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  • #69672
    RSBRSB
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      @bdthree
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      I eventually found a job after the move to Saltburn. Nothing special, just assembling some car parts, nice and steady. Had to have a medical when starting which revealed high blood pressure “220 over 120”, Diabetes “Type 2” too much iron, and my kidneys playing up. All treatable though so not too fussed. Juts have to reduce the beer intake which is the kicker! Plenty of meds to take every day so I am rattling :).

      Other than that everything is good and it seems the forum is behaving.

      Americans: Over Sexed, Over Payed and Over here, Wat Wat!

      #69673
      keith with the teefkeith with the teef
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        @thinktank
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        I eventually found a job after the move to Saltburn.

        Silly me I read Saltburn as Saturn.

        Based on your post that would have made for the perfect SCI-FI.

        #69675
        Ed PEd P
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          @edps
          Forumite Points: 39

          Glad to hear your news, and the fact that you had a medical. Thanks to the underhand privatization of GP practices and the Brexit caused lack of GPs it is now very difficult to get these necessary routine checks, and 220/120 is high enough to cause a lot of concern.

          If you now get any chest pains, or a nagging left shoulder -> upper arm pain don’t shrug them off, dial 111 and they will probably tell you to dial 999 for an ambulance.  It pays to have a packet of 300mg aspirins in your house and a couple of aspirin in your wallet/pocket as the current NHS advice is to take one 300mg aspirin while you wait the three hours for the ambulance to turn up. 🙁

          https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/heart-attack/

          #69676
          JayCeeDeeJayCeeDee
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            @jayceedee
            Forumite Points: 230

            Good news on the job and settling in OK, less so with the health!!

            I also had high blood pressure diagnosed 3 years at about 160/120 but with daily tablets ( 5mg felodipine ) that’s down to 145/85 now. It’s annoying how your body reacts to the things you enjoy and they end up on the sh1t list!! All part of getting old(er).

            Other than hugely better, how’s life at the seaside comparing to Bradford?? Even living in London’s suburbs, especially working in London, I noticed the change of pace and other people’s attitude – so much more placid and easy going as opposed to the hectic scrum before!! Drivers actually stop and give way with a smile and mostly either thank with a smile or a wave if you have – an absolute sea-change from London and the M25!!

            #69677
            RichardRichard
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              @sawboman
              Forumite Points: 16

              Glad you are more settled and have had a medical check. It is unfortunate that revealed some problems, but better now when you can get treatment than after something bad. ED is only catching up with the news, GPs remained private from the start of the Parochial-* Health Service back on the 5th July 1948, I would like to say I remember it happening, but it did not make so much difference to my 18-month-old self! I believe that many pharmacies can do BP checks, mine is just starting ear syringing and hearing checks, “Pardon!”, I said hearing checks, sorry old joke. Pharmacies are also privately owned. Sadly, GPs are disappearing faster than the dodo, happily ours is still in business, though not as sharp as it could be any more, too many part-timers and, I suspect, a few vacancies. The practice nurses can do BP checks and advise on diabetes, but you have to engage with them. Your BP is far too high. The current recommendations are  135/85 for an upper limit target, mine is usually below those, but it takes a combination of two different tablets to get there. After years of badgering haematologists, I had the less commonly checked blood factors tested, (I had specific reasons). The one I was suspecting was OK, it affects both children, but a related clotting risk was found, so the GP started treatment three weeks ago. The high BP and this factor were probably what ended up killing my mother. Sorry about your iron issue, mine was low for years, but I was only told by accident, so I took steps to boost mine. Is there a reason for your elevated level, there is a specific blood condition that might be behind your issue.

              *It is a series of locally linked parochial fiefdoms, jealous of their own activities, national it is NOT!

              #69678
              Ed PEd P
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                @edps
                Forumite Points: 39

                I’ll admit that my comment on GP practices was ‘loose’. What has really impacted on the quality of service in this area was three or four excellent group partnerships being bought out by an American company and merged into one faceless and impersonal mega group practice that has policies  which require at least three weeks notice of being ill, and passing an Internet test before seeing a live person! Failure to be able to competently use a smart phone automatically puts you at the back of the queue.

                With that off my chest, Richard’s information is good, and it is worthwhile if Lee found the location of such services and did a weekly check of BPs. BPs can go up and down like a yo-yo. If you are only checking weekly, do try and do it at roughly the same day/time, and make sure that you rest a bit before being tested. Don’t worry about a single result too much, the trend is often more important.

                Some medication works well, others do not and can have nasty side effects. Its worth checking if yours suits you.  You should definitely read the scrap of paper that comes with your meds and check if you get any of the side effects. An irritating cough is a common side effect.

                 

                #69679
                PlaneManPlaneMan
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                  @planeman
                  Forumite Points: 196

                  Good news that your settled and got a job.

                  The health issues are not so good but at least you know about them now and get sorted out.

                  #69680
                  Les.Les.
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                    @oldles
                    Forumite Points: 42

                    Well, the title is right, it has been a while. At least all the house aggro is now behind you.

                    Still on the barge?

                    Regarding blood pressure, a testing device is quite cheap. I bought a fairly good model at least 15 years ago and I do periodic checks. About two years ago, it went up, so I saw quack and he added another type to prescription. I have been taking Amlodipine (sounds similar to yours) for 15 plus years, but now have Ramipril as well. Figures of 120 to 135 over 70 to 80 are current results.

                    Last year I was phoned after a (nominally annual) blood test. I was told my sodium was low.  20 years ago a friend advised me to drink more water (because she believed in it) which I did. Big improvement in sleep, not waking up from bad dreams, always desperate for a pee. I think I had been overdoing it, so after considering his comments, I cut down by about half on how much I drank when I woke up. Not had a retest, but I think it will be OK now. I had been getting quite a few early morning cramps (legs), and after a couple of weeks of reducing the water, I realise that had stopped.

                    When you get to my age (81 this month) you need to try to be ahead of what is going on, i wasn’t!

                    best wishes, Les.

                    #69681
                    JayCeeDeeJayCeeDee
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                      @jayceedee
                      Forumite Points: 230

                      I bought one of THESE for home checking.

                      They’re great, self-checking for correct sleeve fitting, bought mine Christmas 2018 and it’s on the same batteries. You just have to chill and stay still while it sets up and reads. Very quick really.😃👍

                      #69682
                      RichardRichard
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                        @sawboman
                        Forumite Points: 16

                        Ed is right about some blood pressure tablets working better than others. I have been through most of the list and had problems with many of them. Not as bad as those of my wife, who ended up with anaphylaxis, caused by Ramipril. I stopped Ramipril after the coughing issue ED referred to. Now I still cough, (I had a lung function test yesterday), results awaited. Currently, I am on Amlodipine and Lercandipine, which are working okay for the blood pressure, though it is still highly volatile. Most days it is good, but sometimes bad, though not as bad as RSB. I did have the low sodium but a few minor changes, including less fluid have helped with that, though if anything the cramp at night and when walking is getting progressively worse. The pains in my joints have been joined by pains in the tendons and in many muscles, hey ho, noni no.

                        I think ED’s comments about his local GP practices being bought up does represent an issue. Being GP owned they can be bought and sold and far too many GPs are leaving, either shutting down their practices or selling up and running away. This is down to a range of issues, the pension/tax problem, being one, but also the grand paper chase issue being another.

                        I now refer to my wife’s terminal stage 4 cancer treatment as a welcome into the world of DIY medicine where you do not get the scheduled blood tests because a letter told you to do so and you are there, you have to chase down someone who can set them up on the day. I call it the parochial health service, because we have a 3 to 5 hour round trip to get the damned test, plus a conversation with the oncologist that could be done by telephone. If I sound ratty, I am, my wife has had some good treatment, she had 7 brain tumours operated on via the so-called Gamma knife option two months back, a scan two weeks ago still has no indication of success or failure. She is disturbed and needs to know. I must now sign off, I can barely see the keyboard or string letters together, but perhaps you can understand why I am rarely here.

                        E&OE for the above reasons!

                        #69684
                        Ed PEd P
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                          @edps
                          Forumite Points: 39

                          I was taken off Amlodipine because it cratered my normally low sodium levels and frightened the GP. If you stay on it ask for regular blood checks – extreme tiredness is one symptom of very low sodium, death is another!.

                          For me it was a real bummer to be taken off that drug as otherwise it was the best I’ve used.

                          #69685
                          RichardRichard
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                            @sawboman
                            Forumite Points: 16

                            Correction, I was on amlodipine at one time. However, it was stopped for a reason I no longer remember. Perhaps it was my sodium level, as ED suggested, it can cause such problems and I did. My second tablet BP tablet is Losartan Potassium, this combination is working for me at the moment.

                            Without careful checking of the packets, a familiar name, incorrectly, stuck in my mind. My experience of BP tablets is like many other drugs, some are suitable and work without objectionable side effects, and some really are not suitable. Unfortunately, I have a history of abreactions, sedatives may produce strong reverse effects and some treatments, e.g. tramadol are totally ineffective, so useless. Cocodamol was slightly effective, but it is metabolised to morphine and can show in blood tests for a long time. I had other issues as well, so I strictly limit its use. Given my experiences, addiction to either was never a risk on my timeline.

                            #69688
                            Ed PEd P
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                              @edps
                              Forumite Points: 39

                              but also the grand paper chase issue being another.

                              I have a number of friends who are or were in various public sector jobs (GPs, Teachers,Social Services) bar none they all complain(ed) about being snowed under with non-productive paper-work which is supposed to prove either that they had done their job properly, or to provide some sort of audit trail for management. Normally what was being audited was only of passing relevance to their actual job.

                              I used to work for a US company that was one of the first to adopt metrics as a management tool (IIRC it was McKinsey that forced it down our throat). We struggled with the additional non-productive work load for years before realizing that  90% of the metrics were useless, and were just Auditor fodder. After some years of frustration our business metrics were vastly simplified, and used purely as a management tracking tool, and a way of focusing on critical issues. Unfortunately I get the impression that our Public Sector systems are still twenty years behind getting to that point.

                              Integrated systems were one of the tools that enabled my old company to streamline things, but our Civil Service plus Systems is just a way of throwing money into the pockets of favored companies with nothing at the end of the day.  Maybe Dave knows of a Government system that works efficiently and productively, but I certainly do not know of one.

                              #69689
                              Les.Les.
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                                @oldles
                                Forumite Points: 42

                                I missed something in previous message. The GP did say last year that (yes) I should take a bit extra salt. However I simply kept forgetting. Then a bright idea. I now buy 6 packs of Walkers “ready salted crisps”, and consume one late at night, but before eating, I shake more salt all over it. That is probably just as important as the less water aspect. It is a pleasant and easy way to be certain of increasing salt intake.

                                If I read the above replies correctly, am I to understand that amlodipine causes low sodium levers?

                                Les.

                                #69694
                                Ed PEd P
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                                  @edps
                                  Forumite Points: 39

                                  Yep it does, but apparently causing low sodium (Hyponatremia) is common to many calcium channel blockers.  Medical Link

                                  Like many medications BP pills work by poisoning you, and may cause unwanted side effects. That is why I suggested to Lee that he carefully read the bit of paper that comes with his medication. If he or you experience any of the side-effects that are detailed your first port of call in these days should be your pharmacy. (I haven’t yet read any script that doesn’t say ‘upset stomach’!)

                                  #69699
                                  Ed PEd P
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                                    @edps
                                    Forumite Points: 39

                                    Apparently 12% of those over 75 have low sodium levels (8% of those under 60). It appears to me that the medical practitioners who objected to the mandatory reduction of salt in  foods may well have been correct in saying more people might die from low salt levels than will be saved by lower blood pressure in the 10% of population at risk.

                                    So Les  and anyone else in the low sodium category, enjoy your salted crisps/peanuts but do abstain from taking your blood pressure for a couple of hours to allow your body to handle the salt as it will add 20 points or so to your readings .

                                    #69701
                                    RSBRSB
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                                      @bdthree
                                      Forumite Points: 5,183

                                      My sodium levels are very high so hopefully the mentioned drug will help to bring it down 🙂

                                      Americans: Over Sexed, Over Payed and Over here, Wat Wat!

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