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June 1, 2017 at 10:46 pm #8345
No problem with the Florida coppers nicking him – but just seen the official daschcam footage on Sky news that they (coppers) released of his “walk the line” and “alphabet” tests – struggling to see why that should be public. I have zero interest at all in golf and don’t especially like the bloke from what I’ve seen, but what good does this do? Its here too – could understand if it was a passer by on their phone but it almost seems like the police are pimping this…..
June 1, 2017 at 11:03 pm #8346The land of the free?
Good point. :good:
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June 2, 2017 at 8:17 am #8349The US has a very different system, and one designed to protect the rights of the common citizen. Evidence is never concealed unless it is deemed capable of causing a genuine demonstrable injury to the rights of individuals or the course of justice. Straight out of their constitution, it is a law designed to support press reporting and to prevent the State concealing facts from the public. It is an intrinsic part of their checks and balances system. Obviously it can harm reputations, but the Constitution would rule that it is better that the public at large see things for what they are.
It is very different in the US.They may speak English but their mind-set is totally different, and in essence follows the ‘Devil take the hind-most’ rule. It would appear that Tiger is now a valid ‘hind-most’ target.
June 2, 2017 at 6:36 pm #8387It’s hard to feel soft for someone so privileged, however he was once top of world, he is far from that now. He obviously has some demands, plus his back is finished. He knows his best years are behind him, and the press are only intrested in his ills and no more his golf.
So in a way I do have sympathy for him. But like the old saying goes, money doesn’t buy you happiness, but I’d rather be crying in a £100k merc than a £100 Ford Ka. ?
June 2, 2017 at 7:20 pm #8396Irrespective of what he was, when he was and how much $$$$ he had, he’s a drunk driver and has the potential to kill someone.
Famous or unknown – no difference.
When you see a car with dead innocent victims inside – it brings drink drivers home to you. 😥
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June 2, 2017 at 8:09 pm #8402Seems that Tiger is getting some support and sympathy. Have to say that I agree with most of this:
However, I do not condone drunken driving. I have never forgotten as a young squaddie, having to visit a soldier’s wife and baby whilst on a spell of Regimental Police. He had smashed his BMW 1602 into a wall blind drunk, killed himself, his mate died in surgery. Both had blood tests, both loaded. I had to take a screaming baby from a collapsed 19 yo mother, it was one of the worst nights of my life. MP’s went to the other wife’s married quarter, took her there in time to see him die.
Drunken driving can destroy several lives at once. But in Tiger’s case, he “blew zeroes” and was suffering “an unexpected reaction to prescribed medication“. https://tinyurl.com/y8cy47t2
So before we criticise the guy, maybe give him some leeway. His former famous, wealthy life is all gone and the public that once loved him, is kicking him while he’s down. Not just an American thing either: look at all the British celeb’s and sports stars who have been pilloried and hated by the media and public.
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I'm out.June 2, 2017 at 8:20 pm #8403If it was medication he should have tested it before even contemplating driving. I have a delayed reaction to my methotrexate which makes me very drowsy anywhere from 6-12 hours after I take it. If I have to drive on the day I’m due to take it I have to delay it. It’s not rocket science.
Driving under the influence, drugs or booze, is unacceptable.
June 2, 2017 at 10:25 pm #8410Yea it was prescribed tablets.
As we now know many her was born before 1957 :scratch: bit this means we have a gout of people that have their fair sure of legal drugs. I know my back tablets, have little effect on my daily life. Bit if my brother in law takes them, when hurt) he describes rooms as melting around him. Not to mention alot of derision pills basically cars you to the point of sleep. Both cases it’s like talking to a very drink person.
May Woods prescription wad safe, but he may of been in extreme pain, there is days I double up, add to that he may of been down and doubler Ed up of the depressants, and less speculate a couple of whiskeys. This usually normal day, with the added extra drugs, could of changed a routeen daily drive into, well, a death trap.
However the book stops at him, if I’ve over medicated, and feel high, I won’t drive. Bit of your clinically depresses, basic logical thinking goes out the winter.
My wife struggled with depression for many years, first post natal, and now she has her ups and down, cos of the cancer. And when in full swing, there is no talking to a person in such A state.
He will probably need care from one of these detox places that are now cool on La.
June 3, 2017 at 12:11 am #8412The law on drug driving does not differentiate between legal or illegal drugs – many people fail to understand that many prescribed legal drugs can put them into the category of ‘drug driving’ if used correctly and most certainly if taken incorrectly.
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June 3, 2017 at 7:45 am #8419The law on drug driving does not differentiate between legal or illegal drugs – many people fail to understand that many prescribed legal drugs can put them into the category of ‘drug driving’ if used correctly and most certainly if taken incorrectly.
True, but you would need to read all the very small print on the leaflet inside the packet to find that out. I currently have a staph infection of a sinus following a tooth extraction that went wrong and was given a course of both antibiotic and antimicrobial drugs. There are no big warning notices on the outside of either packet.
I have to be honest. If I had been given these when thirty years younger I would just have read when and how many pills to take, then done so without a second thought. However being a bit of a distrusting barsteward with respect to drugs I now read the small print, and hidden in the antimicrobial leaflet was a warning that just about ticks all the boxes on not using while a driver: It causes sleepiness, affects coordination and reaction speed, and may cause hallucinations (It disappointingly has none of these affects on me!). It finishes by the usual warning about not using machinery which I presume includes cars.
My bottom line to this is that while I totally agree with the necessity of this UK law there really should be a change in the packet design for drugs known to impair driving ability, otherwise the 40 years old me could easily get into trouble without even knowing the risk.
June 3, 2017 at 10:13 am #8426The law may not differentiate between legal and not legal, that is black or white, your in control or not.
However public opinion should, and we don’t know the full circumstances that led up to the break of law, while under the influence of pre riled drugs.
He could of simply take one extra back pill that sent him over the edge, or may be a good extra depressant. I know both will said potential drowsiness, if it occurs don’t drive. They don’t say don’t drive at all. So it’s down to the user. If he has been taking his cocktail for months/years, he will have a high tolerance. (I know, I take back tablets that get my BiL high as a kite. Dog bite incident).
Maybe a 3rd they got introduced to his perspiration, and it’s reacted badly.
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He could just be abusing legal drugs, and his intent was to get high and drive.
The point is, he has broken the law, but the public shouldn’t be quick to judge, as it’s a huge grey area, and not all bad things are done through bad intent.
I hate gossip, and gossip news, so stories like this really piss me off. No one should care, no one, also I hate that people without full facts judge others.
I’m so glad I was born a man, I’d of never of coped as a women.
June 3, 2017 at 6:19 pm #8458I’m so glad I was born a man, I’d of never of coped as a women.
Can we ask the Duchess for confirmation Steve? :yahoo:
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I'm out.June 3, 2017 at 7:25 pm #8461EdP – whilst I agree in principle, whilst driving the onus is on the driver to ensure that he is safe to do so. We know that the D/D limit is 35 microgrammes but it’s up to the driver to know when to stop.
Talking about this in isolation is OK, just attend a fatal accident, like I had to several times, and you appreciate that talking in a forum and looking at the blood is a whole different world.
The more you meet people the more you understand why Noah took animals instead of humans
June 3, 2017 at 7:39 pm #8463Dwynne no real arguments from me, but as I said a packet design change to include a big ‘DO NOT DRIVE’ warning/icon would be a sensible NHS requirement. Small print (and it IS ruddy small) is easily overlooked and literacy is not a legal driving requirement.
June 3, 2017 at 7:56 pm #8465There is very few prescription drugs that say “Di not drive”.. Most advise against it.
June 3, 2017 at 8:40 pm #8470True Steve, but I think I would have little excuse driving having taken a drug known to affect coordination, drowsiness, reaction speed and cause possible hallucinations! Although I’m 90% sure I’m not impaired (based on playing Witcher) I cannot really be certain, so I will not drive for the next few weeks. However, as it apparently had no impact on me I would not know there was even a risk if I had not read the small print. In any case isn’t ‘operating machinery’ synonymous with ‘driving a car’, that would be how I would read it.
As a society we nanny most things and there are some I totally disagree with, but at least I am able to make a concious decision to ignore those I personally deem silly. This is one where I think a bit of nannyism could really improve road safety as most people ignore or overlook small print.
June 4, 2017 at 1:18 am #8480This is a VERY difficult matter for those of us who have to take prescribed medicines – side effects / after effects – if after taking medication you know that for, say 4 hours, you’re going to be zonked – keep well clear of the car. However if you have to take that medication 3/4 times/day – stop driving until you have ended the course of treatment. Many people think that “I don’t use cannabis/cocaine etc. etc., so it doesn’t affect me” – sorry you’re wrong – it also includes presc meds.
I would say that one of the biggest and possibly hidden problem on the UK road are people who drive when under the influence of prescribed medication – knowingly or unknowingly.
The more you meet people the more you understand why Noah took animals instead of humans
June 4, 2017 at 2:56 pm #8501My old X4 rig is now in the local open prison running a 4 CCTV camera system and SIP server to give them VOIP between three buildings without digging a trench. The X3 is a standby machine for the charity but I know it’s only got a 760G mobo.
June 5, 2017 at 7:19 pm #8639My old X4 rig is now in the local open prison running a 4 CCTV camera system and SIP server to give them VOIP between three buildings without digging a trench. The X3 is a standby machine for the charity but I know it’s only got a 760G mobo.
I’m sure that Tiger Woods will be happy to know that ???
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