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September 15, 2019 at 10:08 am #36672
Those who were stuck on trains or otherwise affected by the recent massive power cut affecting Eastern England may be interested in the report into the event and recommended measures. report link
Massively paraphrasing the report findings, it basically says: “crap happens, and we are not going to spend big money on once in ten plus years events. We will however tell Govia (
Greyling) trains to get their act together, and beef up our communications with the public”September 15, 2019 at 5:40 pm #36683I was having a pee, missus Bob was having a hot shower at the time. I was aware that she knew certain words, but…. 😊😊😊😇
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I'm out.September 15, 2019 at 8:05 pm #36685Yep, sh1t happens now and again. I was most interested in the bit that said 60 east coast trains didn’t like the look of the incoming power so shut down, requiring a visit from a technician before they would start again.
September 16, 2019 at 1:37 am #36686I looked long and hard to find out what actually controls the frequency of the National Grid and the best I could find is above.
The article is by Drax so there is some bias but it is the only place that points out that green power sources just can’t do frequency regulation.
Load and supply regulation is all that gets mentioned elsewere, and it will help, but not if you have NO frequency regulation capability 🤔
September 16, 2019 at 6:38 am #36688Managing power supplies is quite complex. It isn’t just the load that matters but also its type (resistance – as in heating, or inductive – as in motors and its impact on phasing). There is also the complexity of their backup routing (which is normally many miles from the ‘main’ route) having different sorts of loads.
September 16, 2019 at 9:38 am #36689Years since I did it but I have a BTEC in ELECTRTCAL&Electronic engineering. Hours of fun was had with power factors and phase diagrams 😁.
The thing is though, most of that is to do with load rather than frequency. It seems to me that the national grid is normally very good at managing load but not so good at managing frequency now they have so much unregulated Green stuff coming in as it just syncs to and follows the supply its connected to.
In the past if the load went down the frequency would tend to go up because the physical load on the generators would go down so they would spin faster and vice versa.
As Drax point out they can fix that just by altering the amount of steam they use, they are effectively driving the frequency of the grid rather than following it.
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