GDPR -UK a Soft Touch

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  • #34437
    Ed PEd P
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      @edps
      Forumite Points: 39

      Unlike other EU nations the UK has enforced ZERO fines or penalties on GDPR offenders – just shows the general UK Government attitude to personal data privacy!

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      #34438
      RichardRichard
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        @sawboman
        Forumite Points: 16
        #34442
        Bob WilliamsBob Williams
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          @bullstuff2
          Forumite Points: 0

          I found both links interesting, but Richard‘s ICO link was an illustration of the way that the UK will deal with GDPR issues after Brexit. I found particular interest in the ICO’s handling of TPS (Telephone Preference Services) complaints from people signed up to TPS, who were still receiving “cold calls” from telesales people.

          I await a possible response from Ed with anticipation: very unlike you to miss something like this, Ed!

          When the Thought Police arrive at your door, think -
          I'm out.

          #34445
          Dave RiceDave Rice
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            @ricedg
            Forumite Points: 7

            The problem with cold calls is a lot are from outside of the country. “Disposable” phone numbers are two-a-penny which makes blocking them hard.

            I would recommend my solution, the TrueCall box, it really does work.

            #34450
            Ed PEd P
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              @edps
              Forumite Points: 39

              Thanks for the link, I missed it – I personally would not have included cold calls as most of the damned things are offshore but I have never seen/heard since using the Truecall box that Dave pointed me to a couple of years ago. I’m also pretty careful with who I give my mobile number and play hell with them if Truecaller  shows a spike in unsolicited calls.

              #34454
              D-DanD-Dan
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                @d-dan
                Forumite Points: 6

                Personally (and as someone who has to consider GDPR on a daily basis) I have to say the legislation is poorly considered, and far too restrictive in many areas.

                For example, explicit opt in to many aspects will be an inconvenience (and some times, an insurmountable problem) to end users.

                The definitions of data controller and data processor can, often times, be too blurred (and it makes a difference to the potential penalties).

                The demarcation between different categories is ill conceived (legitimate interest could be a “get out of jail free” card).

                As with much legislation, especially that which applies across borders, politicians legislating for something they don’t understand is a bad move.

                Arch Linux, on a Ryzen 7 1800X, 32 GB, 5 (yes -5) HDs inc 5 SSDs, 4 RPi 3Bs + 1 RPi 4B - one as an NFS server with two more drives, PiHole (shut yours), Plex server, cloud server, and other random Pi stuff. Nice CoolerMaster case, 2 x NV GTX 1070 8GB, and a whopping 32" AOC 1440P monitor.

                #34460
                Dave RiceDave Rice
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                  @ricedg
                  Forumite Points: 7

                  Luckily none of my customers do any email marketing. Most of them (now) have Synology NAS and Draytek routers so getting robust security is easier and everything gets encrypted. HTTPS certificates are a doodle from both manufacturers tie ins with Let’s Encrypt.

                  All PCs and laptops are encrypted and they are discouraged from using USB sticks, which they don’t have much need to now they have a VPN to the office. I usually create a single encrypted one for emergencies though.

                  The Synology’s allow you to create a secure “portal” for exchange of documents with customers so they don’t need to email out anything potentially sensitive. That takes the major cause of breaches out at a stroke. On top of that absolutely everything is logged by default. All backups are encrypted and stored in Synology’s Frankfurt data centre.

                  #34461
                  The DukeThe Duke
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                    @sgb101
                    Forumite Points: 5

                    Dave, is the ‘Truecall’ box related to the ‘True Caller dailer app’?

                    If so I’d recommend the box without even using it. The dailer app is fantastic.

                    #34464
                    Dave RiceDave Rice
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                      @ricedg
                      Forumite Points: 7

                      The TrueCaller app is Swedish, TrueCall box is British.

                      I’ve noticed that I now get a warning of a “possible spam caller” on my phone as part of Android. It’s not very accurate though! Had a legitimate call (probably from a call centre) that was warned and then a dialler that wasn’t. I really don’t get much crap on my mobile though, never have.

                      The landline was a different matter, it was getting ridiculous.

                      #34465
                      The DukeThe Duke
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                        @sgb101
                        Forumite Points: 5

                        I did (and still do but I rearly see it) get spam calls on my mobile. I put it down to the age of my number. Had it since the late 90s, so it’s probably on every list going by now.

                        Truecallers hit rate is excellent. It was Teh default dialler on the 1+1, and it was integrated seeamlessly. I’ve used it ever since. It is now pranaly as seemless as it was on the plus 1 now, but I recall the app being a bit more cluncy on the phone after my one plus.

                        I wouldn’t use another dialer now. Don’t have phones plugged into my landlines, so have no need for the box. But if I did I’d defo have some spam system set up.

                        #34466
                        DrezhaDrezha
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                          @drezha
                          Forumite Points: 0

                          All PCs and laptops are encrypted and they are discouraged from using USB sticks, which they don’t have much need to now they have a VPN to the office. I usually create a single encrypted one for emergencies though.

                          Here’s hoping they have a faster internet connection than my current workplace! Using work VPN is a nightmare. Even worse when used on a dodgy/slow hotel wifi – to the extent that my current projects are transported around with my on my portable SSD. Bitlocker encrypted throgh.

                          As to D-Dan’s comments, it has caused me issues with the cadets as well. Knee jerk reaction is that no information stored locally on squadrons, all has to rely on the MOD backed server system (which is just Office 365…) Great. Until you have a squadron where the internet isn’t working or where the squadron commander hasn’t been given the log in details to review all the information… happened to me more times than once so far. As far as I was aware, as long as I took reasonable precautions, it would be acceptable (i.e. keep cadet consent forms under lock and key).

                          "Everything looks interesting until you do it. Then you find it’s just another job" - Terry Pratchett

                          #34467
                          Dave RiceDave Rice
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                            @ricedg
                            Forumite Points: 7

                            Not had an issue with Draytek’s, Synology’s or PiVPN (OpenVPN server) speeds. They are as fast as the connection allows and the protocol doesn’t seem to make a difference.

                            However  I tried using the VPN client of the Huawei 4G router to link two sites (back to a Draytek) and it was dire.For remote access I use a PiVPN and the customers use Windows built in VPN client to access their HQ. Both work at full speed so it must be the Huawei itself. I suspect the CPU just isn’t up to it.

                            Sounds like your office is controlling bandwidth. It’d certainly be a priority if I was their infrastructure guy to stop the need for people doing what you’re doing. I have one customer accessing big CAD files through his Draytek / FTTC setup and he’s happy.

                            #34474
                            DrezhaDrezha
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                              @drezha
                              Forumite Points: 0

                              I have a feeling that the data is already being sent through a VPN, even whilst in the office, as if I try and log in on an Apple device whilst in the office (in Manchester), it suggests that I’m signing in via London. In addition, trying to save files over the VPN from home can be slow – but I’m on a 70Mbps connection with Virgin (though there upload isn’t as good as the old BT line I was on).

                              Anyhow, may not be here for much longer if my interview on Monday pans out! (a move back to the Midlands beckons if everything works out…)

                              "Everything looks interesting until you do it. Then you find it’s just another job" - Terry Pratchett

                              #34476
                              Bob WilliamsBob Williams
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                                @bullstuff2
                                Forumite Points: 0

                                +1 for Truecaller, thanks for the tip back when Steve.

                                When the Thought Police arrive at your door, think -
                                I'm out.

                                #34484
                                JayCeeDeeJayCeeDee
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                                  @jayceedee
                                  Forumite Points: 230

                                  Both work at full speed so it must be the Huawei itself. I suspect the CPU just isn’t up to it.

                                  Maybe it’s prioritising bandwidth sending all that info home to China before it delivers it for you or your customer!!??

                                  #34756
                                  RichardRichard
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                                    @sawboman
                                    Forumite Points: 16

                                    Or perhaps not so soft with BA whose show of other people’s privates has got the GDPR folk hopping mad, with a proposed pricy bill.

                                    #34757
                                    dwynnehughdwynnehugh
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                                      @dwynnehugh
                                      Forumite Points: 0

                                      Based on personal experience one of the worst professions for breaching the GDPR are solicitors.  When I work for them and submit my invoice which inc my H/A, home tel no., my bank account details very often they are simply passed onto their clients for payment!!

                                      I had one particular ‘rectal cavity’ of a solicitor who informed me that that was my problem and they / he intended to continue as he had done before.

                                      A quick complaint to the ICO soon stopped that.

                                      I have found the ICO very helpful at all times.

                                      The more you meet people the more you understand why Noah took animals instead of humans

                                      #34769
                                      Bob WilliamsBob Williams
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                                        @bullstuff2
                                        Forumite Points: 0

                                        I had quite enough of solicitors when I worked at a County Council, carrying out Common Land Searches for solicitors’ clients. Their clients were usually either developers or private home owners trying to obtain more land, which involved property lines and borders. I was instrumental in having two such solicitors struck off by the SRA: one was actually prosecuted, found guilty of malfeasance and jailed. I did wonder at the reaction of other prisoners to the news of his former occupation…

                                        I remember one of the good guys that I worked for making the statement that “Honest soliciting is carried out on Xxxxxx Street after dark and usually provides value for money.”

                                        When the Thought Police arrive at your door, think -
                                        I'm out.

                                        #34770
                                        Ed PEd P
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                                          @edps
                                          Forumite Points: 39

                                          Or perhaps not so soft with BA whose show of other people’s privates has got the GDPR folk hopping mad, with a proposed pricy bill.

                                          That was using the new EU scale of fines which are based on a percent of annual turnover. BA got off light for their stupid India outsourcing. It could have been as much as £500 million. If they rerun the Facebook case it could be billions!

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