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I think that just shows the author has no idea about what actually happens in Corporate environments. They clearly have not a clue about how, why and when PC upgrades happen nor the expense and planning involved of mass rollouts. I’ve been through a fair few of these events now and been in charge of planning and implementing a 500 seat one (2000 to XP on the Carrier project). In essence they are all very similar, but the particulars of this one are in a different league. It’s not a case of trying to get it working efficiently, it’s will it work at all.
As far as security is concerned, Corporates will not be ditching their tried and trusted third party solutions and giving it all to MS. TPM chips have been included in PCs aimed at Corporates for years, and they’re used. But take an encrypted machine through the US border and if you can’t give them the pass keys it will be taken from you if they are minded to. They can also legally download the entire contents. The people I use to work for were as worried about industrial espionage from our friends as they were the Russians or North Koreans. W11 won’t stop that and we’ve got quite good at stopping the Ruskies.
An i5 of the age MS are rejecting is still very capable in an office environment. That would not be a justification to upgrade any more. More ram or an SSD? May be, and a lot easier to get past the bean counters (been there). Justifying it on security grounds? Good luck writing that business case.
It’s small businesses, such as those that I look after, that don’t know about such things. Not the Corporates.
That’s how it always was back in the days of NT4. It all seems so simple looking back, even if it didn’t feel like it at the time. The first proper networked PCs we had were purely SNA gateways into the data centre AS400 and mainframes. I had to fight like hell to get “office” type tools installed and general purpose PCs rolled out. The mainframe and AS400 community, who basically ruled the roost, viewed them as little more than toys.
No MS Office, no Active Directory – we used Novell Netware, Lotus Notes. Huge dot matrix printers attached to LPT ports. No internet, no anti-virus or firewalls. I quite miss it, apart from Notes, a real PITA.
Doh! moment, you can only have one security device which is why the BIOS setting is as it is. Choose which one, firmware or discrete. That makes it even more puzzling that Windows wanted the least capable one, but in it’s eyes they both do everything it wants.
I think this is a mess in the making. If someone has the discrete chip enabled because they wanted the Intel features and Windows tromps all over it…. I’m thinking especially about VPro in Corporate remote support operations. By that I mean software installation and other management rather than remote desktop. If you kill SCCM agents you kill the ability to roll out software fixes as well as apps.
What if you had had BitLocker tied to the discrete chip? I dread to think.
Hmm, I think this maybe another W8 in the making.
Got disturbed replying. OK, so the TPM chip is there which makes the Windows bitching a head scratcher. Both the CPU and Discrete are the same version – 2.0 – but a discrete chip can support more things, like Intel’s vPro and Trusted Execution Technology. You’d think, given the choice, the Discrete chip would be preferred.
tpm.msc picks up the Intel or AMD firmware TPM in just the same way as a discrete chip, but it will tell you the manufacturer of what it’s looking at. My guess is yours will now say the firmware one, but how it deals with dual TPM devices I have no idea. It’s not an area I’ve ever needed to bone up on before! TPM is there and enabled, check. Start BitLocker, check. Reboot, check. Never go near it again.
I have a spare AS-Rock TPM and the R5 has an AS-R mobo. I may have a play. I need to open it up to put an internal USB splitter in anyway.
Ah ha! They have a special form of TPM chip designed to lie horizontally https://bityl.co/98pp
You learn something new every day, but why they couldn’t put it on the edge I don’t know.
The TPM sockets are always on the bottom edge of the mobo by the USB and Audio etc. as it’s a board about the size of your thumbnail sticking up. It would be too tall to fit under a heatsink and should be obvious. The empty socket looks much like a USB 3 one.
From what I understand 11’s not going down at all well. Upgrading an estate is always fraught (I’ve done a few), but I feel this one will be by hardware replacement over time; there’s just too much that can’t be automated for non compliant kit. It may be that like 8, 11 is ignored and the time is taken to make sure new hardware is compliant and setup correctly, but with 10 on.
I wonder how the AMD foul up could possibly have happened, especially as they have form in that direction.
Pretty sure it will just be an empty socket. The only time I’ve ever seen a TPM chip included (they’re soldered on) is on business laptops and Corporate desktops.
Maybe the BIOS was semi-intelligent and thought “he wants TPM turned on, doesn’t have a chip so I’ll enable the firmware”? I’ve not seen a mobo yet that will allow you to enable a non-existent TMP device and every business machine I’ve built or bought for the last 5+ years has had a TPM of some description.
Or MS was just looking for a setting and not testing (or enforcing) it’s physical presence? No idea but it’s a mess.
I must have a look and see if a new W11 device can be rolled back to W10, as they’ve done with previous o/s releases. I don’t want it coming in by stealth.
A Discrete TPM is the chip that plugs into the motherboard, I am assume you don’t have one?
I’m going nowhere near it for a long time. The only PC I have that has the required CPU (they all have TPMs) is my new Ryzen 5 and they’ve borked AMDs already.
He also said he’d never supported the Aquind power interconnect, just the principle. Turns out in a letter to Temerko in October 2019, Kwarteng, then the minister of state for business, energy and clean growth, said: “We have written to the commission to reiterate our support for a number of projects including, of course, the Aquind project.”
And they said the EU was corrupt!
She’s yet again being given the chance to mark her own homework.
How did he get a job given we now know his background, which wasn’t hard to find out, let alone keep it when he reoffended as an officer?
And there are so many Met officers under investigation for this, that and the other that if it were a Corporation the board would be out, never mind the CEO.
I knew about the classic racers from the Duke days, but guessed you didn’t have one of those!
Gilera certainly have changed since the 70’s. Always liked a big single thumper, never did get around to buying the Yahama SR500 I always hankered after.
We’ve long had our milk and yoghurts from the local dairy farmers consortium (?). Tastes totally different. And I now make most of our own bread and cakey things.
The only Gilera’s I remember are the red moped and the 150 Strada.
I am just avoiding it totally. The only spare kit I have is far too old and I could see the VM issues coming.
A lot of that happened to me in IT, we have had competition from the rest of the world since well before Labour got into power or freedom of movement took off. You don’t even have to move to do a lot of IT support. Just open an office somewhere and start employing the locals whilst paying off the Europeans.
Once the Post Office outsourced us the pension scheme stopped, so did the pay grades and the pay rises with it. My wages at the end were two thirds of what my peers were earning in the PO (and their final salary pension was long gone too).
I’m afraid it’s called globalisation and is a race to the bottom, the argument that poorer countries are raised to our level is pure fantasy. Yes, we have treated the truckers badly with regards things like amenities and working conditions, but the change in working practices are the same in any industry, except possibly the Civil Service (I don’t know enough to comment on them). Hospitality and retail are pretty shocking too.
Labour’s opening of the door to Eastern Europe hastened things for you by a couple of years, but that was always coming down the line no matter who was in power. The same as Brexit has speeded things up in the opposite direction, it’s just hastened the breakdown of our crap infrastructure model. Drivers were leaving faster than the could be replaced and that was going to hit the stops at sometime even if we stayed in, because it’s exactly what is happening over Europe now. The difference is we only have a small pool of potential drivers to call on, The Germans and French have a whole continent.
Pay may go up, I hope it does (and the consumer will ultimately pay) but I’ll bet not a single truck stop gets upgraded because the Brits don’t care unless they are affected personally.
Very interesting, will read up later.
September 20, 2021 at 10:53 pm in reply to: Even the French think the UK is just a US lap-dog! #68752I agree, but it’s not either us or them, it could be all of us. If we (the first world) don’t get the third world sorted it will only come back to bite us. At some stage the penny will drop with the public, I’m sure the politicians already know.
But at the moment there are bigger fish to fry here (and France & Germany); £20 benefit drop + inflation + tax hike + energy prices + end of furlough + food + cancel Christmas means that the vaccine is the only positive thing Boris can bang on about (again).
Is it me or is there a whiff of the 1970’s about the place? I just feel things are moving out of control and the politicians (of all shades – and probably all countries too) just don’t have the skills to cope. But that’s what happens when full of promises populism wins over boring competency, even the opposition has to play that game.
I don’t think the Union is going to come out of this intact either. Like in rugby, he who takes advantage of the breakdown wins.
At this moment I really wish I had an Irish grandparent. I’d be taking Dutch lessons and planning my retirement in the low countries as I once did.
September 20, 2021 at 8:01 am in reply to: Even the French think the UK is just a US lap-dog! #68740If it had been French Nuclear subs over British diesel subs you can imagine the headlines in the Express. But we’ve been there over the American mid-air refuelers contract.
One thing about politics in general and global politics in particular is that self interest always wins out. The current vaccine situation is the case in point. I find it hard to believe the rich countries couldn’t be supplying the poor but it’s presented as either / or.
EaseUS Partition Manager will do it too. Might have to be the paid for one though.
Let me know if you get stuck. 8GB and an SSD will do it, but some of the old dual cores really just aren’t up to it any more.
As I mentioned recently, I’ve breathed some life back into some old Intel’s by getting i5’s off E-Bay for £20 / £30. Better to spend money on that than going from 8GB to 16GB.
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