General Election

Judging by the lot that are up for the City/County election around here, we’re doomed.

They’ve been pestering residents recently, even though my door has a long list of people that aren’t welcome (including politicians) on the outside, they all ignore it. The only one that I have anything positive to say about runs a shop a few streets away, nice bloke but I don’t want him in any position of power at all. All the rest are wucking fanckers.

It always seemed obvious that it would have to happen.

The only chance of getting the Tories out locally is for no-one to vote Tory or for all the other parties to unite. This is the winker who backed the idiots who charged Park Run. I wonder if he’ll be voting with the Govt on the change of law to stop that happening again? It’ll be interesting as he’s never rebelled.

Just watching Diane Abbot on the ITV News. They’re doooomed I tell ye, doooomed. Oh dear, she ‘s just said she’s not anticipating anything going wrong.

At least this should see the end of Corbyn and UKIP, but somehow I doubt it.

I class labour and for the fisrt time unelectable. Nothing follows or has integrety or weight that comes from their side. But can they trun on the charm.

As for that Scottish girl Im pretty sure she is crackers.

Interesting. Considering Labour are the largest party in Europe, and a LOT of that support has happened since and because of Corbyn. I’m kind of confused when I see this line trotted out constantly about Corbyn being bad, being the death of Labour etc… He isn’t some loony left wing extremist. He’s pretty mainstream left. Our media has a very clear and obvious right wing bias, and yet every single time he’s had a vote against him, in spite of the numerous ways neo-lib Blairites have tried to undermine and hamstring him, he simply gets a larger vote to stay in power.

I’m not holding my breath, but I do hope we see a proper surprise at this election. Unfortunately, given the well-documented idiocy of people to vote against their own best interests and vote based entirely on the shite they’ve read in the paper, I’m not hoping too hard.

The problem corbyn has isn’t that his peers like/dislike him, they surly do, it is the public don’t like him.t

That is all what matters in his line of work.

RSB as you say ‘politics baffle me’ – don’t think you’re alone in that belief – many MPs would appear to share the same view!

No Lee you are not politically ignorant. That one made me think: she has seen how hated T.B.Liar is, due to his military adventures. Maybe she wants a comeback to the wreckage later with a “Told you so.” Or maybe she has had just enough time in the Hot Seat to qualify for a few remunerative Consultancies, Directorships and speaking tours…

My own feeling is that she and her Party have seen the Polls and believe that they may never have a better chance of another win, with a significantly large majority government. Someone should point out to her that Polls are often unreliably inaccurate.

Louis, I think Corbyn’s bus left a long time ago. My grandfather was a founder member of the original Independent Labour Party at the turn of the 19th century. My big brother was a Labour Councillor and an NUM delegate. I grew up steeped in Socialist history and Class Struggle. That convinced me of two facts: Socialism does not pass the “Screw you Jack, I’m allright” test, and both relatives mentioned, took part in events which time has left in the dust.

I live in a newly-created District Council area now called Louth South. The DC map has been redrawn to lump all villages south of Louth, into the Town area. Lots of different flyers have been shoved through our letterbox, but only the prospective Labour candidate has bothered to knock on the door and speak to us. Quite apart from the fact that she is an attractive young blonde, she speaks well, does not like Corbyn, and is a truly local lass with children and a home in the village, where she grew up. I shall vote for her in the Locals, because I do not vote for a candidate along Party lines: local councillors should be just that – local. I have known her for some time, but a political discussion with her was an education. She has independent ideas.

When it comes to any election, local or national, what always annoys me is the person who says “I don’t vote, it makes no difference!” Yes it does, it means you have no right to complain about anything done by the government/council which takes office. Millions of people suffered and died for centuries, until the country evolved a democracy. That’s another reason why Labour will not be elected: too many people who you would think should be Labour voters, cba to go to the Polling Station.

EDIT: how many Bonus Points, Doc?

I’m yet to see an economic model that works. Our current capitalist keynesian economic model was broken from day one.

The problem with the supply and demand model is there always has to be a looser, many loosers for the few to get rich.

At least with Socalism, the wealth is ‘meant’  to be distributed. I’m not saying that isn’t broken either.

Personally I think the best way is a communist approach, but for that to work, everyone has to be in. Communism doesn’t work if only a few isolated states take it up.

Communism gets a bad rap, “the failed experiment” as they call the USSR, but if it wasn’t for the rest of the world using capitalism, external inflation wouldn’t of bankrupted the communist States.

I’m not for dictatorships (unless I’m it)  more of a star trek style utopia, I suppose that is more Socialist, but I don’t think there is much between the two.

We will never get to the one world order, of no states and no shareholders, as there is to much for the current people in power, and wealth,  to lose.   with autonamation on the rise, along with population growth, unemployment is only going to rise, and keep rising.

The current economic approach will not work for the future world to function.

People need to be given fixed money, or credits, in lou of wanting to do hours, to add to the community /state /world /universe.  We need a world where money and wealth isn’t the driving factor. Maybe social standing will drive us, free schooling will let all who wants fulfil their ambition. Those who arnt if an educational mind will fill other rolls, but for just a few hours a week or month, not 10h a day.

My ideas need a lot of fleshing out. I just know the current way will end in disaster. Lol end in disaster! it’s been constant war for the last x hundred years, it’s always been a disaster.

Syria is all about money, as was Afghan and Iraq. And almost every other war in history.

She probably did not hear me when I advised her to “go to the country” eight months ago, but it seems she hears me now. It should shut up the Scottish woman who said “I was voted to this position, you weren’t”. – and others offering similar comment.

On consideration, it is the ideal time; nothing significant can happen over Europe until their various elections (France) are out of the way. The previous likelihood  of getting a bad brexit deal accepted by lib dems et al is receding.

Maybe it will get through to the labour PARTY that idiots with extreme left wing behaviour can not get the “ordinary working man” to actively vote for them. The biggest party in Europe won’t mean much when only the right wing Labour MPs get back in, those not first deselected.

“During the war” being staged in the Lords, “the Government should” have made the decision to remove all former politicians and ” send them back” for a proper Lords election. Only non-political appointees should be allowed in election free. Similarly of course, get rid of all Lords Spiritual, they have more than outlived their usefulness to the nation.

Les, who once more does not get a vote now he lives in the Isle of Man.

It appears that a few turkeys have voted for an early Christmas.

https://tinyurl.com/kgnt4or

I get to visit my Polling Station twice this year. It will rain, but only because it will be too warm for snow. In June 2007 the village was flooded. I have made sure my wellies are free of spiders…

Thanks for the vote Doc, I congratulate Les as the current Rambler champion. :good:  B-)