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June 19, 2017 at 9:45 pm #9328
Hello All,
A mature student friend of mine has asked for some advice for a university laptop.
It will probably need windows10 and MS office to comply with the university lecturers limited exposure to computing (main subject will be food technology/science, not computing).
I was thinking something from Tesco’s unless you have a better suggestion, budget will be tight as ever.
June 19, 2017 at 9:55 pm #9329A surface tablet/laptop, and onenote. OneNote is made of lectures and meeting settings.
Mush easier to to scribble your notes Down and snap pictures of the white boards etc using a pen and one note. Especially if they can’t type fast.
One note is also great for note management. Simple set up a workbook for each subject, and open a new page for each lecture in that subject. Since my x200t died I’ve missed using onenote. It just isn’t the same with out a pen.
The latest surface pro I think is upto 4, but if your friend just wants it for office related work and browsing, I’d say say a few shackles and get the previous gen.
If your friend doesn’t get on great with the surface flip cover keyboard, she could have an external one set up for long session home use. You can link to them via USB or Bluetooth.
I had a thinkpad so there was no trade off, but I’d take the trade off on the ms keyboard for the pen functionality.
June 19, 2017 at 11:07 pm #9336Tight budget = not surface.
If it’s just for taking notes (and I agree One Note is great for organizing disparate bits and pieces) then almost anything will do.
The thing to watch out for with cheaper kit is 32GB hard drives and 2GB of ram. Neither are enough.
I would have a look at the £269 Lenovo B50-10 Intel Pentium Quad Core N3540 Processor, 15.6″ HD Screen, Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64-bit, 4GB DDR3 RAM, 128GB SSD, DVD Rewriter, USB3 | HDMI | Bluetooth, card reader
People here have Lenovo B50’s of various specs and I’ve sold a fair few. The build quality is good and the Pentium Quad + 4GB ram will be absolutely fine for office type work. The SSD means it’ll fire up quickly.
If they can get an official uni email then MS will give them Office for free, if not go to Ebay and get O2016+ for a fiver, I’ve been getting them from here
June 20, 2017 at 11:58 am #9345+1 to the Lenovo in Dave’s link. My completely tech-unsavvy missus has the B50 and loves it. Bonus is that it’s so easy to maintain in good safe nick, which is good for the house IT section (Me) SWMBO does a lot of family history and it has helped her do that much easier than the old HP did.
Later in the year I will be parting with my desktop and buying a lappy: that will be a Lenovo. They are IMO as well made or better than the equivalent HP and usually cheaper.
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I'm out.June 20, 2017 at 12:17 pm #9347The only downside to the B50-10 is storage 128GB does not leave a lot of room for video recording lectures. How about going for a second hand Ideapad?
June 20, 2017 at 12:21 pm #9349The only downside to the B50-10 is storage 128GB does not leave a lot of room for video recording lectures. How about going for a second hand Ideapad?
It has a SD slot, cards are cheap now, even 128 GB ones. Only reason I haven’t bought any is mine are mostly used in my helmet cam, it’s limited to 32GB.
June 20, 2017 at 12:25 pm #9351Good point!
June 20, 2017 at 2:15 pm #9352I have a new Lenovo V110 with a 128GB SSD. I have heaps of crap brought over from the T420 on there including a VM or two and numerous ISOs etc.
There is 44GB free. Just looked at the saved video folder on the server and my collection of the 52 Red Dwarf and 32 Thunderbirds episodes would fit in there with 20GB to spare.
I don’t think storage is going to be an issue.
June 20, 2017 at 2:43 pm #9353My lappy runs on a 120 gb ssd, I have no issues. I ran vista and 7 on a 30gb then 60gb ssdrive. The 30 was tight the 60 was fine.
With the 30gb drive I also sued a 16gb sd card. Booted min of thet ssd for about 2 years.
For uni /office 128is more than fine. It will hold a stake of media if wanted, no worries. Alot of ‘dead time’ at uni. The Most slowest pace part of my life ever was uni, it constantly angered me. You could easily fit 3 years into 2. Probly less if they halfed their extensive holidays.
If you want a grade a typing experiance, and ultra budget friendly, a referb x220 and a how an ssd in it. The quality is defo not up to par with the older x200, but still the keyboard is top notch. The need lenovos arnt a patch on them. But many normal folk, think they look old fashioned. My macbook air touting some makes fun of my thinkpads.
June 20, 2017 at 4:37 pm #9355Just thinking that food technology now probably involves a whole lot of new techniques that may not make good notebook candidates. e.g. vacuum packing, waterbath cooking, use of liquid nitrogen, nitrous oxide etc.
June 20, 2017 at 8:34 pm #9363“Food Technology” reminds me of a very (in)famous Lincolnshire female with a Food Tech degree, who invented soft ice cream, as in Mr Whippy and Mr Softee. None other than Maggie Thatcher, who invented the way to efficiently insert air into the ice cream mix, thus enabling those two companies and others, to make more profit out of less material.
And I think it is correct to say that she patented it, which may answer several questions about the Iron Lady.
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I'm out.June 20, 2017 at 9:24 pm #9365I still think something you can draw on is best. Maybe simply pen and paper. And a ms net book or chrome book to write up essays.
You can use office on a CB. But I’d use gdocs, I prefer it to Word anyway.
June 20, 2017 at 10:47 pm #9368Yes I’m a big fan of pen and paper. All my site surveys are done that way.
Use the PC for research, do the costing in a spreadsheet and the quote in a word processor.
My son did a Chemistry MSc and now a PhD and all he had was a 13″ HP laptop based on the 1.6Ghz E350 with a SSHD. He bought a drawing tablet thinking it may help with formulas and hardly used it. He’ll be writing the PhD up soon but he now has a gaming PC (sponsored by the parental units for getting a first) so I guess that’ll be used this time. AFAIK he still doesn’t own a printer, that’s what the library is for.
June 21, 2017 at 3:26 am #9370“Food Technology” reminds me of a very (in)famous Lincolnshire female with a Food Tech degree, who invented soft ice cream, as in Mr Whippy and Mr Softee. None other than Maggie Thatcher, who invented the way to efficiently insert air into the ice cream mix, thus enabling those two companies and others, to make more profit out of less material. And I think it is correct to say that she patented it, which may answer several questions about the Iron Lady.
Fake news, I’m afraid. She did no such thing.
June 21, 2017 at 7:06 am #9371I would not argue the need for a drawing pad/notebook but I think that the food technology practical sessions will probably need far more video clips than say a chemistry practical to make them more meaningful.
June 21, 2017 at 9:49 am #9375How will they be recording these lectures / practical sessions?
BTW there were no videos made of chemistry practicals. Largely because the students were doing the practicals that being the point of a practical.
If you look at a typical prospectus, say this one from Nottingham Trent:
This course will build upon and develop the skills and knowledge that you will require for management roles in the food and drink sector. The course is delivered on a one day a week basis and for some of the rest of the week you will be expected to work within the food industry and undertake independent studies, including working on your coursework. This final year top-up course has been designed to provide you with a progression route from the foundation degree in Food Science and Technology. This course will give you the opportunity to work with your industry peers. You will gain an understanding and knowledge from other food businesses by sharing your work and study experiences together. It is accredited by the Institute of Food Science and Technology. You will enhance your skills and knowledge, helping to equip you for a management role in the food sector. Successful completion of the BSc (Hons) Food Science and Technology top-up degree will assist your career progression to management levels in an industry that has a real need for food science and technology graduates.
It’s only 1 day a week, the key seems to me to be “you will be expected to work within the food industry”. That’s where you see the practical end of the business, not the classroom. That’s all about theory.
I think you’re over thinking this Ed.
June 21, 2017 at 1:21 pm #9376This day and age, all the lectures are recorded, or at the minimum the power point slides are put up online.
Even when I went we has the slides and notes put up on line. That’s why I only attended one marketing lecture. It was a a waste of time to attend the BS the guy bang on about. Quicker to scan his slides, and read the books he took the info from.
First year quants was the same. The Prof, what the worst teacher ever, you’d come out more confused than you went in. So I’d just see that the lecture topic was, and learn what I needed from external books.
Long story short, it’s unlikely they will need to record (audio or video) the lecture themselves. It will all be released to the unis online “blackboard” (or whatever they use today) at the time the lecture / tutorial begins.
They don’t recorded each one, you’ll get the past years one.
It promotes not attending lectures, but it also makes you listen to the lectures better when there, instead of frantically trying to write it all down, then only being able to read half of your notes once your home. As that was the way previously.
June 21, 2017 at 2:50 pm #9377I give up. Clearly my children have gone through University woefully under equipped, as have their peers.
But let’s go back to the last line of the original post “budget will be tight as ever”. A Microsoft Surface Pro 4 – 1TB / Intel Core i7 for £1869 http://tinyurl.com/y8ywl4k9 just isn’t going to happen.
Here’s a list of laptops under £300 at saveonlaptops http://tinyurl.com/ydypssck
June 21, 2017 at 3:32 pm #9378I agree with Dave. My lad and his friends just have standard laptops — sometimes a Chromebook — and manage just fine. Anything they don’t catch in lectures — for a recent lecture on SQL, only four of about 50 actually turned up — can be grabbed from the uni’s website. I don’t know anyone who records lectures.
June 21, 2017 at 5:02 pm #9380I was just looking at what they do at Bath.
“The University has a lecture capture service called Re:View. Content that has been recorded using this system can be viewed at the website xxx (you need to log in). Lecture capture technology allows the simultaneous recording of audio, video, powerpoint and screen capture, and allows that content to be viewed on the web, and mobile devices. Any lectures related to a Moodle course can be automatically added to the module and the presentations are restricted to the students registered to it.”
It’s quite an involved process http://www.bath.ac.uk/bucs/services/audiovisual/lecturecapture/ and there are copyright issues. It seems both in the copyright of something you may include (text from books?) and especially if it’s for public consumption. I guess Bath Uni themselves may have some sort of copyright over the whole thing too?
But the point is the student is the consumer of an online resource and that doesn’t need an expensive bit of kit.
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