught this whereas a young mother would.
I started this thread on 23 January and quickly recogning where this was quite likely to be heading I’ve had time to come to terms with it; to consider the best strategies and to prepare for it by gathering what is needed to enact them. I truly believe that in doing so I am not just looking after number one (and number 2, SWMBO) but doing my part in looking after everyone else. Because if I can avoid getting infected then I am one less potential ‘spreader’ and one less person placing a burden on the NHS at a time when its resources will be depleted in the extreme. I have tried in this thread to provide to Forumites the information which HMG and the MSM had withheld or been hesitant to disclose; and to encourage others to take the maximum possible steps to protect themselves and in doing so protect others and NHS resources. I believe, Ed, has reached a similar conclusion. I, and I expect Ed also, would welcome the company of all other Forumites in this endeavour.
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Felt like screaming and tearing my hair out as I read this on the BBC news feed regarding Italy.
Half of all confirmed coronavirus patients in the country have mild conditions and have been told to stay at home, according to Italian news agency Ansa
Some 40% are in hospital and only 10% are in intensive care, Ansa reported.
What idiot wrote that? ONLY, yes ONLY 10% of the infected need Intensive Care. So if only a tiny 3% of the UK get infected (that’s 2Million) then all we will need will be only 200,000 ICU beds. That’s alright then, isn’t it. Hang on. We only currently have 167,000 beds of all kinds in the NHS let alone ICU beds. I think we might just have a sight problem perhaps? Oh silly me I’m being so foolishly distrusting. After all Boris and Matt Hancock have both said our NHS is prepared. So I guess that the NHS have 200,000 ICU beds tucked a way in a cupboard somewhere ready for a rainy day along with a life sized terracotta army of medically trained robots to service them. Nothing to worry about folks, move along now.
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I’m still a bit concerned about the statement that sneezing is not a symptom of Covid-19. Some reports say it has been seen. However, even if it turns out to be 100% correct that Covid-19 never causes sneezing, a very real danger exists that Joe Public will misinterpret that message as meaning that sneezing is evidence that an individual does not have Covid-19. That is highly dangerous.
Covid-19 infected individuals might sneeze due to many other causes and when they do they will spray out infected droplets no matter what caused the sneeze. For example, colds can co-exist with Covid-19; for some moving into bright sunlight can provoke sneezing; some people suffer perennial allergic rhinitis while as the weather warms our old friend seasonal allergic rhinitis (hay fever) will be with us. Indeed while hay fever in the UK is mainly caused by grass pollen about 25% of sufferers are equally susceptible to birch tree pollen and that peaks in April and May which will be right in the middle of the main Covid-19 surge. I believe one must assume that all sneezes are potentially virus laden.
In summary – I believe it is important to always stress that while sneezing is not in anyway diagnostic of Covid-19 sneezing does not mean that an individual does not have Covid-19; and if they are infected and sneeze it will be just as infectious no matter what caused it.
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My other half has a sales and marketing background as do I but hers not as deeply routed in para-medical marketing. When working she always excelled at thinking outside the box and coming up with strategies that were highly effective. Chatting last night she said she wondered if HMG had remembered the power of ‘the Soaps’ for spreading messages and provoking public symmetry. It hadn’t even occurred to me but of course she was absolutely right. The principle of ‘product placement’ used often in the USA works equally well with ‘message placement’. If people hear or see folks doing things in Corrie, Enders and Emmerdale then many will copy that lead. Once seen on those shows things become the norm for huge swathes of folk many of whom pay far less attention to other message platforms. Folks in the Soaps should immediately be seen washing their hands constantly, avoiding handshakes and opening doors in an aseptic way, etc. It will provoke such habits in certain sectors of the population far more effectively than would a large HMG advertising campaign.
Appropriate advisory email sent off this morning to various officials.
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The Italian Covid-19 epidemic is now in such full swing that China today reported 7 new infection cases that were imported from Italy !!!
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Saudi Arabia, Latvia, Senegal and Tunisia all registered their first case today.
Its been a bad day. Of the 2,036 cases so far in Italy there is still no outcome in 1,835 of them and 166 of them are now in a critical condition. Of those cases where an outcome has already been reached 52 have died and just 149 have recovered. This is bleak; because even if no-one else in the 2,036 cases dies and all of the currently critical pull through, the case fatality rate will still be 2.55% (i.e. 52 out of 2036). In that this is the first sizeable European cohort it does not bode well.
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Lee,
I have double, double checked. A dose of 40,000 iu a week is only recommended as a loading dose for 7 weeks. After 7 weeks the dose should be dropped to a maintenance dose equivalent to 2,000iu a day; although using the 20,000 iu caps just two times a month would be OK. The only clinical justification for 40,000iu for more than 7 weeks would be if a blood test was taken between the first script and the second and the deficiency was still not corrected such as to warrant continuation.
My concerns remain the same as previously stated. Protracted use of the 40,000iu a week dose which in your case seems to have already been for 12+ weeks carries a high risk of precipitating excess levels of calcium in the blood. I spend most of my working life talking to senior clinicians and medical academics and would not hesitate making this challenge to any of them either academically or if I myself were placed on such a dose. If blood tests have not been taken I would want to know why this potentially hazardous off-licence dose is being persisted with without them.
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@RSB
Had to go check this because my memory is not what it once was but at the dose you are taking of Vit D I hope that your GP is undertaking bloods test very regularly as there is a considerable risk of such causing hypercalcemia (too high calcium levels in the blood) and that’s very bad news for hearts and kidneys. It would be even worse if one was also magnesium deficient because Mg+ also acts as the body’s natural calcium antagonist. As I say I hope your blood levels of calcium and magnesium are regularly checked, if they are not then I very strongly recommend that you absolutely insist that they are.
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No, Your correct @thevfmaddict I should of mentioned that. I have to take 2 so 40’000 per week.
WOW. Never seen that before. You must have been incredibly Vit D deficient. What are you a subterranean dwelling vegan; no sun, no meat and no oily fish? ……… LOL
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Thats good, I am on prescription for 20’000 IU HuxD3 colecaliferol.
Just wanted to jump in there re the Vitamin D. You don’t mention it but that dose of 20,000 iu would definitely be one a week I assume. Doctors almost universally use that dose once a week and I’ve never seen a doc use any other dose of Vit D. I just didn’t want anyone to think that was one a day. Once a day (140,000 iu a week) would be very dangerous indeed.
Unless one is diagnosed as Vit D deficient 10,000 to 15,000 iu a week is probably sufficient and is best into daily doses. I myself now take 14,000 iu a week. To get that I take two of these a day. Let me explain the calculation. One microgram of Vitamin D (written mcg or ug) equals 40 iu. So each 25mcg equals 1,000 iu. Two a day seven days a week equals 14,000 iu. I previously used a 12.5 mcg Vitamin D for Lidl but that being half the strength required 4 a day. I just prefer 2 a day although either route is as effective as the other. I should add that the conversion from weight to iu’s is different for different supplements and this conversion only holds for Vit D.
Quite apart from its benefits in helping to fight infections there is some study evidence that it assists in maintaining cardiac contractility hence reduces the risk of developing heart failure. There is also some evidence that it promotes the growth of tiny collateral blood vessels which can in part shunt and fill in for blockages or partial occlusions in major cardiac arteries. The advantages in either case are very small but what the heck every little helps which is why I started taking Vit D about 18 months ago because with my other half’s mobility issues we rarely get out especially in the winter.
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Ed, re your mask sizing if large is too big for her you have no option but to drop a size and logically that should be ideal unless she has room to dance in your size mask because it is flopping about everywhere.
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At 2.35pm yesterday I wrote……..
……………. Europe inc. the UK has now had 1,167 cases to time of this post. That’s already almost twice as many as the 639 cases China had as recently ago as 23 January. Even I, who clearly from my OP on 23 January suspected that this virus would be of huge consequence to the world, am, as I look back shocked at its speed of growth. It is almost surreal. I wonder if Europe will be every bit as injured a month and a week from today as China now is a month and a week from 23 January? Especially given that our starting blocks for such a five week period sit at 1,167 and China’s sat at only 639 for theirs.
Here we are fractionally less than 24 hours later and cases in Europe have as near as damn doubled. They stand at 2,279 versus 1,167 at the same time yesterday. That’s an insane doubling rate – just 24 hours.
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Welcome aboard Simon. Doubly nice that you’re a MM veteran.
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Dave, I still have my stepson’s old Dave’s Special in the loft. I couldn’t bear to part with the most versatile mobo ever created. Nothing like it before it and we’ll never see anything like it again. If anything deserves the title ‘a Classic’ then that Asrock mobo does.
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I had an ENT appointment on Thursday and signed off a consent form. I was told not to expect a long wait, it should happen in the next 3 months. We spent Friday morning packing up and dealing with the odd chore before a weekend trip. Then the phone rang, showing a number like a scammer in Delhi. Happily, it was the NHS, could they do the pre-admission this week and the procedure next week? Short of an emergency admission via A&E that appeared about as fast as things get. Apparently, they are keen to keep breathing cases flowing through the system. So, no panic or concern beyond business as slightly better than usual. Over the weekend we did over five hundred miles, the slow roadworks saved fuel meaning over 60 mpg but a tiring twelve hours of driving.
Glad your op is taking place asap. But to suggest there is no concern in the NHS regarding the thousands of new Covid-19 respiratory cases due to arrive in the near future, when even now the NHS is already at full stretch, borders on the preposterous. I’m not one bit surprised that your unit is “keen to keep breathing cases flowing through the system”. Getting everything done that can conceivably be done before the tsunami hits makes absolute sense. I suspect that had you not been getting your op done pronto then it may have been a year or more before a window within which it could be done ever returned. You are luckily on the right side of the cusp it seems. How lucky you are I believe from your words you still do not realise. But I have not the slightest doubt you’ll have proof of that long before March comes to an end.
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Les,
Don’t know if you read my earlier post which included the words –
‘So what age groups make up the majority of the fallen when struck by this virus? Well the WHO joint mission to China reached the following conclusions:
The median age of the fallen is 51 years old.
50% of the fallen (known as the IQR) reside between 39 and just 63 years of age.
75% (yes, the vast majority) of the fallen reside between 30 and 69 years of age.’
So, Les, although the old are at considerable risk most deaths will occur in the age range 30 to 69 if it plays out here as it has in China.
I am still of the very firm opinion that masks and goggles are an absolute must when out even if only because they prevent us from inadvertently touching our faces with hands that are infected when out. It is all to easy to do that and soon the chances that there is virus on door handles, hand rails or supermarket baskets & trolleys will be far from remote as more become infected.
If one can find them them masks are worth buying now along with goggles even if one puts off wearing them until the numbers of infected grow and one will be less self-conscious wearing them because many others are doing so also. Be aware that once this explodes it will go from dozens to tens of thousands in the matter of 10-15 days and hundreds of thousands a further ten or twelve days after that. Trying to buy masks longer at that point will be harder than finding rocking horse droppings on the far side of the moon.
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I agree that masks are of great benefit. I agree that the loose loop paper masks do not appear to have slowed the virus significantly in China but I believe the reasons for such are numerous.
It is true that such paper masks will not filter air as well as do N95 or better masks. But such filtering is only important if the virus is spreading by aerosol transmission and that as yet is unproven. The paper masks will still act as a barrier to larger droplets so one would expect to see a reduction in onward infection rates for that reason alone. I suspect that there was a big difference in oral or nasal acquired infections due to incoming cough or sneeze droplets but that that did not impact the number of total infections for two reasons.
The first it that those loose fitting paper masks are all too easy to slip a finger under without really thinking; if one has a small itch, etc. They certainly would not prevent self-inoculation with infected hands as well as does a fitted N95 mask which makes finger insertion very difficult and hence would cause pause long enough for it to dawn on one, “Hang on. WTF am I doing”.
The second reason is that masks shut only two of the three facial entry routes for the virus; that is to say they cover mouth and nose but not the eyes. It matters not if the virus is even totally prevented from entering the mouth and eyes if it is welcomed into the eyes there will be no reduction in total infections in mask wearers. For this reason I have been banging the goggles drum from the start. To me it is damned obvious. Most in China wore masks but very, very, very few wore goggles. I have not the slightest doubt in my mind that this is the reason masks appeared not to dramatically reduce infection rates. They probably dropped oral/nasal infections dramatically but this would not be seen in total infection rates because coughs and splatters remained just as potent because the shotgun type blast of each still hit the mask wearer’s eyes. And of course without goggles one is highly likely to still touch one’s own eyes with infected hands.
Wearing a mask without goggles to me quite patently has the very same vulnerability as did the Maginot Line. No matter how good that defensive barrier (i.e. the mask) is if it leaves an open door to invasion further north (i.e. the eyes) it will never be as effective as it would otherwise have been.
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Bob,
The article you linked to takes the polar opposite position to that in The Guardian (a paper not known for supporting capitalist spivs). The Guardian says masks can reduce your risk of infection 5 fold, versus no barrier. The truth lays somewhere between the two in my opinion based on studies I have read. They are at the very least effective in stopping large droplets of the kind folks launch when sneezing or coughing; and as we know some folks can do that with no warning. If you are in the range of such and get a face full even without feeling it you will get infected if you are wearing no mask. Also as I have stated above masks also physically prevent us from inadvertently touching our mouths and noses when out and about with hands they may well have touched an infected surface. Goggles do the same for eyes. Most of us touch our faces several times an hour. Just monitor your own activity this evening to recognise that. So masks and goggles do reduce one’s chances of getting infected and it is truly nonsense for the article you linked to claim that the don’t.
There is no scaremongering by me in this thread. I just wanted to ensure Forumites had.have the true facts such as to make informed decisions. Until today HMG had been hiding much of the truth but this morning Matt Hancock on BBC admitted that the its is a reasonable worst case scenario that half a million will die in the UK of this virus. That’s what I have been trying to tell all Forumites for a month; so that they could prepare at their leisure before things ran into short supply or became unavailable due to panic buying once HMG started telling the truth. The Panic Starting Gun was fired this morning by Hancock. Spring things on folks at this eleventh hour and only now tell them half a million of us in the UK may well die of this was/is certain to cause panic. There should have been a drip feed over the last month by HMG to reduce sudden shock/panic. Instead HMG for a month has been saying this thing is not much worse than normal flu; only to today tell the truth. The flu kills even in this worst season just 16,000 of us in the UK this may kill 500,000. You can’t compare those two figures, can you?
Do you recall this line from Orwell’s 1984 – “The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.” I didn’t do that I looked at the hard evidence from the start. Doing that made was was incoming obvious. Ed, did the same. We regognise that others may not have had the time to and just assumed what HMG and the MSM were saying was true. Folks also were lulled into a false sense of security because SARS, MERS and Ebola never amounted to much for us in the UK; and they assumed this was just like them and would fizzle out. But this virus could be considered to be NINJA SARS. The infected can infect others even before they have symptoms so it is hard to track. That’s why numbers are growing so fast across the world. Moreover this often kills slowly, so folks take up a hospital or ICU bed for weeks. This will result in something akin to a DoS (Denial of Service) attack on the NHS. And as the NHS is swamped death rates will rise because those who may have survived it with good intensive care won’t get it because all ICU beds were long since taken by other Critical Covid-19 patients.
Bob, I am not trying to scare you. Merely telling you the facts so that you realise that you must take every possible step to ensure that you don’t become infected. Prepare now, pdq, for God’s sake, mate.
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