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July 5, 2017 at 10:10 am #9899
I currently have a Sky Q system at home and a couple that I know have asked me to record them whilst they are in a singing competition in the National Eisteddfod in August. (Not my cup of tea tbh!!)
The competition will be broadcast live on S4C (part of the BBC) and they would like to record it and then have it recorded to DVD or similar for posterity. Looking at the Sky Q blurb on line – one says that there are a few exceptions to the ability to transfer stuff to mobile etc, and that is with the BBC and S4C is funded by them.
Any ideas at all please as to how I could possibly help them out?
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July 5, 2017 at 10:48 am #9900It might be available on iPlayer in which case easiest option would be to grab it after the event with get_iplayer (linux and windows). A lot of stuff is 1080p and you can get just about everything else in 720p or SD.
Looking at the iplayer webpage S4C is listed as a channel so I reckon your chances of getting it the next day are pretty good. Record it anyway – there are ways to get it off the Sky Q box, all a bit clunky though.
If you need help with get_iplayer post back.
BTW – get_iplayer will download it and save as an MP4 file (H264 video with AAC audio) – there are a number of free programs such as DVDFlick which will allow you to burn it as Video DVD)
July 5, 2017 at 11:28 am #9902It’ll be on IPlayer. All S4C stuff is except some films and the odd sporting event.
July 6, 2017 at 9:52 am #9937Anonymous
Forumite Points: 0Here’s how I would go
HDMI Spliiter to TV and video converter (while you perform this the TV needs to be on the required channel at the same time as the Video converting-on the PC)
Splitter to TV and Video Converter video converter to PC Video to PC
On recording (capture) with Video to PC the Capture Device settings are NTSC (default) need to be changed to Pal, once recorded you select Produce/Create File (choose output format)
You could record the program on SkyQ and perform the above anytime from SkyQ
The above are mainly guide lines, cheaper or better could be found.
July 6, 2017 at 10:21 am #9940Thank you one and all, it will be August when I try this and probably it will be from Sky Q as this will allow me to tape the whole ‘caboodle’ as I call the Eisteddfod. Just not my cup of tea at all.
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July 6, 2017 at 10:22 am #9941Get_iplayer is the way to go, on your lap top. It’s a simple one step process that spits out an mp4 iirc.
That way you can share it about to all that want it. Easiest way would be upload to a cloud account, Google, ms, Dropbox etc. But given the content will be copyright, I’d store a copy in my usual cloud of choice. But ad also use Mega to actually share it.
The recipients don’t need mega, but upload it there, then generate a url, and text /email / im, the url link to the recipients.
Mega has a free 50gb upload limit. So you’ll be more than cope.
Don’t try the hard, long winded way of getting of a sky box. It will mean trying to tap I’m to the box, usually means low definition, then you’ll need to record it in real time (or at least shifted time) . Think of the old recording of a music tape method.
I copied 100s of kids films of sky in the early to mid 2000, in that manner. Dvd recorder attached to the start out of the sky box. Each night I’d have to hit play on the sky box the record on the dvd recorder.
2 weeks ago I binned the dvds, about 5 or 6 large spindles, and probably months of work. I had then on a couple of hdds back in the day too, (ad that was why u was recording them off the sky box, to put on the pc) bit I know I’ve reformatted Atleast one of the hdds. Not sure where the others are now.
Long story short. Get_iplayer. Only used it about 3 times. But it’s the way to go.
July 6, 2017 at 11:58 am #9943+1 to get_iplayer.
Dwynne, you may (or may not ?) be interested to know that my grandfather was a “Druid”. {You may imagine why I put that in parentheses}. Granddad was born English in Burslem, Staffordshire and 4 generations away from Wales, but was fiercely proud of his Welsh descent and insisted upon passing that onto as many grandchildren as he could reach. Their parents, of course, had heard it all before… I am also proud of my Welsh descent, but also proud of being born British/English. He visited Wales a lot and bought the whole Druid thing, died when I was 9 years old and young enough to be impressed with his rhetoric.
As a result, I still feel just a bit torn at Welsh-English sporting contests: thanks for that, granddad!
When I got older and became interested in history, I learned that of course the whole “Modern Druid” thing is a Victorian invention, and researched into it. I learned that the Druids in ancient Britain, were so much more interesting, fascinating and totally different to the misguided souls who prance about in white gowns at the (wrong) Solstice. I just wish he had lived longer, because granddad was a founder member of the Independent Labour Party, and loved a good argument! But always had to be right, which is a Williams family trait, according to my dear SWMBO. Don’t know where she gets that from.☺?
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I'm out.July 6, 2017 at 12:16 pm #9945Thank you all for the input, I will try getiplayer and give it a go before the big day.
Bob, the Druid in the National Eisteddfod (NE) do not think they are descended from God’s chosen own. Personally I abhor the Eisteddfod and what it stands for – yes it is a forum for the Welsh to show their talents but it is also a breeding ground for nationalism. Nuff said on that.
I remember a few years ago in the local regional paper a discussion had taken place which involved ‘train spotting’ and the attire normally associated with those who love that hobby and who have to stand/sit on cold, windy platforms.
In reply a high ranking Druid from the NE commented on their attire and derided it to the extreme until someone responded that as a Druid – he walked around a field dressed in a white dressing gown or smock, wearing a white shower cap on his head whilst also sporting white wellies.
There was no response to that comment from the illustrious Druid.
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July 6, 2017 at 2:18 pm #9947As an aside, been testing another program last couple of days called youtube-dl. Downloads from iplayer, youtube, ITV and a load of other sites. Still playing so no as up-to-speed as I am with get_iplayer but early signs are very good (linux and windows).
July 6, 2017 at 4:04 pm #9952Nice one Dwynne: the biter, bitten. I hate all that Nationalist krap as well, there are just so many Nazis atm flaunting the cross of St. George, Red Dragon, Scottish Saltire and the Union Flag. They think they represent a proportion of the people, when all they really represent is the results of inadequate personalities and a poor self-image that has to hide behind a flag with fellow nutters. My SIL had a White Dragon in the car, across the parcel shelf: “It’s the Saxon Dragon.” I pointed out that his family name meant that he was probably of Jewish descent, which he confirmed and was proud of. I further said that the Saxons mostly originated in Germany and Denmark, and that there was a Saxon regiment in charge at Büchenwald concentration camp in WWII.* So Saxons were probably responsible for the torture and death of many Jews. His eyes began to glaze over when I told him that Saxons and Angles had probably fought and killed my ancestors, and taken their lands.
The flag is not in his car anymore… I also advised him to try driving through Wales with the flag showing, then park up and leave it.
*I know this because my German ex-FIL was a camp guard at Bergen-Belsen. I forgot the German for ‘misbegotten SOB’ so I had to say FIL.
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I'm out.July 6, 2017 at 4:36 pm #9957I don’t know, I just Mein Kampf, it’s all harmless fun, what could go wrong.
I actually quite liked it, once you get past all the jew hatred.
Currently outgoing through the difinitive work of WW2 (told from the Victor’s side), ‘the rise and fall of the third reich’ by William Shirer. It’d a goodie but a loooonnnnggggg’n.
July 6, 2017 at 5:50 pm #9962Duke I’ve read that book twice – a masterpiece imho – it is a real shame that towards the end of the war a lot of the papers that he used as reference for the earlier war years were destroyed (by ze Nazis) but none the less it is a really good read. Some of the more recent works (e.g Beevor’s WW2 book) have some more detail which is not a criticism of Shirer, just a fact that a lot of Soviet archives were unavailable when he (Shirer) wrote and updated his work.
July 6, 2017 at 6:36 pm #9965I’d recommend watching Heimat (current series) on Sky Arts to get a feel for how typical Germans of the 1920s/30s saw their environment and to some extent why they reacted in the manner they did. I found it interesting (and some parallels with Brexit) that the average German wanted ‘freedom’ from the bureaucratic control of foreigners!
Circling back to the Welsh nationalist bit, the best translation for Heimat is probably Hwyl!
July 6, 2017 at 7:12 pm #9968Trumps speach today in poland seems to be taken place right from the Hitler play book of points to hit in a nationalist speach.
I was reading Mein Kampf while the US election was on. And the similarities with the atmosphere with the American Right public, and what Trump was “playing to” , to Hitlers world views in the book, I found quite stark.
Especially as he was the better choice. Or rather the more sane and less corrupt of the two on offer last year.
July 6, 2017 at 7:33 pm #9969Germany between the wars was a real mess. No doubt that the punitive terms of Versailles were a recipe for disaster, throw in the Russian Revolution, Adolf and the legacy of individual pre-Reich states and bingo…..
Ian Kershaw’s biography of Hitler (two big but very readable volumes) gives a great insight, and all of the ingredients that allowed the Nazi state to thrive. Churchill’s volumes are also fascinating (especially “The Gathering Storm”) – his abridged single-volume WW2 piece is also very readable.
Ed – there wasn’t an “average German” at that period in history. There was a combustible mix of WW1 veterans, Nazis, Communists and traditional federalists. This was further complicated by the individual nationalistic traits of the Bavarians, Prussians etc.
I know that you know all this – point is – it t really, really wasn’t anything like the Brexit referendum. At all.
I don’t try and second guess remain voters (including 50% of my family) – I don’t think you should presume to pigeon-hole those who voted leave (the other 50% of my family).
July 6, 2017 at 9:08 pm #9971No need to be so touchy BL – reread my post.
I was not implying that Brexit voters were Nazi-like, I was just saying that freedom from foreign bureaucracy was a strong element of both the 1930s Germans portrayed in Heimat and the British politicians who pushed for Brexit.
Heimat in fact portrays all the ‘sorts’ of people you mention plus others including Jews and corrupt German industrialists. As it has received critical acclaim in Germany I would guess that the old generation found a lot in the series that resonated with them, but not necessarily either factual or unbiased:
“When you show the 1930s as a golden age of prosperity and excitement in the German countryside, when you are shown the Germans as victims of the war, then you inevitably find yourself asking: But what about the other side? What about Auschwitz? Where is the director’s moral judgment? To which the color filters insistently reply: ‘Remember, remember, this is a film about what Germans remember. Some things they remember in full color. Some in sepia. Others they prefer to forget. Memory is selective. Memory is partial. Memory is amoral. – Heimat wiki”
July 6, 2017 at 11:42 pm #9974Having had a German family and “lived – out” of barracks in Germany for almost 8 years, I once had an insight into several faces of the German character. From my ex-SS camp guard FIL, who had a personality dipped in dung and glossed over with pond slime, to the many good friends I made, being accepted as outside the ‘normal’ squaddie person.
I also visited Bergen-Belsen and I toured Dachaü at the same time as a group of German schoolchildren, part of a scheme which saw kids bussed in as part of their education from all over the country. British kids may go on Outward Bound or Duke of Edinburgh trips: they were taken to these camps. The result is a whole nation that feels a collective guilt, 72 years after WWII. Even the latest generation feels that guilt. It seems to me that this is just ridiculous, I don’t believe they should pass on the “sins of their fathers”, or in this case, grandfathers and great-grandfathers. Were it otherwise, we Brits would have a heck of a lot to feel guilty about.
It is never realised in Britain today, but if Lord Halifax and Oswald Mosley had their way in 1940, we would probably have seen the British Empire fighting alongside the Germans against the Soviet Union. The world would have been a very different place. Hitler is on record as stating that he did not want to go to war with Britain, and he wanted to preserve the British Empire.
BL, I have the same Churchill 6-Volume set Of the Second World War.
If any of you would like to learn what life in immediate post-war Germany was like, read “Thine Enemy” by Philip Gibbs. Long out of print, but second-hand copies are still available in some bookshops. It is an eye-opener. It also explains why the German people are so keen to keep the EU working. And why they were initially mourning the UK leaving: now they are beginning to turn another face towards us.
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I'm out.July 7, 2017 at 1:28 am #9985Hitler and that time in Germany (and the world) is a fascinating time, and there is alot of similarities today.
Putting the “bad” stuff to one side, the economic recovery of Germany always fascinated me. In such a short time, to go from nothing, to one on the best places, free of debt, strong economy, no army, to well.., strong education, the top In sciences.
When you here the muttering of the West/banks started the war to undermined what Hitler had implemented, sometime you have to think there could be something in it. Especially looking at the world today, and the constant fight of the oil/gas, gold/petro dollar.
He did have quite a bit of free labour, so that is always nice on the budget, but putting that aside, it is a minor miracle way happened from 33-8.
Also the whole poland thing isn’t as straight cut as the history books make out, (Victors get to write it etc). The Polish was persecuting and killing alot of Germans on the run up to their invasion. So I think alot of what later went on, was just sadistic revenge.
When people ask the question, what two people would you like to have to dinner. Churchill and Hitler, for me all day long. I’d love to here the first hand accounts, of what actually went on.
Also I’d like to add jesus to that list, just to see if he turned up! If he did I’d have a lot to think about. also he would make a good referee between the other two.
July 7, 2017 at 8:00 am #9988Ed – I’m finding it very tiring is all
Bob – thanks for that tip – I see it s available for under £3 on Amazon so may have a punt. Have a huge reading backlog at the moment but will put it on my list. I’ve also been recommended to watch a film called “The Lives of Others” – set in post-WW2 East Germany. I’ve acquired it but wonder if you’ve seen it in if so what you thought.
Duke – it is surprising what can be achieved in totalitarian economies – usually at great human cost. The industrialisation of Russia also happened at break-neck speed under the 5 Year Plan. A lot of the other stuff I think is conspiracy theory, revisionism etc. The West went to great lengths to try and NOT go to war with Hitler. What is true is that the carving up of countries and shifting of borders after WW1 made the whole place ripe for a war. Hitler always planned to expand East – documented it years before the war and I don’t think persecution of Germans and ethnic Germans was a motivation, an excuse maybe but not more than that.
July 7, 2017 at 9:14 am #9990And to think all of this started from a simple question I posted – MM is alive still!!??
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