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  • #67958
    keith with the teefkeith with the teef
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      @thinktank
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      Remember Thatcher & Reagan. No we are not spending any money.

      Now look whats happened with Johnson and Biden. House keeping does not matter the new order is dish it out.

      I haven’t got a clue what that’s all about. Obvs in the 80’s money was real and now its not, cyber. So maybe the new order is cool because money does not exist.

      Also is the new order better or worse.

      I recall having no milk or text books in the 80’s

      #67959
      PlaneManPlaneMan
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        @planeman
        Forumite Points: 196

        Have a look at fiat money, it might scare you though.

        #67961
        Ed PEd P
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          @edps
          Forumite Points: 39

          Obvs in the 80’s money was real and now its not

          Money has never been real, and never will be. Money is a little like Peter Pan’s Tinkerbell, it does not exist if people do not believe in it. Money is all about confidence. Confidence that a token called money can be exchanged for goods and services, and that monetary debts will be repaid in one form or another. Money is only a promise, the only things that have real value are those you can eat, drink or use as shelter. UK bank notes even have a meaningless promise written on them:

          ‘I promise to pay the bearer on demand the sum of … ‘

          Which of course means precisely nothing!

          When no one believes in a currency you get hyperinflation, and the only way out of it is to restore people’s confidence in the currency.  For a real world example of this read about Germany’s (Weimar Republic)  hyperinflation in 1923. Towards the end it cost more to produce a banknote than the note was ‘worth’.

          Sanity was restored almost over night by the introduction of a new currency the Rentenmark backed by the price of gold but not redeemable in gold. i.e. backed by a sleight of hand!

          #67963
          Dave RiceDave Rice
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            @ricedg
            Forumite Points: 7

            The other thing this time is that most of the Government debt is owned by the Bank of England. What happens if they just write that off? Monetary policy just makes your head explode.

            #67964
            JayCeeDeeJayCeeDee
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              @jayceedee
              Forumite Points: 228

              Monetary policy just makes your head explode.

              A little bit like the ‘Futures Market’ making money off things that either don’t yet exist or haven’t happened yet, and don’t even get me started on Bitcoin!!

              #67969
              Ed PEd P
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                @edps
                Forumite Points: 39

                Also of course ‘We are in the poo, but everyone else is in the poo’  In that situation the key thing is to quickly get out of the poo, and not just stand taller while still in the poo.

                Hopefully the vaccine will get us out of the poo faster than anyone else. If we succeed then everyone else will have massive confidence in our ability to repay debts and we will not need to self-flagellate with austerity measures.

                #68012
                keith with the teefkeith with the teef
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                  @thinktank
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                  Had my injection Tuesday evening. It knocked me off my feet for 24 hours but now I feel I could solve any debt problems.

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