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  • #69884
    Ed PEd P
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      It looks as though Intel have totally lost their ‘Gamer’ tag. The new Ryzen 7950X has a boost clock speed of 5.7GHz and 80Mb of cache while not being a chip toaster like Intel. It is not too surprising that some are now positioning Intel as the next ‘Kodak’ (you do still vaguely remember the rudderless ship that was Kodak I guess!).

      More details on AMD at El Reg

      #69889
      Dave RiceDave Rice
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        @ricedg
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        Hoorah! LGA sockets, no more bent pins! Intel need to get their prices sorted out pronto.

        As usual, I am more interested in what’s going to happen at the cheaper end, but TBH 4C/8T NUC style machines are now my go-to for most things. I’ve been hearing good things about the Beelink range and the Asus PN’s are still like rocking horse poo if you don’t need an R7.

        #69892
        wasbitwasbit
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          @wasbit
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          At the real cheap end of the market are refurb (or not) Optiplex 3050 Micros, core i3, i5 & i7  but word has got out & the prices are rising from the £80 a couple of months back. They also come in Small Form Factor & small tower versions.

          I’m in the process of swapping my ancient Windows 8.1 Gigabyte tower to a 3050 SFF. Cloned the old Windows SSD to an NVMe & cloned a 750GB drive to a used 1TB spinner for programmes & data. Windows self activated & all seems to be working well.

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          wasbit

          Rig 1: Optiplex 3050 SFF
          Rig 2: Asus ROG G20CB (rebuilt wreck)
          Rig 3: HP Elitebook 8440P

          Dear Starfleet, hate you, hate the Federation, taking Voyager. - Janeway

          #69896
          Dave RiceDave Rice
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            @ricedg
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            Yep, the market is flooded with Optiplex at the moment. I’m sat on some HP 4th Gen Pentiums I refurbished as they are probably worth more to me as test machines than trying to flog them at the moment. All have 8GB, an SSD and a 1TB spinner and are fine, until you compare them to the i3-12100 with 3 x 4 NVMe I just built for a customer…

            Dells are built like tanks and will last and last. The problem comes if you want to add a hard drive and find you need a caddy, or the proprietary PSU breaks.

            #69900
            Ed PEd P
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              @edps
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              I picked up a Beelink for my wife. They give excellent tech support (I was adding an extra SSD and had a minor problem). The little box runs fast and cool and SWMBO is very happy with it.

              #69901
              keith with the teefkeith with the teef
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                @thinktank
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                I would very much have liked SAS SSD support on the new socket with PCI-E 5 and all that, like from server mobo’s. Its about time our gear caught up with server mobo’s, well for SSD’s that is, dont think I want 20,000rpm spinner. 🙂

                 

                #69905
                wasbitwasbit
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                  Caddy for the 3050 SFF, or rather 3.5″ to 2.5″ bay converter was £8.50 & it holds 2 x 2.5″ drives. The problem is there are not enough SATA ports so would have to disconnect the DVD drive if I wanted to use 2 drives.

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                  wasbit

                  Rig 1: Optiplex 3050 SFF
                  Rig 2: Asus ROG G20CB (rebuilt wreck)
                  Rig 3: HP Elitebook 8440P

                  Dear Starfleet, hate you, hate the Federation, taking Voyager. - Janeway

                  #69911
                  Dave RiceDave Rice
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                    @ricedg
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                    Non RAID PCIe SATA cards are pretty cheap these days. £15 for a 2 port, £30 for 4.

                    #69915
                    keith with the teefkeith with the teef
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                      @thinktank
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                      Thanks for the bone and here is the man I need for the job.

                      https://tinyurl.com/4z9bf57e

                      Yep, when I get on the next platform 4x2TB nvme in raid will be where its at via the 2nd hand market. recently got me a 2TB 2nd hand Samsung which appears to come with a ram drive. lol. It works, all my old stuttering games have been put on it. The wost offender A/C Odyssey is as smooth as a baby s bum.

                      #69950
                      Dave RiceDave Rice
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                        @ricedg
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                        It now appears that all the non K 13th will in fact be based on Alder Lake giving another boost to AMD. They of course started this game of using old tech in new ranges.

                        #69951
                        Ed PEd P
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                          @edps
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                          I found an interesting under the hood comparison between Intel and AMD chip architectures. Chiplets is the new CPU in-word.

                          link

                          #69952
                          keith with the teefkeith with the teef
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                            @thinktank
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                            I am pretty stocked about what AMD will be releasing next CPU/MOBO/GFX and DDR5 prices are almost at DDR4

                            It looks like the old days when compute power went up 50% ish annually  . I think this will most likely be a one off.

                            Word is 70% like for like.

                            Yeah, as if we will see.

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