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I’m just wondering whether he is selling as a piece of antique stuff – see below another guy selling a very old machine for £92. Sorry but I do not know how to put the below as Boris did with ‘here’ on his opening post.
That said, probably in a 100 years they will be classed as valuable items of the early computer days and be displayed in science museums all over the world! Just the same as in 1000 years MFI / IKEA stuff will be seen as valuable antiques.?
The more you meet people the more you understand why Noah took animals instead of humans
Hi Bob,
Re: ” … including an hour to finish a foul tasting drink which looked exactly the same dirty yellow colour on its way out later, lol. …”
Ever thought you might have been a second user?!!!! ??
The more you meet people the more you understand why Noah took animals instead of humans
Live in hope, I suppose.
The more you meet people the more you understand why Noah took animals instead of humans
Alan – that is absolutely spot on.
Unfortunately the system of complaining to Amazon about something you have received usually ends up, as mentioned here, with them telling you to keep the old/damaged item and give you a new one. Anyone with a modicum of common sense will realise that for very many this can be a very lucrative scam, pay for 1, complain, get a replacement, sell the original! Although some may consider this entrepreneurism, we all pay more at the outset to cover those who commit these scams. Some 25+ years ago I know that Tesco were adding 1.5p to each and every item price to cover shoplifting.
The more you meet people the more you understand why Noah took animals instead of humans
People will do many strange things – many years ago whilst on CID I was called to an address by the manufacturer of a very well known brand of baby disposable nappies – the purchaser had found a very nasty thumb size piece of sharp glass in the crotch area. A ‘compo’ scam no doubt – and I am 100% certain of that knowing the claimant.
Although slightly different to JB’s problem – people will do, and do, do many things to seek compo. He didn’t get it.
The more you meet people the more you understand why Noah took animals instead of humans
PlaneMan – very true! Had to laugh at that one! But then I could argue that the Southerners get everything! ?
The more you meet people the more you understand why Noah took animals instead of humans
I feel so sorry for you soft southerners – ‘ooop north’ where I live we have T shirts and shorts, generally we start to consider a ‘cardi’ in mid January dependent upon the volume of snow when we need to go out! ??????
The more you meet people the more you understand why Noah took animals instead of humans
Hi JB,
I have to agree with Alen on this as unfortunate as it is for you. There are people in this world who would not stop to think about tampering with such items – a very small hole in an inconspicuous part of the box and a small amount of blood / red ink squirted in – the customer who unwittingly buys that off the shelf post your return …..!!!!!??????? It’s very much like underwear once purchased then they cannot be returned unless faulty.
It’s one of the downsides of ‘on-line’ purchases of this nature – you don’t get to touch it before you part with your cash.
The more you meet people the more you understand why Noah took animals instead of humans
Can I please add to the Geeky Xmas Gifts wishes – can I please get a mobile phone from EE that gives me 3G on Anglesey? I’ll worry about 4G next century!
The more you meet people the more you understand why Noah took animals instead of humans
Hi Bob – who is that ugly barsteward in the first photo? lol.
Nice to see you back. Got any shares in BT?
The more you meet people the more you understand why Noah took animals instead of humans
Been a bit quiet, I must admit!! ?
The more you meet people the more you understand why Noah took animals instead of humans
Glad all is OK
The more you meet people the more you understand why Noah took animals instead of humans
One thing very similar happened to me a few years ago, in the end it was the ON/OFF switch / cable / plastic connector to the motherboard.
The more you meet people the more you understand why Noah took animals instead of humans
D-Dan Not wishing to draw this rather tiresome argument out I note in your comment:
” .. Fortunately, they checked and it hasn’t been used. I do wonder, however, if it has been (a criminal offence) how Dwynne would have handled that. With the same disregard for other’s misfortune when they lose something, despite me having no control over it? Or perhaps with some sympathy? … “
Can I just ask when /if such a matter is reported to the bank – do they give you tea and biscuits? A chair, a towel to dry your eyes? People should learn to look after their own property and not expect others to pick up the pieces. As your card hadn’t been used in any fraudulent activity – we would not have met hence the rest of your comments are pure speculation – even more so as you don’t even know me.
The more you meet people the more you understand why Noah took animals instead of humans
Ed P – I’m not really 100% certain that cuts in the police forces can be laid at the doors of the PCCs – in the main police funding comes from the Home Office / Treasury etc. and it is they who decide what the total police budget / force is set at with a contribution from local taxpayers. In the past few years this government has not only reduced police numbers but also police experience – replacing 30yr bobbies with new recruits – get rid of 1 and get 2 newbies! On paper this is great but the loss of expertise, knowledge is incalculable – experience and expertise that has been achieve over decades of service. What we have now is Police PLC.
The PCC have added an extra ‘locally accountable tier’ to policing – to ‘make certain that local issues etc. are dealt with by the local force – God knows how much the PCC is costing each force area – it is an ever growing ivory tower. Here in North Wales the PCC is often referred to as the ‘Plaid Cymru PCC’ with the suggestion that this is a political appointment.
I just despair!
The more you meet people the more you understand why Noah took animals instead of humans
Duke – I’m not really surprised that you call my comment ‘pompous and arrogant’ – unfortunately your later comments seem to suggest that you live live in some ‘rose tinted world’ where everything is hunky dory. The reality is so different.
Perhaps that hole in the road should be filled in by a police officer – after all someone could put the job in front of them. Your drains are blocked – call ‘999’ – will they send ‘Dyno-Bobby?’
With the attitude you display to the police I am certainly not surprised that so many officer nowadays display the same arrogance that you show. Whilst I’m sure that all officers will take heart and strength from your ‘paid by the public’ comment – would it come as a surprise to you to know that officers are members of the public and also contribute as well?
The more you meet people the more you understand why Noah took animals instead of humans
D-Dan – I tend to make certain that I do not loose my valuable personal property – contactless or otherwise – because I care about my own stuff – so many don’t give a damn nowadays – it’s insured, they’ll pay out – nobody is at a loss being the predominant view. We ALL pay for this – shops add a % to each item sold to cover for theft – we pay.
I don’t think you can judge me unless you have actually dealt with L/F Property and the attitude of owners. I accept that the police are paid from public funds – but note that the each police officer also contributes to that fund. These days the powers that be have decided that CC fraud will be reported to the banks and not the police – (1) Keeps down crime numbers so the public don’t see how really bad it is (2) The bank used to report such offences to the police as 1 single crime – see (1) again – though several 100 frauds might be involved.
Don’t blame the police officer – I have been one for 30 years, I see the difficulties current cuts in wages and staff have made to general crime detection rates, the introduction of PCSOs – so that the gullible public think there’s a policeman on the streets. The closing of rural police stations, moving of specialist squads to central locations, specified opening hours of main stations …. the list is endless. Perhaps there is a realism that has got into the police system in recent years – we can’t be everything to everyone – owners have a responsibility as well.
Some years ago I did a survey on the section I was responsible for – almost 40% of my crime was directly attributable to owners who showed no concern about their possessions.
Would you prefer to see a police officer out dealing with ‘real’ crime or sitting in the police station dealing with L/F Property that the owner doesn’t give a damn about?
The more you meet people the more you understand why Noah took animals instead of humans
Alan – you have a very good point – but over time the police have become the bucket for everything that nobody else wanted to do – many many years ago it was the police’s duty to visit and watch sheep dipping at local farms and Lord knows how many other forgotten duties I wonder.
The sad truth is that looking after lost and found property is very, very time consuming – especially the found bits. More policemen have lost their jobs over Found Property problems than have ever been killed in the line of duty!
The more you meet people the more you understand why Noah took animals instead of humans
Richard – may not have read the background to your comment correctly but police do not have to be involved in F/L Property – railway stations, bus companies have their own system which has no police involvement at all. The law re ‘Theft by Finding’ only needs a reasonable person to make reasonable efforts to locate the owner. There is nothing in UK law that says lost / found property MUST be handed in to the police or even telling them you found it.
The more you meet people the more you understand why Noah took animals instead of humans
I agree. BUT based on some 20yrs experience with Lost / Found and Seized Property – we haven’t mentioned SP before have we!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Over the years I have returned items to their original owners only to be told “You took your time”, “I didn’t bother reporting it, as I knew you would return it to me if it was handed in to you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
In my days (retired 15 years ago) to get rid of a FP manky, tatty, empty purse a Superintendent had to attend (£50K+ pa), view the property, ask what had been done to see if we could find an owner, were LP books checked – if the answers satisfied him – he would authorise disposal thereof – I could be watched depositing the item into the refuse bin!!!!!!!!!! (After all I could steal it!!!!!!!!!). Could have gone back later I suppose!
That’s just getting rid of the crap – storage was another matter – generally the most awkward cupboard you could imagine – little shelving, poor light, bad access – you name it – we had it.
Seized Property is another NIGHTMARE – the police are like magpies – it might be useful – seize it ‘just in case’ – I have seen 3 Transit van loads coming in – emptying them took hours – entering them into the SP Books was another nightmare – EACH and EVERY item had to be listed individually. What do you put the stuff in afterwards? Where can you keep the big stuff? a complete NIGHTMARE!!!!!!!!
I understand my own force now uses an industrial estate storage unit – may be units by now.
I believe that owing to cost restraints there are numerous things the police could be dealing with but lost and found property is not on the list.
Police &CCom – don’t get me started – the old police committee cost very little and it worked – we now have another ivory tower in the chain where (in my case) a retired inspector can instruct a Chief Constable!
Sorry lads got to go – that bottle of pills looks too tempting! ??
The more you meet people the more you understand why Noah took animals instead of humans
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