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I couldn’t trust them to put an omelette together. If anything this shows they should have more oversite.
Just hand the keys to Brussels.
Keep XP off the Internet. It will just end up being a bot. Xp OK for a non Internet connected device, but Not for connected devices. The more XP pc’s connected makes the Internet a less safe place for everyone.
Good news Richard, we have to take the wins as few as they are.
My best mates bad had some bad news about his father and his lungs. I don’t know the full details till the weekend. But do know he is at are main cancer ozzy this week for a full mot. ?
I never knew people thought the oppersite Dave. That was always the way. Last week (iirc Thursday) I heard on the radio that with the EU or us, had to come out and say we could just terminate A50 and carry on, blew me away a bit, given I already knew that.
I’d not heard anyone saying anything different, so didn’t realise people must of been thinking what you point out above.
Now if we leave and then want to return, like someone mentioned above, then we will be entering on the bottom run, and we’ll be squezzed to within an inch of our life’s, and so we should be. That’s how business works. If we need to go back, we have zero bargaining power then.
Were not leaving anyway Dave. Ive said it for over 2 years now, and am yet to see anything different. I’ve long suspected may was briefed to built a terrible deal, and she will be ‘made whole’ after politics.
It will be interesting to see what positions out of gov she gets post ner leadership and this brexit ballache.
Whatever the plan they need to speed up the time line, as it’s getting boring and the uncertainty is starting to bite.
Bob the axe owner was either on his hols, pterodactyl air pronaly. or given we had free trade then, he could of sold it and shipped it via mamaouth post, to the mainland. Lol
Both very reasonable options.
I was out last night talking in the pub, and brexit came up as it does. And the subject of a GE and if one party ran on just staying, would you take it. Most said yes, wether left or right leaning people would all vote for the oppersite party to their beliefs if it would end this.
They would be willing to put personal politics aside, and write off the next four years.
Then it moved to the lib dems. If a GE broke out and they said we will end brexit if you pick us, would we go their, if both Labour and tory was vague on the matter, and the majority said yes. It got us thinking if enotj time had passed since the Clegg era that they would be trusted to come through with a promise.
To come out as a staunch remain, could be their way back to the big league, not just that, it could win them the GE and even a majority. Imagine that.
Lib dems ride in and steal the lot from under the main parties noses, and save the nation. Lol.
VFM you seem to be certain about a lot. All I know is the current set up is OK, and all the leading economists seem to forecast a mess ahead.
Not that it needed any leading economists to see this. I’ve been banging the drum since pre referendum.
Anyhow, all the polls suggest that if it comeS to another vote, the public is now well aware of the mess and lies told by the bexiters and will vote to remain part of OUR EU.
So we can put all this sillyness behind us.
As for utopia, I said days ago, I’m no real fan of the EU set up, I just prefer it over our politions. Sadly they need oversire. And mainly it keeps us all friends. Given our track record it’s better to be tied to the mainland states than not.
Also to me it seems very arogent to think our tiny nation is better off alone than part of the latest trading block on the planet. No wonder we had to beg to get in, in the first place.
39 billion they want from us, just as an opening offer. 39 Billion ! I will say it again just in case anyone missed it .39 Billion !
The EU trade block is worth about 7trillion (or some huge amount) they have said withing 24 hours of us leaving if we don’t pay what we OWE, they will file a clase in the haige against the uk.
I can’t see many nations ling up to make deals with us while we ate tied up in court over breaking terms with a giliuth trading block. It doesn’t make us look good or trustworthy does it.
Also you have to remember, to the rest of the world, they are looking on at us as the aggressors and the ones in the wrong here too. They don’t see us as hard done. So negating on payment terms is only goin to worsen our reputation. So that 39bn if we fight over it, will cost us far more in the long run. We should pay it ASAP if we decide to leave
But we can’t make a better deal with Canada as they have a deal with the EU, so any deal made will be worse than thd one we have.
NZ will likely only have lamb to flog us, but America will want to undercut them with substandard meats,, and NZ don’t want euro cars, they like American and Japanese cars. Same as aus. And I’m sure anything else we have on sale, they cn get for cheaper from Asian, which is on their door step.
The point was, we have a free trade deal with one third of third of World biggest market, and have good deals in place with the other major trading states via the OUR EU deals.
They also mention that we could leave and use our current trading deals until we get round to negotiation new ones, this just isn’t possible , plus even if it was, the current trading deals work why we are in trh EU but make no sense if we are out, as the deals in place protect certain goods of other nations, as well as our own, so we be say, trading with Brazil for example, but still be using terms that protect forign oranges, truffles, tomatoes, etc.. The deal we have in place via EU rules, don’t work for the UK when is a single state. They actually would work against us in a big way.
There is many things wrong with the set up. Also another big concern of mine is drugs, Especally one’s with time sensitive life spans. The medical accociation or some major body recommended we should be stock piling 6 months worth of drugs, the gov can’t afford that so it’s decided on 6 weeks buffer of drugs, insulin and the like, so that’s an issue!
But what about drugs with short life spans that can’t be frozen? Like many things asosianted with cancer treatments.
Some of trlhe isotopes used come in on a daily basis, somthing I didn’t know till latety. These can’t be stored, and if there is hold ups of days never mind weeks or months, people will die needlessly. For this single issue alone, brexit should be stopped untill customs and the import/export hazardous and medical material, never mind foods, has been sorted out.
As it stands the items we need desperately will be the items that will spend longest in lorry yerds going through checks. This is without mentioning non critical just on time manufactoring that won’t be able to plan and operate going forward. Which will go from non critical, to very frigging critical to the people that can’t pay their mortgages as their hours are slasted or worse!
More mortgage failures means more houses on the market, which means drops in house prices, which means when fixed rates come to an end negivtive equity so no remortgage, so more houses on the market, banks coming up short. Interest rates will rise, so more houses on the market so more losses, plus business failures, no investments, so more job losses, inflation etc.. All the good stuff. 2008 crash well be looking back on fondly by this point.
This may be worst case scenario, but it’s very likly to be more towards the worse end of the spectrum than the better. Uncertainty kills economies. And this is the mother of all uncertainty.
Not a single pro argument makes sense. They are all about ‘opinions and beliefs’, instead of facts, figures and forecasts.
Not to mention European immagrats are actually met contributors to the comtry, and not a drain like most brextremists would have you believe.
The people that cost the countries are the under 21s (medical and education) the over 65,(medical and pensions), the average EU immagrant is about 25-45, they come over work (the majority) , pay in to the pot and usally leave. Contrabuting to the yound and old of this nation.
Yes there is some umemployed, but we have rules in place to move them back home, we just don’t enfoce them, as it’s not in the nation interest to do so, the few that are a drain, it would cost 10x of not more to put in a system to police it. So I doubt we will after we leave, given there will be less money on hand.
Oh, good morning. Lol.
Rather nice “jail”. I like to go to the mainland at least twice a year, to visit our “jailers”. I particularly like our French guards.
I was only joking. Plus my ahead back on to the neighbours extention.
I could do the FiL garage lol.
I have the biggest erge to try the flour/hover method on my garden shed. Not that there is anything wrong with the shed, it just sounds fun.
Corn flours goes up well, had lots of fun with that as a kid. It burns like a gas ball, when thrown across a fire in a dispersed type of throw. (sort of like skimming a stone method). Icing sugar to, but that gets your sticky.
Spot on Richard. Just keep putting one foot in front of the other. Where we end up, is where we end up. I come to terms with that a few years ago. Worrying won’t change anything, if anything it can have adverse effects, but never positive..
Good luck to you on yours and your wife’s journey. ❤️?(was gonna put a beer but recall you like wine).
Regarding a trial, I think it’s probably a good idea, as even if you get the old (normal) treatment over thd new, you’ll be getting monitored more closely than you would not being on a trail.
So I’d say try it. As you’re probably better off, even if youre not getting the new stuff, and even if the new stuff isn’t effective, your bad luck adds to the future knowalge for those who sadly will be following you.
Bit yes it’s a tough call.
Talking of sugar factories, as kids we would ise icing sugar and corn starch, as ‘council estate fireworks’ .
If you throw a handfull of either across a naked flame, like a bonfire, you’d get some great fake firework flashes.
Or play bommy roulette, there you would all stand in a ring aorund the fire, and church a can of deodorant in it. One hand over your face, other over your crotch, and wait.
Very stupid, but no one ever got hurt beyond a brused shin or chest. You don’t even see un offical bonfire anymore.
Add all our old colonies together Bob and they make up about 5% of world trade (or some small figure), and I may be no expert. But doent we (the uk) manacfure high end highest engenieered products. Airplanes, moteror, cars and sports cars etc.. And arnt all our old colonies rather poor?
So how namy of these poor nations, are built high end high engineered items? Not many people will be buying Nissan cars that coat 10x there yearly wage, nether mind the rangrovers, mclarens or airplanes.
Thr nations by them are other with in Europe, or a nation that already has a deal with us via EU. We ain’t making better deals with them.
It like the old saying, so you 100% of a small pie, or 10% of a huge one. As the only nation that will want to make a deal with us are the poor nations that want to sell us grain and staples, they won’t be buying our high end merch. So the Pound will leaving our shares and not coming back.
Life is shit Richard. Sorry for your bad news. Figures crossed for you.
It seems Mrs May is having a terrible day in the office today.
But I think for trh first time I’m my life time parliament is actually doing what it’s there for. To sand up and keep the government in check.
Real democracy in action, its not often I have much decent to say of our ruling class, but today they are actually doing what they should.
Has anyone considered that if we just leave with no deal and it proves to be a mistake after say 5 years (You have to give it a decent go) then its not the end of the world. The EU would ALWAYS welcome us back under the standard EU terms and the Remainers would get to say we told you so. Point settled.
I think we all have thought that, and know that going out and trying to return means we reenter in a far less favourable position.
We can revoke A50 and carry on in our current capacity, (which we had to beg For in the first place, as we are idiots), or leave.
No sane person would think we would get to waddle back in to the club in x years and be allowed to resume.as before
As soon as countries started to push to legistalte it it was doomed. As that was its only usp. Also the time it takes to make trades with it is broken, and there have been to many exchange breaches (thefts), so faith was undermind early on.
My BiL last xmas told me of this new great thing, “bit coin” , I laughed and told him he was 5 years too late. Then my tale of choosing to fold over mining. Then they give you a few hundred coins just for starting to mine, and my rig then could of knoch a few a week out. I’d of probably got 1000 before my rig was no longer up to it, and probably upgraded and chased the coins.
I’d of cashed out at the $1000 a coin point peronally. Even though they went up to to about 15k a pop at some point, and are around 4k atm. But I’d of been happy with the 1k a pop for 1k coins. (I hate bit coin), and not impressed with Stamford either. Lol.
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