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The quick deaths in Iran are not that unusual. Looking at the pathology in the Lancet which was linked earlier, SARS-covid-19 starts with 6 days of a dry cough and chills (the cough continues to the end) This is followed by 3 days of fever and chills, then 5 more days of coughing before death.
If your number is on the ticket, half of your 14 days of remaining life are taken up by something that could look like a bad dose of flu, so I can quite imagine someone only being recognised as a covid-19 victim at a very late stage.
[edit] One late thought, all old pharts can get the pneumonia vaccination. If you somehow have missed out on this, then now is the time to get it!
Bob, I think you just made them four times as old as they are! I hope you are wrong as the wife and I went to one of their very early gigs in the LSE student union.
February 19, 2020 at 4:46 pm in reply to: Read First if flying on a Boeing 737 Max–or maybe not! #40800Another week goes by, another Boeing disaster story. This one however veers on the criminal – metallic debris in the fuel tanks of brand-new Boeing Max planes. BBC link.
That finding will probably result in a total strip-down of Airforce One as the US are totally paranoid about the safety of the POTUS plane.
I wanted to add that like you there are areas I just do not understand, but in particular I do not understand the Government’s efforts to talk down the issue. Almost every day a captive shill will say SARS-Covid-19 isn’t that bad and only a mild disease, while totally ignoring the implications of an R0 of 2.3 (only 1.3 million deaths compared with the 800000 that featured in the BBC Pandemic simulation). Maybe the evil Dominic Cummings favours the US Far Right view that a cull of the non-productive is overdue.
There is much that could be done without frightening everyone – just installing alcohol gel stations at the entrance to each food supermarket would have a major benefit in buying time to get the NHS ready.
An early article I read stated that the researcher thought covid-19 had all the hallmarks of a natural recombinant virus. i.e bat to another host to human. It looks like this is a fairly common way that the normal flu virus mutates in such an irritating fashion. This link is for research done on a recombinant bird flu. i.e gene splicing in nature.
Sounds like your house has good Feng Shui!
When I lived in Asia my Chinese friends spent a fortune on Feng Shui carp and would not do anything major until the local Feng Shui ‘priest’ pronounced it was OK. Much of it was utter rubbish but just like many religious dietary diktats much of it was based on observation and common sense.,
The one I liked best was that demons only travelled in straight lines (your front door must have a step to trip up demons). The other was mirrors – put a mirror near your doorway as the demon will see his reflection and be scared off! Go to any Chinese house and there will be little/big mirrors everywhere just in case!
All things are possible. However I favour a non bio-weapon theory.
Most importantly, a bio-weapon that attacks the non-productive parts of an enemy’s economy and culls the burdensome part is a pretty poor weapon and one more likely to have come out of Porton Down than China! Second, the latest gene tracking indicates a bat->pangolin->human ancestry, As a result, I think it more likely that this originated in the evil areas of the Wuhan Wet Market . It is possible that a newly captured pangolin was suffering from a bat crap virus (fruit bats dropping fruit and defecating onto the ants nest where the pangolin was snuffling). This then infected the human butcher of the animal.
The actions of the Chinese seem to bear this out – my guess is that the Wet Market area was quickly identified due to the early victims all working in the market. The mayor atypically fell on his sword in this respect and eventually took the blame for not acting early enough and closing down the market.. If he could have blamed a minion/ or the People’s Army research you can bet that it would not have been him that made a public confession.
I therefore favour human cock-up versus conspiracy.
If the worst comes to the worst and other treatments are not available, then a very large bag of liquorice all-sorts might help. (Black Spanish liquorice would be even better)!
I think I noticed a site database reset over the week end. If this actually happened you may be interested in this WordPress exploit going around:
The beginnings of a global pandemic can be seen in Japan:
“(Japanese) Authorities have said the virus is now being transmitted locally and have asked citizens to avoid crowds and non-essential gatherings.”
Bang goes chances of watching the Carling Cup from the stands!
Not Doggerland Bob, but judging from this you should not discard any wooden bits you find. People in that period were better craftsmen than we have previously credited.
Lots of vids on line showing floods in the border areas.
I guess no-one has actually gone for months without updating, so I’ve gleaned the following ‘rules’ from the posts so far.
Assuming Android is no longer being updated the following probably applies:
a) Apps that have ‘live’ info embedded such as Mapping Apps benefit by being updated.
b) Apps that save to the Cloud probably should be updated otherwise the Cloud save may silently go t-up
c) Apps that regularly download info probably should be updated.
d) Apps that use static data e.g. British birds App. probably do not need to be updated
e) Games apps probably do not need updating unless you hit frequent ‘bombs’
Please amend/add to my list as you see fit.
In case others want to do it, I emailed my MP (giving my name and address – they will ignore you without it). My letter roughly said the following:
Dear XXX,
I’m sure that you are aware of the latest information from the Chinese Centre for Disease Control in which they released the devastating impact that covid-19 will have on your elderly voters see https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-51540981, however you probably are not aware of the fact that the Chinese recommend the use of chloroquine phosphate an inexpensive antimalarial to ameliorate the disease see http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-02/17/c_138792403.htm. Unfortunately although this is licensed for holidays in Peru it is a Pharmacist prescription drug and licensed only for that purpose. I recommend that urgent steps are taken to make this an OTC drug to allow self help as well as making it possible for Pharmacists and GPs to prescribe it. Yours etc.
My recommendation is always to give an MP ‘face’ even if like my MP they as as thick as Pig Carp,
When I attempted to order Avloclor I received a stiff lecture on using drugs for purposes for which they are not licensed, I’m still not too certain whether the ordered tablets will ever arrive.
If others decide to go down the same route and do not have a good working relationship with their pharmacist then a little lying may be required such as a forthcoming trip to Peru (choose your country carefully as Avlocor is only licensed for a few central/south American countries.)
Lying aside, my small experience does raise potential issues. Chloroquine is no longer easy to obtain and has restrictive licensing. It is NOT currently licensed for Covid-19 so your GP will not be able to prescribe it, and your pharmacist may not release it unless you are able to do some fast talking while coughing up your lungs.
I’m going to email my MP and point out the problem and I suggest that other old pharts do the same.
To an extent it would not surprise me to see that chloroquine has been put back on the prescription list. As an anti-malarial it has been just about useless since the mid 1980s. Any one travelling to a malarial zone needs advice on the best prophylactic for the area (unfortunately not an area of expertise for most UK advisors!)
Did you manage to buy your chloroquine? Out of interest I looked on line and Lloyds Pharmacy stated it was prescription only!
Great news Bob!
Unfortunately anti-malarials do not agree with me. Chloroquine wasn’t as bad as others but made my eyesight go ‘wobbly’. In the end I had to go with sulphonamide tablets as a standby if ever cerebral malaria hit – thankfully it never did.
Artemisinin wasn’t around in the West at the time I needed it so I have never tried it. As this latter is the Chinese go-to for cerebral malaria I wonder if they have tried it against covid-19.
Richard, I know you have other ills that cause the coughing but if you are taking blood pressure meds some cause coughing issues even when they are ‘not’ supposed to. After suffering with an irritating dry cough for many years and tried a Greek alphabet of blood pressure meds I finally found a GP willing to listen and try something ‘different’. I was put on an alpha blocker on its own (not normal practice) and never looked back!
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