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April 22, 2021 at 6:39 pm #68184
It’s now 4 weeks since I got my first motability car, the Ford Puma ST Line Vignale 155 mHEV with driver assistance pack. Just the Puma from now on.
I’m amazed with how well it handles and the in-gear grunt it has. It’s quick of the line but not hot-hatch quick. The battery fills in the torque gap caused by the big turbo on the little (1 litre) engine. I have the battery regen on the highest setting and on all but the very steepest hill it slows you down significantly without using the brakes.
The B and O 10 speaker system is epic but a bit wasted on me as I’m not a fan of loud tunes. The blind spot monitoring is great, saved a f-wit on a bike who decided it was great idea to nip down the drivers side of my car when I was turning right. The assisted parking works well under the right circumstances, handy when I’m tired but mostly ignored. Parking camera is amazing, can change the viewpoint and it’s WAY clearer than on the one on my Swift Sport.
Only issues I’ve had was a luggage hook in the boot snapped clean off with just my rucksack hanging off it, about 2KG at the time. Took it to the dealers and they agreed it was a bit strange but it was a non-warranty part so went halves with me on the costs. Cost me £46 fitted which involved removing a fair bit of trim from the passenger side of the boot. Other issue was the infotainment screen doing a BSOD on me after an update. Did the tried and tested switch it off for a while, restart, and all was well.
The boot is huge for a car this size, 2 level boot floor and the ‘megabox’ which is a deep, large depression where the spare wheel would have gone in years gone by. But it’s bigger than that, made of plastic and can hold 70KG of weight. And it has a drain plug so you can rinse it out. I took my mum to get a load of plants that would have made her Fiat 500 stinking and it took 3 minutes to clean it out.

1600 miles so far and almost 43 MPG, that’s a lot of urban and a fair bit of back road thrashes as the Welsh restriction on travel ended the Saturday after I got it. Been going a bit mad.
I’d recommend one to anyone, even the bog standard, lower power non-hybrid version.
April 22, 2021 at 10:26 pm #68186Nice looking cars the new Pumas. I always wondered who bought the Vignale spec they are very, but far too expensive for a ford product.
I always thought it would be the some form of biz lease mainly.
The Mondeo Vignale always reminded me of a top end rover 75 on the inside. Not a bad thing.
I’m not a fan of full leather, looks good, but I much prefer half leather.
March 7, 2022 at 6:57 pm #69275Had to get a tyre repaired today, slow puncture in the driver side rear.
Went to the Kwik Fit less than a mile away, booked in for 4 this afternoon. Took it back and they checked all the tyres, found the puncture I’d noticed and the other rear also had a big lump of glass in it so they fixed that as well.
While they were fixing the rears they noticed that the front tyres were still legal and with about 3k worth of tread on them so they offered to swap them as I was there. Job done, shiny new Bridgestone boots up front and 2 hopefully fixed rears. All in 40 minutes and at no cost to me.
The original front tyres lasted 13, 363 miles, not bad at all considering my Swift Sport could eat a pair in under 7,000……..
March 9, 2022 at 8:07 pm #69283Bridgestone?
You are making it up!!!!!!!! 🙂
March 11, 2022 at 1:52 pm #69289I’ve just seen this pop up – we ordered an ST-Line Puma last month. Delivery estimate so far is September! 🙁 Paid extra for the adaptive cruise control (which will have the blind spot checking) and the automatic gearbox version – after driving auto for the last 5 years, I don’t think I’d go back to a manual. We were going for the Titanium, but it worked out cheaper to get the ST-Line based on the PCP payments. Benefit of that as well is we get fully LCD drivers display, so means going to Ireland is a doddle as we can covert the dashboard to KM and kph.
We needed something bigger now we’ve a little one so we test drove this and a Yaris Cross. Wife preferred the Puma and I must admit the boot space won me over.
It’ll be a lower MPG than our existing Yaris, but the bigger boot space will offset that and we shouldn’t need to use a roof box for travels across country to Devon or Ireland to visit grandparents, again probably saving us MPG drops on that distance.
If we didn’t have those long drives, we’d have gone fully electric, but the Irish charging network is worse than here.
"Everything looks interesting until you do it. Then you find it’s just another job" - Terry Pratchett
March 11, 2022 at 2:18 pm #69290If the MPG is a concern, leave it in normal or put it in Eco.
<p style=”text-align: left;”>It does make a difference.</p>
I don’t like the colour of the display in Normal and Eco is sluggish to me.Mine is in Sport all the time, apart from when I had a very large leather armchair stuffed in the back. I put up with Normal for the short trip to my mother’s place to stop the chair shifting about and getting wedged.
I still love mine. Not far off a year now. Shame the full electric won’t be released until 2025, a year too late for me.
March 11, 2022 at 2:32 pm #69291Drezha, with a little one I’m surprised that you did not need a furniture van!
I guess modern buggies take a lot less space than the old prams/push chairs, and even less if you just opt for body slings.
Segueing back to cars, we decided that for our new (probably ultimate) car that we would go fully electric and opted for the Kia e-Niro. Given the current prices for petrol and diesel I feel that we lucked out, even more so as we can charge it up from our solar panels. The wife loves the car, even more than she did with our old Toyota hybrid. She is in the petite size range and often has problems with front and side visibility in the cars we drive, but the Kia’s seat adjustment has totally fixed that issue.
We now have three grandchildren who are all school age, so we can get away with relatively little boot space even if we are taking them all off somewhere.
The range quoted for a 64Kwh battery is around 230 miles (warm weather, not threshing it) This equates to around 3.5 miles/Kwh, a figure that experience shows to be fairly accurate, however battery performance is reduced in cold weather and goes downhill fast when the car heaters are used. (Apparently better to use seat warmers as this is more efficient, but kids tend to complain a bit).
The high torque of an electric motor means acceleration is extremely good, not quite up to hybrid acceleration, but more than acceptable. Braking can be a fearsome experience when both motor and discs cut in – give such cars plenty of braking space if behind them as their ability to stop on a pin may give you a shock!
The only real downside for us is range worry. Going away further than 100 miles means looking for hotels or venues that have chargers – preferably a high speed one. It also means planning to take breaks en-route where there are chargers we can use during the break.
I guess all this will improve with time as the numbers of electric cars increases, but it is going to make motorway recharging an interesting logistical exercise.
March 11, 2022 at 3:42 pm #69292Ed, the E Niro is meant to be a great family car.
I have my regen on maximum, can freak people out a little with how much it slows the car without using the brakes. Doesn’t take long to charge the tiny battery when going down a big hill.
March 11, 2022 at 6:00 pm #69293The Yaris has lived in Eco since we bought it! I was impressed with the manual that we test drove, but for longer drives, I’ve found automatic more comfortable. I was surprised at how the car seemed to perform with the small engine – my old Fiesta was a 1L and was sluggish, this felt faster than the larger Toyota Cross engine.
She’s on a buggy now, rather than pram and the one we have will fold down to fit to a airline overheard baggage holder, so that’s not really an issue – it fits in the rear seat footwell of the Yaris. But now the bikes and other items start appearing…. Plus side, the Megabox appears to be an ideal size for my Brompton! 😀
The Niro was something that we considered but didn’t go to look at in the end as we felt it looked to big.
"Everything looks interesting until you do it. Then you find it’s just another job" - Terry Pratchett
March 11, 2022 at 7:51 pm #69294Which power option did you go for?
<p style=”text-align: center;”>My 155 has surprised everyone. No one believes it’s a 1 litre.</p>March 12, 2022 at 8:31 am #69296The 1.0L Ford EcoBoost Hybrid (mHEV) 125PS 7 Speed Automatic version – Automatic was limited to just the single engine type.
"Everything looks interesting until you do it. Then you find it’s just another job" - Terry Pratchett
March 12, 2022 at 10:33 am #69297Okay.
Forgot about the automatic limitation.
I’m aware that the specs have changed a bit since I got mine, did you get the full driver assistance pack?
March 12, 2022 at 7:10 pm #69299Driver assistance packs can be both useful AND irritating. My wife likes all the bells and whistles turned on which can make the Kia a medley of sound whilst driving. Unfortunately not all the bells and whistles are intelligent. For example, the ‘lane wandering bong’ happens even if I have signaled and I am moving into the right hand lane. Frankly I find it b-annoying that the programmers did not think to turn off warnings whilst the indicators are being used.
My mental reaction is always one of irritation, ‘I KNOW I’m lane crossing – I bleeding well meant to do so!’
March 12, 2022 at 7:35 pm #69300Lane assist does my head in.
Switched off in my car. If I lived in the USA or Australia where the roads can be straight for 100s of miles, fine.
I live in Wales. Twisty potholed roads, dodging the craters is a big thing.
March 13, 2022 at 10:43 am #69301Forgot to mention that the remote unlock could well be a handy feature for a family.
It’s been handy for me a few times when I’ve taken my mother shopping and she’s finished and I haven’t.
March 14, 2022 at 9:04 am #69304ULEZ. Just a heads up. These things are spreading.
Any motoring plans on going into one of these areas, plan ahead. Go to the wed site check out your vehicle and pay in advance if you have to or you could end up getting your fingers burned.
My daughter has a 12 years old road tax free diesel. Classed as clean at the time and propbs still is.
Went into London and stayed a couple of days and then ended up getting fined £160= 80 going in and 80 coming out.
So much for road tax free then.
March 14, 2022 at 7:17 pm #69307Even if your car meets the low emissions numbers, you could still have a congestion charge hanging over you if you go through central London.
March 15, 2022 at 7:53 am #69312Yeah, visiting London can now be darn expensive. It looks to me for average folk the the automobile is a now go unless you got the brass for spanking new Tesla.
I saw a Tesla the other week and the tyres where shredded on it. It was a women driver but I don’t think she did that. Some one had been driving seriously hard in it.
March 15, 2022 at 2:24 pm #69313Okay. Forgot about the automatic limitation. I’m aware that the specs have changed a bit since I got mine, did you get the full driver assistance pack?
We did, as this brought in the adaptive cruise control (ACC). My two requirements for the car were CarPlay and ACC, as these are the two features I really missed when we had to hand my company car back and we got our Yaris. Sounds odd with the CarPlay but the larger screen for sat nav is good and I’ve never successfully used the hands free in the Yaris, so I don’t do anything in the car. ACC was a godsend for driving long distances in my Golf, so wanted that. The auto stop/start for traffic jams is amazing.
Lane assist is disabled in the Yaris – it does disable itself if you’re indicating, but the number of times it goes off normally made me turn it off.
Wife wanted parking sensors, front and rear, and this comes with that. Toyota wanted £3K more to have the front sensors, pulling the cost up to over £28,000, which is why that one was discounted from the running!
"Everything looks interesting until you do it. Then you find it’s just another job" - Terry Pratchett
March 15, 2022 at 4:26 pm #69314The auto stop/start for traffic jams is amazing.
It works wonderfully in traffic jams, but it’s a PITA at junctions, I found I’d get to the white line, stop and if it was clear, or an ‘I’ll get out if I’m quick’ scenario, just as I’m ready to go, it cuts out!! It’s switched off on mine and in the event of hitting a jam, trips on the motorway or into East London, I can switch it back on easily enough.
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