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  • #8794
    Bob WilliamsBob Williams
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      @bullstuff2
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      I think most of you know that I have a Hyundai Tucson. Part of the ownership process, is a newsletter about the brand and the latest is about the history of the Group, which is now Hyandai-Kia Automotive and has become the world’s 5th largest car producer. Not bad, to say that it has only existed for 50 years. I think the Koreans are doing to the Japanese motor industry what the Japanese did to ours. If the lunatic to the North will leave them alone, that is…

      https://tinyurl.com/y82acbf5

      I have to say that I am very pleased with my Tucson, have done over 2,500 miles now and the MPG has gone from 34 to 43, continually improving. The only problem is getting SWMBO into it, but I bought a folding step for that task. Once in and travelling, if more than a couple of miles, she falls asleep. So it’s comfy enough. ?? At least it doesn’t have ‘Rain-sensitive’ wipers, which drove me mad in the C-Max.

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      #8795
      RSBRSB
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        @bdthree
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        Kia was one of the caravaners favourites back when I was caravaner. Never been in one but they did not seem that bad with there waranty deals.

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        #8798
        PlaneManPlaneMan
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          @planeman
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          I’ll be looking for a car in a year or so, hopefully I can last that long.

          As I don’t get the full mobility rate of P.I.P, rightly so, as I can walk a bit, it’ll be from savings.

          Been looking at the Kia Picanto, I think Drez had one for short while, maybe 3-5 years old. 1.25 engine, 5 door, about the 4-5K range. Love the 7 year warranty, not driven one yet but they are meant to be very good.

          #8799
          Bob WilliamsBob Williams
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            @bullstuff2
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            Kia give 7 years warranty and Hyundai 5. Check of the small print in both, there are exclusions. Can’t remember exactly what they are, but mostly paint, bodywork & floorpan I think. The warranties are transferrable to a new customer, who has to register on the Hyundai/Kia site. The reason for a long body warranty is that they use their own steel, produced from Australian ore in their own blast furnaces. No recycled steel. the Aussies supply most of Asia with steel and coal.

            First Hyundai I worked on was a Stellar. Misubishi engine: floor/chassis/suspension was all Cortina Mk IV, even to sharing suspension components. I ordered void bushes for it as Cortina pattern, which were cheaper than the factory Hyundai parts. They have come along way since then. I road tested that car and was surprised by the comprehensive instruments, accessories and features. Air con!? In a family saloon! ? Another lesson for British manufacturers of that time, not learned.

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            #8800
            Bob WilliamsBob Williams
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              @bullstuff2
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              PM my gdaughter has a used ’55 Picanto with the 1.0 Ltr engine for over a year. Very tiny boot, but she travels miles in it and travels to work every day in it. She’s a big girl and so is her BF and best mate, but she loves it and it gets her around well.

              If you are looking at that kind of size, take a look at a Hyundai i10 as well. When looking for a new Motablity car, I had a drive in the iX 20, which is high seating, a mini MPV I guess. It drove well an was quite nippy, considering the one I drove was an auto.

              Looks like the Premium SE might meet your requirements: 1.2 Ltr.     https://tinyurl.com/y7uh2ach

              Then there’s the i20, which is the ordinary (non-MPV) version of the iX 20 I drove:     https://tinyurl.com/ycbuyzcb

              I do recommend Hyundai dealerships if they are all like the Grimsby one: in 22 years of Motability cars, it’s the best dealer experience I had.

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              #8801
              The DukeThe Duke
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                @sgb101
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                You can’t go wrong with a Hyundai, they own their own steel, non of the others do, and they put more high strength steel in their cars than all the Compition. A large percentage at that.

                They make some of the best cars in the groups they are in. I really like the i40. Some of their cars arnt the prettiest or coolest, but they are good.

                Also relatively cheap, like the French lot, not being German, they throw in most of the goodies you’ll pay a fortune for in a German car.

                Glad your email is ar is working out for you bob, they are a nice car. As I said before there is two on my street. Well one now, some ran into one of them they have a loaner atm.

                I love my auto wipers on my car, they are great. My car has auto lights, including auto  high beam (which works brilliantly), auto lights*, and auto gear, a long with cruise control, it’s all making a very  lazy driver.

                 

                Auto lights can be annoying if your going through sections on tunnels, it thinks it’s day/night /day… Annoying as when it turns the lights on, the digital display goes into night mode. A pain because that digital display has my speed in it!

                But my auto high beam is fantastic. Took me a while to trust it no to blind anyone, at night in the lanes, but it works almost flawlessly. I’d say closes to 99/100 times. Which I realised is probably better than me. Who now and then would forget to turn it off till they flashed. As we all do. The auto doesn’t get it wrong in that way, just the 1/100 it will take a second or two longer than I would of done. So I’d say that’s a win for tech.

                Don’t have auto fog lights, like a common plebeian I had to turn my own light on last week. This can’t continue I’m going to write to the oem and get at fog lights retro fitted lol.

                #8803
                PlaneManPlaneMan
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                  @planeman
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                  Thanks Bob

                  #8806
                  DrezhaDrezha
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                    @drezha
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                    I still have my Picanto – 65 reg one and it’s decent enough. I’ve the SE version as well (from what I remember) and it’s been good. Only a 1L though but does the job. Auto lights is good, the Kia has that.

                    I do have to ring Kia about getting out of the PCP early though as I test drove a Golf GTE today – as part of my work, they provide a car. Downside is, I only have a single car parking space so I’ll have to get rid of the Kia. Mind, I’ll have no use for two cars at that point as the missus doesn’t drive one. The GTE is an automatic which is very different to what I’m used to!

                    "Everything looks interesting until you do it. Then you find it’s just another job" - Terry Pratchett

                    #8826
                    The DukeThe Duke
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                      @sgb101
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                      Oh Chris, is the new golf GTE The one with the hybrid motor. It’s ment to be be very good indeed. A big step up from the picanto in power, dynamics and style. (can a fair bit cooler).

                      Though personally I like today’s polo gti/gtd to the golf. I think the golf is now to fat. The polo gti I see as what the origanal gti team would of created if they was around today. Ie it’s more in the spirit if the origanal mk 1 gti.

                      One of my childhood favourite cars was a GTE just not golf, the Astra GTE, my favourite wad the xr3i. The GTE,  xr3i and Gti was all about the same, I just never like the golf Shape as a kid, always preferring the Coupe style to the boxie vw shape.

                      Now I own a Coupe, I’m so over 2 door cars, and and an defo returning to an estate next. But a quick one.

                      In a city, there is little need for a quick car, but out in the hills, I couldn’t live with a city car. Though we have just got a pergeot for the kids, and small cars have their charms too. Like a small turning circle. My gtc has the worst ever, far worse than my laguna estate had!

                      #8830
                      PlaneManPlaneMan
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                        @planeman
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                        The Polo Blue GT is the car I’d go for if I had the funds. The clever ACT 1.4 turbo is ‘enough’ power for it, not mental but certainly quick enough.

                        #8832
                        DrezhaDrezha
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                          @drezha
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                          Oh Chris, is the new golf GTE The one with the hybrid motor. It’s ment to be be very good indeed. A big step up from the picanto in power, dynamics and style. (can a fair bit cooler).

                          That’s the one.

                          I wouldn’t go for a bigger car but after driving a Focus ST as a hire car for work last year, I thought I’d try the next step up. I don’t think I’d need anything bigger than a Golf in the future. As work are paying for it, the hybrid made sense (it’s far to pricey if I was considering purchasing it myself!) It does reduce the benefit in kind I have to pay as that’s based on the carbon emissions. And it’s been encouraged to make the most of the car allowance so I was looking at the hot hatch type cars as I don’t want what the other engineers have (Lexus, Jag, BMW’s – all saloon’s and far bigger than what I’d want).

                          Even now, I’m wondering if the Golf is to big!

                          "Everything looks interesting until you do it. Then you find it’s just another job" - Terry Pratchett

                          #8837
                          The DukeThe Duke
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                            @sgb101
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                            The golf isn’t that big, I just think it’s to big for the Golf. (if that makes sense). It’d about the same size as mine.

                            I’m a fan of lager saloon cars, but if I had to zip around a city I’d probably go for Fiesta St 200, now that’s a hot hatch, with city car abilities. The Ford interior is dated now, it’s overdue a refresh.

                            I’m getting a skoda Octavia estate vrs 230, I need a big boot and back doors ,im so over a small car (even thou its hardly small). I mention Skoda as it had the same dash as the golf, given its the same platform and dash, plus the Vrs shares the same diff and suspensions etc up as the gti and up (not vw up lol) platform.

                            I’m now wrestling with the idea of getting the all wheel drive variant, don’t need it, but 230 bhp through the front wheels is high, and I’ve never had an awd car.

                            Still have a year on my lease, so I have plenty of time to decide. The clincher will be how much I have saved up, and if I can get a deal on the AWD.

                            The good thing about the golf is it’s classless, like the original mini and the landeover defender, all cars that look good in any setting, posh or poor alike. So even though it’s not the mid level saloon your colleges have opted for, it wont stand out as inferior. Will look ad good in year one as year 4, and unlike the Lexus and jag, which will age fast.

                             

                             

                            #8842
                            DrezhaDrezha
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                              @drezha
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                              Yeah, I think it’ll be a decent enough car for the next three years anyhow, just have to order it next week after I figure out the extras I want to add. I’ve an additional £112 a month to add some extras I think so I’ll see what they offer and what’s worth the extra cash.

                              "Everything looks interesting until you do it. Then you find it’s just another job" - Terry Pratchett

                              #8845
                              The DukeThe Duke
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                                @sgb101
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                                Iirc the GTE trim is basically gti trim, I know the skoda and seats now come with android auto/Apple play, so unless you want leather seats (I wouldn’t, sticky or cold), there is nothing really of worth to add.

                                I’d be tempted to up the alloys, as it looks way better with a bigger more low profile tyre, but the downfall of a larger wheel is added tyre roar. My car has 19″ and at 80mph the road noise is a bit much.

                                The at GTE is a good car, a big jump in power, maybe a touch more than the focus st you had. It will defo have more diesel like low down torque given the electric motor, filling in the torque profile. You’ll have to re learn all your breaking and acceleration points. It will go, and stop, much quicker than the kia, and do it in a more refined way.

                                I just done a 40 mile round trip in the pergeot, my girl drove to work and I drove it home, the novelty of the small 1.1 litre manual city car has warn off. Still love the turning circle.

                                If I was ordering one (I’d go the polo) I’d go pearlescent white and black alloys. The rest standard.

                                My Octavia will be mat grey and black alloys. One day….

                                #8849
                                JayCeeDeeJayCeeDee
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                                  @jayceedee
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                                  Yeah, I think it’ll be a decent enough car for the next three years anyhow, just have to order it next week after I figure out the extras I want to add. I’ve an additional £112 a month to add some extras I think so I’ll see what they offer and what’s worth the extra cash.

                                   

                                  Maybe spend some having a Tracker fitted. Flashy motor??………Manchester??………….. you just never know!!!! The motor and the batteries are easily converted “currency” in certain circles.

                                  #8851
                                  DrezhaDrezha
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                                    @drezha
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                                    The tracker may depend. I think there is an option but if it’s an ongoing cost, it might not be covered under the work deal. Was looking at the keyless entry option and perhaps some perks such as the dynamic lighting and auto headlight adjust. And potentially lane assist.

                                    "Everything looks interesting until you do it. Then you find it’s just another job" - Terry Pratchett

                                    #8852
                                    PlaneManPlaneMan
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                                      @planeman
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                                      If you go for any of the fancy pants options, like lane assist, test drive a car with it.

                                      One of my mates had a Audi with lane assist and it drove him mental. Lucky for him it was a ‘bridge’ car, in between his old company car and the new one.

                                      #8853
                                      Bob WilliamsBob Williams
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                                        @bullstuff2
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                                        Steve I have a light feature on the Tucson which lights up the side of a bend: when driving around a RH bend in the dark, they automatically light up the RH side of the bend: same when driving around the LH side of a bend – LH side lights up. I was told about this by the Dealer rep, but forgot. First time out it was a surprise, first bend was a RH one. Waited until the next LH bend and SWMBO says, “Someone shining a light at us!” Kept my face straight until next LH bend: “There it goes again!” Had to laugh and explain, got the Silent Treatment for the next few miles. ?? But it is a useful feature around here, tight country lanes and high hedges. The light doesn’t follow the bend, it just comes on at 90º to the car and lights up the whole side with a spread of light.

                                        Being a bit higher than most cars, the lights carry a good way, so I tend to leave a gap of about 4 cars between ours and lower cars. Two nights ago, returning late with Gdaughter and a pillock in a clapped-out old Escort decided to tailgate me, flashing to overtake on a bendy road. I let him go then followed him at a good distance down a long straight, with main beam and driving lights on. He was flogging that poor little Escort to death, I just stayed the same distance, about 4 cars, lit up like a Blackpool tram in September. Eventually he turned off. Granddaughter – “Granddad you’re as daft as my mum!” – “Where do you think she gets it from?” I said.

                                        Cars getting fatter, I know what you mean. The new Ka is the size of an old Fiesta, Fiesta now as big as an old Focus, new Focus almost as big as the original Mondeo. The Mondeo is a lovely motor, but I cannot get in and out of them, they are just too low.

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                                        #8854
                                        Bob WilliamsBob Williams
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                                          @bullstuff2
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                                          If you go for any of the fancy pants options, like lane assist, test drive a car with it. One of my mates had a Audi with lane assist and it drove him mental. Lucky for him it was a ‘bridge’ car, in between his old company car and the new one.

                                          I have that on the Tucson. Used it once, switched it off. Also have “Hill Descent”, which drops the speed down to 5mph if you switch it on for a steep downwards incline. Again, used once, switched off. I can always drop a couple of cogs on the auto box. Pointless. Good thing about the Tucson is that all the daft gadgets can be switched off. But I am getting used to the Stop-Start now and I like it. If I don’t want it, I just slide into Neutral and the engine carries on running. Stopping on a downward incline means it does not work, the message “Stop Start (or similar) conditions not met” comes up. Good thing for the auto box too.

                                          I don’t miss the Turbo that the C-Max had, the Tucson CRDi engine is poky enough for me and it’s a smooth drive.

                                           

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                                          #8855
                                          The DukeThe Duke
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                                            @sgb101
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                                            The auto lights and wipers etc should be stander on that spec. Key less entry I’m not sure about, but I wouldn’t pay extra for it, as you need the key on you anyway. Plus with my old Renault I had a “posh key card” and it was more pain that it was worth.

                                            Money would be better spent on Apple carplay/android auto if that doesn’t come as standered.

                                            Lane assist is a pita if it’s an option avoid it. The issue is it beeps and tugs on the wheel when you cross a white line, sounds obvious, but, in everyday life your crossing white lanes all the time. The system is stupid and shouldn’t engage untill your doing 55 (motorway speeds) when you don’t want to be drifting over the lines.

                                            Like parking sensors the can’t be set to off, only disable them for a short time. A good idea yet to be implemented well.

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