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October 27, 2019 at 9:12 am #37790
johnbarry
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I want to send files from PC1 to PC2 visa versa, both have Windows 10.

When in the network setup,

Setup a network

Choose the wireless router

Nothing show in the box to select.

I do recall when re installing Windows 10 I may have selected not to share.

Could this be why nothing shows in the box, if so how do I correct it.

Cheers
John
October 27, 2019 at 10:53 am #37791
blacklion1725
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I think its easiest to give each PC a static IP address e.g. 192.168.1.100 and 192.168.1.101. If you then type “\\192.168.1.201” from PC 192.168.1.100, it should open up that PC – and you can see any shared folders. If no folders are shared then you can share them from Windows explorer – I find it easy to add a new user (with read/write but not “full control” permissions for remote access but you don’t have to. Reverse process for accessing first computer from second.

This is all from memory as all mine was set up ages ago and you will probably get prompted to enable file and printer sharing on each machine.
October 27, 2019 at 11:32 am #37796
The Duke
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Easiest way is to use one drive share folder. Networking pc’s together is a relic of yesteryear. Or soon will be.

I use an app and browser extention called push bullet, so share between pc’s and phones. It’s the dogs.
October 27, 2019 at 11:50 am #37797
blacklion1725
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Pushbullet is great but I think 25Mb max file size unless you pay (I think?).
October 27, 2019 at 12:16 pm #37798
The Duke
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I’m not sure. I pay, mainly as I’ve used it for thst long I like to support the devs.

It’s always one of the first apps on any device. I use it almost daily. It’s great for pushing things off my home to my desktop. It’s that seemless it never haults my work flow.
October 27, 2019 at 3:41 pm #37799
Dave Rice
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I agree, use One Drive, Google Drive or DropBox.
October 27, 2019 at 5:44 pm #37800
blacklion1725
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Hmmm…if you’re moving big files about rather than syncing a load of content then I still think that networking the PCs is easier/more practical. MS seem to have made it harder in the last couple of years but once set up it works and is quick and direct.

Not sure what John is after moving, but – for example – big media files (GB) will be a lot quicker transferred locally at LAN speeds rather than your ISP’s uplink speed in most cases.
October 27, 2019 at 6:04 pm #37801
johnbarry
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Thanks all

Blacklion where do I type the numbers.

Duke the files could be bigger than 25mb

Dave I do have and use one drive, not fit for the purpose. The files are on D: E: or F: etc not in One Drive folder, at the time I would need to copy into one drive then pick them up in one drive on the other, to many one drives.

I used to use USB PC link not available for 10, I have previously used networking I need to move GB at times.

The way I am doing it it via a USB drive, I copy to USB in PC1 put the USB in PC2 and paste.

I know networking would save me manually copying & pasting by just passing one to the other, I just can’t network.

Cheers
John
October 27, 2019 at 6:33 pm #37802
The Duke
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If you want super simple, copy onto a USB stick.
October 27, 2019 at 6:37 pm #37803
blacklion1725
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johnbarry wrote:

Thanks all Blacklion where do I type the numbers. Duke the files could be bigger than 25mb Dave I do have and use one drive, not fit for the purpose. The files are on D: E: or F: etc not in One Drive folder, at the time I would need to copy into one drive then pick them up in one drive on the other, to many one drives. I used to use USB PC link not available for 10, I have previously used networking I need to move GB at times. The way I am doing it it via a USB drive, I copy to USB in PC1 put the USB in PC2 and paste. I know networking would save me manually copying & pasting by just passing one to the other, I just can’t network.

John – right click the start button, select “run” then type

\\192.168.1.101

(or whatever you called the second PC)

You can also type it in the address bar of Windows Explorer. Before you do either right-click each folder you want to share and set the share permissions you want (I think “read and write” in your case). Then once you type the IP address in you should see the shared folders on each PC from the other.
October 27, 2019 at 8:00 pm #37804
johnbarry
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I typed in run \\192.168.1.101

after a minute or so it said

I called it PC2 so I typed PC2

But then I am not sure what you mean by called it, I call them lots of names at different times. On setting up user name I set as PC2 other than I don’t have a name (most the time).

Windows has given it a system name DESKTOP-OVCAGIN I typed that

As before I tried to share a folder (as you suggest)

After right clicking on a folder there is no share, if I select a file I can share

I am lost now.

Cheers
John
October 27, 2019 at 8:11 pm #37805
blacklion1725
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The IP addresses were examples – I suggested in the first post you give the two PCs a static IP address as this is more reliable (in my experience) than PC/host names. Whatever IP addresses you give the machines is what you need to type. By default PCs will be set to get an IP address automatically via DHCP.

For folder sharing, right click the folder, then sharing is under “properties”.
October 27, 2019 at 11:22 pm #37806
Wheels-Of-Fire
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https://www.howtogeek.com/school/windows-network-sharing/lesson2/

Above is the most complete information on Windows Work groups I can find. Ignore anything to do with Home groups though because they are not available on W10, just make sure that any non W10 computers are not in one because it will over ride the Work group settings.
October 28, 2019 at 12:02 am #37808
Wheels-Of-Fire
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Oops, I linked into lesson two. You should definitely read lesson one because it deals with local user accounts and Microsoft accounts 😁
October 28, 2019 at 5:55 am #37809
Wheels-Of-Fire
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One more thing. If you open the network folder in explorer and it just says “Network discovery is turned off” then there should also be an option to turn it on. Do that for all the computers you want to appear on your network.
October 28, 2019 at 6:25 am #37810
The Duke
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Don’t to think in this day and age. You shoidl just be able to log into any pc with your Hotmail addy and the pc figure out if any other pc on that network are also logged into the same addy.

I suppose skydive is the nateral nextep that is already here. So physical networking isn’t needed by the masses.

By the time you have finished messing about John, you coudk of copied your suff over via one drive, Google drive or a USB drive. Even if it’s GB it’s just one click, then go for lunch etc.
October 28, 2019 at 8:04 am #37811
Dave Rice
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Things were moving that way with Homegroups etc. but they just weren’t used enough to keep supporting due to the rise of free online storage. It was also seen as daunting by your average home user compared to letting Windows setup One Drive for you at no effort.

If you regularly need to shovel gigabytes of data around your own network, usually multimedia if at home, then proper solutions are also now relatively cheap. The Synology DS119j DiskStation 1-Bay Enclosure is £96 and a 1TB drive at £35 (2TB £50). Setting one up is a damn sight easier than wrestling with Windows ever changing fie sharing protocols, plus it will be done securely.
October 28, 2019 at 9:21 am #37814
johnbarry
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Thanks for all the help on this.

I think I am gonna knock it on the head.

I tried this n that then the other, it get’s complicated. Also I read/spot something else like PC1 Nework is Private yet PC2 Network is Public I am now in a swet.

Thanks Again all.

Cheers
John
October 28, 2019 at 9:52 am #37816
Wheels-Of-Fire
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Yes the public and private network stuff is in my link and you would need to know about it with windows 8 and above 😁

Home groups were not really a new way of networking, more of a settings overlay for Work groups with a new network discovery protocol bolted on. PC name resolution is likely to be a pain on any network not running a DNS server because it will have to rely on one of the several discovery methods. The old style “Network neighbourhood” protocol that used NETBIOS will no longer work because SMB 1.0 has finally been deactivated or removed from W10.

Microsoft now recommends that home users share with One Drive but I think thats because they want to look at the type of data you are sharing if not its content as well 🙄

Having said all that, I set up my own Home group network with W10 with minimal effort and it has been working ever since 😀
October 28, 2019 at 9:57 am #37817
Wheels-Of-Fire
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I mean Home Work Group network 🙄
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