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I forced agreement on each ten or twelve word minute BEFORE things moved on. Generally we reached agreement without an issue as they wanted to sell something and we wanted it to work on our situation. Back in the 1960s I did manage to wind up one committee after about 10 months as the minutes shrank down to half an A4 page. I cannot now remember what that was about.
Steve, when I have had recent periods of hand trouble I found some of the dictation methods on both mobiles and PCs to be my friend. The spell checker has also done a better job than I usually manage ‘freehand’, especially, but not limited to medical supplies names. Before I retired I also found typing up not free handing minutes during meetings was a very useful facility, allowing minutes to be distributed as the meeting ended, not three months later when action points should have already been resolved!
Many years back I made a huge effort to improve my writing style, but increasing long sight, various arthritis issues and trigger finger issues, (five operations and counting) it has become an increasing fight to maintain any sort of readable script. When I recruited people overseas in the past it could be helpful to weed out those who had employed a letter writer, though face to face interviews a better way to try to assess recruits. I shall try to dust off my skills in the next little while as our neighbour has lost her father and brother on the same day and a personally written condolence still feels more personal and heart felt than a dashed off note on the computer. This is said by someone who scans hospital forms and completes them on the computer to help make them readable!
I well remember the comments of a team supervisor I met many years back. His organisation liked to circulate staff through various areas but he had one highly skilled chap, whose hands were described as being like five wrists and a thigh connected on one palm. Paperwork was impossible for him, yet in on one technical installation area he had no equal – and his ability to train others was a local legend. He simply had a feel for the work that he excelled at and aimed to enthuse those with whom he worked.
Bob, another notch on the tree of life, enjoy this one even if the day looks a bit dreary compared to the previous few days. Tomorrow should give a number of people a good blow for their money, so take care on Sunday and Monday.
Ed, I am not at all sure where the remarks about food banks came from, I know a bit about them since my disabled daughter used to sort and pack food two days a week for them. Introducing an alien content to the thread has complicated the issues. That social support payments are a mess is beyond disputes, and by the way my comment about the layabout who ‘did not do mornings’ was a real quote of a ‘customer’ at a job centre, not a food bank. The idea that one size fits all is very far from real as is the idea that all things presently work well, or that those in need always get the useful direct help they need, frankly they do not and until the cosy system of failure is taken down and rebuilt it will continue. In some ways the late 1940s labour exchange had a better idea (lets find what you could do) than the present set up (lets find all the things that you cannot do), but that is a totally different debate.
There were no humans in what became Britain and Ireland, before the Neanderthals moved in at the end of an Ice Age. They were driven out when the glaciers returned and eventually became extinct*. They were replaced by the first modern humans after the end of the last Ice Age. There has been constant, continual immigration since then: first Palaeolithic (Old Stone age) people replaced by interbreeding with other hunter-gatherers in the Mesolithic, to be replaced by interbreeding or competition with Neolithic (New Stone Age) peoples. When Doggerland was flooded and our islands separated from Europe, others still came. They brought the Bronze Age and the Iron Age, and agriculture from North African** people who moved West, bringing crop growing knowledge with them. Neolithics gave way to Celts, Romans arrived, Germanic peoples supplanted them, then came the Normans. And others, from all over the world, followed, in larger or smaller numbers, over the succeeding centuries. *But their genetic inheritance lives on, to a greater or lesser extent, within the bodies of many modern humans. ** There is genetic material within the majority of the people of these islands, in varying amounts, to this day, from these North Africans. Geneticists have traced it to the areas of Syria and Iraq, where the cultivation and cross-fertilisation of the wild grasses that became wheat and barley, began. There were no humans in Ireland before a Celtic people from the British Isles sailed across. The point I am labouring to make here, is that there has always been immigration into the British and Irish islands. There is no such person as a “True Brit”, we are a cosmopolitan, racial mix from everywhere. After the first modern humans (Homo Erectus) left Africa around 2 million years ago and spread across the world, humans evolved and developed separate facial and bodily characteristics, but all humans can still interbreed. So there is no separate human species. It’s a melting pot. Today’s problems of mass immigration have only one causal beginning: over 7 billion people, war, and dwindling resources. The Have-Nots will continue to press the Haves and it will get worse. I predict a future which will result in the Haves taking decisions to reduce the number of Have Nots by any means necessary. To survive, it may be necessary for the Have nations to adopt Hitlerian measures.
Bob: That was an interesting, but so far really un-responded to contribution, I want to widen the discussion base.
My understanding is that the initial evolutionary steps included the Neanderthals and other proto-humans from the initial ‘feed stock’ of beings, some barely flourished, some flourished for a while and some succeeded in further evolution. Where I have some questions is when you say the Neanderthals became extinct. My understanding is that they had moved into areas where their adaptations initially suited them quite well, but that when conditions further evolved other proto-humans also arrived there was a degree of interbreeding, though some say the branch split into another group of more advanced ‘versions’. Once more some continued and evolved and others did not flourish. The Neanderthals did add some illness resistance to the mix but their other disadvantages caused them to become an evolutionary blind avenue so they withered away as a subspecies though with some genetic advantages that carried forward. I was surprised to learn how short evolutionary spans could be when the reproduction cycles of a species is sufficiently short. The arctic Fox normally comes in one of two forms, (a) one that would attack humans on sight and (b) one that would run as soon as it saw a human. However within 50 years with selective breeding and version that has what most would term dog like reactions, warmth and empathy towards humans. Given that no one knows what the life cycles of early proto-humans were, it could be that in as little as 100 years similar adaptations could have resulted in very different strains of genetically compatible ‘tribes’ emerging. This would be a valuable trait as climate changes made more of the globe available to those who could adapt to the different conditions. Where I have some doubts is the possible assertion that it all stemmed from one happy (or otherwise) event on one site at one point in time. (That we share a large part of our DNA with many other species is not relevant as a pointer to where we came from. Some may have little or no current relevance but might yet be found to play a part in processes that are yet to be fully understood.) The ability of evolution to customise the basic model to suit new environments allowed such things as paler skin to be able to produce vitamin D from lower light levels and blue eyes to be more sensitive to those same lower light intensities. Thus that model could still survive in shadier Northern latitudes. Likewise some are better suited to consumption of e.g. alcohol and milk. For example many whose forefathers’ primitive farming produced grains that could only really be rendered digestively useful by fermentation ,so they survived on that somewhat alcoholic, modified diet. For other human ‘versions’ (I am trying to avoid terms such as races for obvious reasons) such attributes were of little or no value and the negatives of alcohol would prevail. In all cases the evolution of course happened because those more suited to an area survived and reproduced more successfully than those less well adapted. Sadly, sometimes blind avenues are the result, sickle cell anaemia protects against malaria but cripples the sufferer, in spite of that from a reproductive point of view nature found that even damaged bodies are better than dead bodies, hence the condition was perpetuated. (Personal note, I knew many who suffered from the condition and whose children fought a daily round against the pain of the condition, I am NOT making light of that issue.) Perhaps the worse nature produced evolutionary joke is the damned Panda. A bear with the digestive capability of an omnivorous bear, yet it has evolved only to eat one type of bamboo and has mating habits designed to ensure the smallest chance of reproduction. Still perhaps there is no risk of over grazing on its selected food stock.
Bob, while you rightly say that in the past migrations caused populations to arrive in or move on from land areas in the past neither the speed of arrival, generally walking pace, or the scale, typically a few family members and the availability of open largely uncontested spaces apply now. Established populations which are already crowded and jostling will not welcome the arrival of a mess of outsiders with unfamiliar ways and often hostile demands. The small scale movements arriving here, escaping from the European ‘problems’ in the 1930s through the 1950s caused some upsets but with some give and take and keeping their heads down a degree of integration was achieved and they gradually merged behind the scenes. I knew some of them in the 1950s as I went to school with their children.
The Greens apparently already suggest that now a viable population of the UK would be 20 million, so where should we export the surplus 50 million or so?
Today marks the second time that I have wanted to contribute to this thread and the second time that the gods of misfortune have frustrated me, third try now.
VFM, I very much side with your views on many well argued points. Certainly a level field is a desirable goal but can we have it when the societal norms push so many of those who live here in the wrong direction?
As long as it appears to be considered fine that attitudes such as the one I overheard at a job centre rule what hope is there for indigenous employment. On arrival with concubine and off sprout, the attendee was asked why they had missed the previous 5 interviews. Their answer was ‘
They was in the morning and I don’t do mornings.’
The situation of Oxbridge is interesting as the pursuit of education excellence is no longer seen as the point by other indigenous students. They wanted to be somewhere their own demographic was represented rather than to consider the educational goals of the place they were considering. I suggest that was not the objective of the overseas students who are vying to outnumber our own failing intake rolls and were prepared not only to pay more but also move outside their demographic comfort zone.
One other bit of employment folk lore that I was told by a younger person was that you should never say you have any sort of job if you are applying to someone you would prefer to work for. Apparently it was better according to this idea to appear unemployed. I suggested that this was hokum and that the inferior job was better than a current roll of backside sitting. The advice was followed and they got their preferred option.
Bob, I am well aware of the risks and risky behaviour that those of more tender years can undertake. I was not shall we say entirely blameless. There was the kid I knew who dabbled in ‘junior explosives’. He made fireworks and things that could and unfortunately did go bang. We played with such products, but the other demands of life moved me on. I called round to his house after not seeing him for a while, his elder brother came to the door, my friend had been mixing another batch of one of his brews and must have ground a little too well to ensure a perfect mix. The lot went up, though not being fully contained did not explode as such, but the burning mess was ejected from the bowl and as his face was in the direct access line he caught the full effects. His brother told me that he was unlikely to be available for a long time as he was in hospital for the long drag. I do not know what eventually happened to him I moved many miles away, but it was clearly not pretty.
At another time I came down Shooters hill in south London on a touring bicycle which did NOT have balanced wheels, I cannot confirm the speed but I passed my then friend as his speedo went off the scale at 40 MPH and caught sight of the speedo in a Morris Minor as I passed that with a suggestion that he was going closer to 50 than the speed limit. The unbalanced wheels were almost lifting off the road as the wheels to vibrated the machine in a very obvious uncontrollable way. I found out that some things can easily run outside their design limits if pushed too far, it took a while to regain what I regarded as control of what had been close to an unguided missile for a while. A third event suggested I was perhaps a slower learner than I should have been. One of the bridges I used to cross at the bottom of a valley had been washed away and the army had rigged a bailey bridge. Large signs showed the figure 10 and I not unreasonably though it meant 10 tons, not 10 MPH. Crossing in my then car at some where north of 30 was not one of my better ideas, I felt the suspension drop as the car went airborne and use all of its travel when it landed once more; the car and I survived. The return journey was more sedate and I lived through all of these stupid events.
An ex-school mate was less fortunate, he fell in with a wrong drug taking crowd at university, back in the 1960s and when I saw him during a summer vacation he could barely walk. He was a picture of total misery with his skin almost destroyed by eruptions. He begged me never to make the mistakes he made and avoid drugs at all cost. He had been told he would not see out more than another 12 months of painful life. He was the first from his family to have advanced that far through study and his once bright future was shattered. It was a sobering experience that has lived with me ever since, I have seen other lives cut short by drugs including a girl in my daughter’s class whore drugged father was the cause of his daughter’s death, he drugged and drank himself to death shortly afterwards.
These events have shaped by life and while I have taken risks since them, I like to feel I calculate the odds rather better than I once might have allowed.
One lesson I have learned from the rest of my travels through life are that no two people we might think of as being the same never are. The Muslims I knew came from many different branches of the religion and had very different views of life and each other. The Iranians were Shia of various types including some who were actually Bahai. The Sunnis tended to be more dour as a mass, though individuals from all groups were usually far more similar to you and me than might initially have expected. One was casually one of the most obviously racist referring to the wife of someone who had killed herself as of no importance as she was a third wife and very black. Another, had a quite wicked sense of humour. He used to drink beer and smoke like a chimney. I saw him a little while before he retired, still smoking like mad and I asked him if he would have a few glasses when he hung up his headphones. On no he said I am getting closer to Allah (be praised), I queried why he was still smoking since both were supposedly not acceptable, Ah I am not THAT close to him. His reply was an important memory from 50 years ago; he left when we were about to start employing female staff, and yes the two events were connected. Some of the females were also fine humorists and damned fine workers, better programmers than male counter parts.
Bob, neither bitter nor acrimoniousness, just honest. The reports from those who try to de-radicalise those who have been turned. Dealing with the males was said to be relatively easy though there is a measurable failure rate with them. However, the females were not radicalised by others but by their own stupid self choice and de-radicalising them was not a straight forward process nor a successful one. Since they had not been led into their mess by others, it was not possible for others to draw them back out again. They can never ever be trusted and like the proverbial bad apple they will rot the whole box, not to mention the entire warehouse.
I understand your example of having been deluded by someone who tried to sway you, but you were clearly able to see that you had been misled and able to be recovered rather easily. The woman in question lived with and saw their atrocities, but claimed she was not only unmoved but was totally prepared to continue on her deluded way even after four years of experience. There is little hope of sorting that one out, ever.
When I wrote I compared her lot with other murderers, perhaps I should have also included the likes of Myra Hindley and Fred West’s wife, would you also shed crocodile tears for them? I would not.
My wife was in Aden right up to the end and was one of the last civilians evacuated so I am well aware of that situation. No child should have to be brought up in that sort of situation or with that sort of lifestyle. This is why I agreed that the child should have no contact with the mother even if he has to be brought to this country. Under no circumstances should he become a meal ticket for her. Apparently the mother has named the child after some ancient war lord to celebrate her hopes for his blighted future, is that a good start?
Frankly the way that otherwise honest family orientated Muslims are able to continue to admit any shred of acceptance that those who abuse their religion for dishonest self glorification as still being Muslims I find degrading of them. Though I recognise the issue and the problems they face after living and working with them for 16 years It is written into them from birth once a Muslim always a Muslim. and in many cases the laws are written around that fundamental tenet. I can just imagine the outcry from all and sundry if the same ruling was applied to the likes of Fred West or the Ian Huntley and they were referred to as Christians and thus ‘brothers’, not to be spoken against.
Can I take it that you would not be in favour of lowering the voting age given you strong views on the gullibility of impressionable youth?
Bob, yes she was young and stupid with warped, stupid romantic ideas of what the world was like when she was 15, (what now does that say for votes for the stupid at 16?). However, she is now 19 and still espousing the same warped ideas that drove her four years ago. During that time she says she conceived and in effect killed two children by failing them and has now named a third to show her ongoing adherence to a death cult of non-Muslims, more accurately portrayed as devil worshippers. If a weak case could be made to allow her spawn of the devil to come to this country then everything should be done to insulate the suffering wretch from the sins of its bigoted, sinner mother and father and block another cycle of so called ‘radical’ stupidity.
I have very severe doubts that anyone so self indoctrinated and imbued with hate and driven solely by what she has done to herself could ever be ‘de radicalised’; it is a pity that she was not and has not yet been sterilised to prevent more suffers being foisted onto the world. She belongs to a sub class populated by the likes of freaks such as Fred West, Charles Manson, Beverley Allitt and Dr Shipman et al. To rake this dross together and call it a religious grouping is to stretch things too far, she might prima facie a have a passing likeness to members of the Thuggee pseudo sect of India. Though present revisionist historians deny they were a sect at all, just common criminals and foot pads who murdered. Perhaps, hopefully the current crop of satanists will suffer the same historical revision in a few years time.
Happily it appears that her fellow fools/travellers may have been disposed of preventing them from being a future problem.
One other possible scorpion in the heap is that some countries used to try to hijack babies born on their soil so that a ‘fun’ letter could turn up many years later giving details of a reporting point to use for their armed forces. I doubt that this birth will be recorded in any Syrian lists so that is one doubtful risk that may well lie down and go. It all serves to show how the laws of unintended consequences can haunt things and how simple items can get very complicated when the law and its profit minded practitioners collides with reality of life.
Yes I read reviews of the paper but I did wonder how valuable it would be to the ordinary PC or other device user? The sum total appeared to be that most, perhaps not all exploitation attacks would require physical access of some kind, so it would be wise to reboot after each use to minimise the risks, or is that an over simplification?.
I have never had the time or inclination to dabble with password managers so perhaps my level of engagement was reduced. As long as banks insist on devalued security, e.g. no name checking for transfers, carrying out financial work on a device is not something my personal inclinations favour. Others must draw their own personal conclusions.
Ed, is her ‘marriage’ even recognised or registered anywhere?
This whole subject is a legal minefield of possible legal debates, which no doubt tax payers will be expected to pay
Looks like we will be getting a fairly major feature update with build 18329 (19H1) Below is a link to the Windows insider details. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-insider/at-home/whats-new-wip-at-home
I have used Win 10 for a long time and found it very stable with no desires to fall over, though to be honest, most of my previous versions were like that. I have managed to overcome most of the issues of external devices becoming lost or discarded by replacing programs or bypassing any pointless road blocks.
You are right that is quite a list, but having read through it several times I did not find much of use, value or interest to me. Rather I felt that given a large group of users there would be one or two items that might attract a few of them, or have I missed something really exciting? Certainly, any improvement to the search function is to be welcomed as it almost never finds anything of value at the moment – except for the very unloved edge. My concern is that by understanding such items as RAW images the OS may try to take over their management rather than allowing the user’s normal program to take precedence as I would desire.
The integration of the NHS chose and book with my diary of choice application was a recent benefit, I would hate for that to be upset by any new application.
Having been through the process twice, once in the late 1980s and once in the early 1990s I can tell you that it is not automatic. Gaining a passport for subsequent children in the 2000s and onwards is also not an automatic process and both of our children had fully UK born families and previous UK born generations, part of the written law.
It is a complex subject and sadly copious reading is required along with challenging and time consuming chats at the UK overseas embassy, of not always of your choice and usually in the country of residence and/or the child’s birth. For example, is the outcome of the pregnancy now to be regarded as Syrian? Unless nationality has been simplified in recent years and I doubt that is the case, great care needs to be taken. The female in question has spared no effort to discredit herself and her espoused cause, such as putting heads as many as possible in dustbins and enjoying the sight, but no doubt it will once more be one set of treatments for those innocent and those guilty.
If and I hope it will not happen, the child is allowed into the UK it should be served with an instant child protection order and removed from the family, for ever. (I leave the issue of which family for others to row over.)
As far as the stupid woman is concerned her own foul mouth is enough to convict her and that terrorist protector ‘lawyer’ needs ‘re-education’.
As an interesting aside, recent research suggested that the males were usually indoctrinated by others, while the stupid girls did it all themselves including their travel to Syria in part so that they could escape their families and chose their partner(s).
Sounds like the matter is progressing as it should. I am not sure that the wording ‘have you been involved in accident?’ should really be held to apply to a situation such as this . You were not in anyway involved, since you were not even there. Hopefully it is a point that has been understood by their insurance company.
I accept that insurance companies are as slippery as a box of lubricated eels. A recent case saw AXA decline 90% of a claim because the now comatose injured party had not declared an inhaler they once got 4 years ago and about which no one else knows anything. ‘Helpfully’, confidentiality allows the insurance company to see this data, but prevents anyone else knowing what went on. Clearly that is (not) in the patient’s interest! I am now reconstructing my medical history so that rather than simply filling in any unlikely future insurance proposal box I can dump the fullest file of data on their lap and tell them to quote or walk away before any possible travel, with an E&OE foot note of course.
February 20, 2019 at 11:10 am in reply to: Is Labour now "#&cked" as was overheard yesterday during the TIG Launch? #30949The hate Britain and all it stands for as well as the EU and all that stands for leader of the present Labour party is hardly likely to stand on any middle ground! As for his cronies one of whom is a so called lawyer trying to support the odious thing that went to Syria and still spouts all her bile about killing innocents in this country because there have been efforts to stop her devil worshipping sect. A view supported by Corbyn’s friend, the equally odious lawyer. He who sleeps in pig muck in the gutter does not warrant friendship! In short, Momentum is the present so called Labour party which lost its roots and failed to find a real role.
The water melons, green on the outside red inside is never going to be anything like a middle ground contender.
The so called Liberals showed their lack of a grip on reality a few years back when they thought that they could continue to spend money that did not exist in a way reminiscent of members of Wilson’s failure government crowd. Remember George Brown’s we can spend our way out of a money shortage!
Any combination of the above should produce a rapid increase in the sales of suicide pills should they get near to power.
Does anyone read what those loons write, or hear anything they say?
While on a rant, I am quite equal opportunity. As for that equally odious Green sometimes owner of failing frock shops; why were laws not brought to bear on him earlier? (I see the US police are now taking an interest.) Oh yes of course, the speaker of the House of Commons did not want his cosy use of NDAs to be discussed, so they are still available to be abused by all with the money and clout to do so.
February 19, 2019 at 11:52 am in reply to: Is Labour now "#&cked" as was overheard yesterday during the TIG Launch? #30897I agree that both are an ugly symptom of the polarisation of ideas that can be taken as representing the major thrust of those not in tune with the more extreme arguments. Something along the lines of, If you don’t like all that Jeremy embraces then you must support (so called not his real name) Tommy Robinson. Or equally wrong, If you do not like (so called not his real name) Tommy Robinson, then you must be a friend of Jeremy and his fellow travellers, now including Derek Hatton.
While both are equally wrong the discussion is slewed off the original topic onto a discussion of the weird and obnoxious so goes nowhere, except to generate heat without light.
Ed, don’t forget that the friend of almost no one Putin, also hates the EU with a visceral hatred (that he also extends to the rest of the west). Perhaps Putin has bought off George to do his very dirty work, he is rumoured to have a hand in the yellow vest movement and sundry other destabilising efforts, no one for fracking by any chance? However, returning to more solid ground there is a lot not going too well at the moment and you have not really addressed the problems of the great shrinking Europe. I wonder if some of the industries that were ‘EUed’ in the UK will rise from their ashes once more, though an improvement in education to create people capable of running them would also be a non-optional UK need.
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