Our new Phones.

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  • #33983
    Bob WilliamsBob Williams
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      @bullstuff2
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      Blimey, two New Topics in one day from me!

      I am impressed with our Sony Xperia L3 phones. Possibly down in a small way to a decided improvement over the creaking Wileyfox Swift and Spark devices we had. Even so, the L3, for what is described as a budget device, is really good. It’s quick, screen, battery and camera are fine, and what I really found useful is the Guide. There is just so much I can do with it: a huge list of Help features and functions under Settings – Support – (leading to 6 Panes) -Guide Pane – Read more.

      For someone of my age, with no previous device experience and little knowledge of mobiles, this is a huge help. I have found so many ways to improve my use of the phone. It’s also my first experience of a USB ‘C’ socket, which apparently all new phones have. Fortunately Sony’s USB cable fits! TBH, best £280 we have spent in a long time (that’s for both phones)

      And yesterday was the first time I have had to charge it, after a week of constant use.

      And Missus Bob says it looks nice when she switches hers on… High Praise!

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      #33988
      PlaneManPlaneMan
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        @planeman
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        USB C is the way forward. My last 2 phones, my Chromebook and Chromebox are all USB C. I won’t touch a device (for myself) that isn’t USB C.

        Unless it’s a legacy device or dirt cheap.

        #33990
        The DukeThe Duke
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          @sgb101
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          yep usb c all the way. rapid(fast) charging is the future, not large capacity batteries. though having both is great. but if i had to choose, id pick fast charging over larger capacity.

          glad youre liking your new phones bob.

          #33991
          Bob WilliamsBob Williams
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            @bullstuff2
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            Love ’em Steve. Just discovered NFC and the ability to transfer stuff across phones. Learning all the time, but I better not tell my missus about that last bit.

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            #33992
            Wheels-Of-FireWheels-Of-Fire
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              @grahamdearsley
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              The Sony phone management software for Windows is almost unique too, in that it works !

              You can even use it to recover a totally bricked phone if you need to. One of my less technical friends switched off his Sony during an update leaving it with about half a copy of Android.

              The Sony companion software made me jump through a few hoops but about 2 hours later we had a working phone with the latest software on it.

              #33993
              Wheels-Of-FireWheels-Of-Fire
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                @grahamdearsley
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                That phone really was messed up too.

                Sony logo, black screen, Sony logo, black screen etc.

                Press the key combo to get to the boot loader? Nope.

                Press the keys for a factory reset ? Not listening.

                Plug it into a PC via USB ? Windows doesn’t even notice.

                The sony companion software couldn’t find a phone either but it offered a nuclear option if you entered the model name manually.

                With that done the software goes to the internet to get a special driver package. Then you can see the software trying a few things until a Windows found new device box pops up.

                From there you follow the instructions and wait for it to do its thing.

                #33996
                RichardRichard
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                  @sawboman
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                  Bob, an interesting write up and it could be useful in the not so distant future. My Moto 4G Play is still working as it used to, I think but it is a bit slower even than me so can be frustrating. It was interesting to hear you say about the NFC, mine has that option/feature but I have not yet found a use for it. I am pestered to use it for Google pay, though I am not sure the extra hassle of (a) finding out how to set it up, and (b) having to fight the phone out of an inside pocket would represent any sort of step forward for me. I still like and want paper receipts, they are so much easier to punch and file for later checking off.

                  x

                  #33997
                  RichardRichard
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                    @sawboman
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                    @WOF I was surprised that phones allow themselves to turn off or be turned off. I always thought that the ‘switch’ was a soft button that should be easy to disable during critical activities. Though perhaps it is easier to cut dumb users fingers off? Turning things off while do some critical activity is not something I plan to mess with, I assume that warnings are there for a very obvious reason. Some things used to suggest relying on mains power while doing critical activities. However the Sony option is an interesting and perhaps vital fall back for when things go really wrong.

                    #33998
                    RichardRichard
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                      @sawboman
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                      As an aside that may well affect a lot of possible future comms kit I saw that both Ericsson and Nokia are planning to run East and West divisions each as an insider of the different hemispheres as separate entities to overcome the present trade war threats. I wonder how that will play out and what effects it will have on the mobile handset business. Will others follow? It could well affect choice and price as well as affecting employment in different locations.

                      #34012
                      Wheels-Of-FireWheels-Of-Fire
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                        @grahamdearsley
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                        To be fair to my friend Richard there was some debate about wether he switched off or the battery went flat but the result was the same ?

                        I now use NFC quite often but mostly for the bus or tube. The first time was when I had walked to the station and found I had forgotten my wallet. I used NFC for the train and then Emergency get cash from an ATM when I got there.

                        #34017
                        Bob WilliamsBob Williams
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                          @bullstuff2
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                          I won’t be using NFC on mine for anything financial. We have contactless debit cards and use those or cash. I don’t have my internet bank on my phone: may sound old fashioned, but I don’t trust it. My wallet has RFID blocking and so does SWMBO’s purse in a handbag that would give anyone at least concussion if she used it in anger.? My main use for the NFC bit will be transferring stuff to and from devices and the inevitable moment when SWMBO has an ‘episode’ and screws up her phone.

                          I did have an interesting couple of hours at initial setup. We are both on EE, SIM only, 2 different contracts. Mine is monthly, missus’ is PAYG (can’t make her understand the waste). I switched off mine for the night and next day phone was asking for a PUK or PUC number. I now understand that this refers to an 8-digit Personal Unblocking Code, but at the time I was completely unaware of this, never having received the information and never having had to use it in 3 years with the Wileyfox that I switched off every night. I wound up in a conversation with a person at EE who obviously worked far from these shores. The attitude appeared to be that it was all my fault, OK fine, I can ditch EE anytime and apply to another supplier for another SIM. I was passed from pillar to post, then had the exact same conversation with a ‘Supervisor’. I repeated my threat to leave EE, she said I would have to pay up my contract, I pointed out her obvious lack of knowledge that my contract was SIM only and monthly. Hold please she said. No I said, this is my number, phone me back within 1 hour or I am gone from EE.

                          I received a PUC within the hour from a much more amenable person. In fact I received two different numbers. The first one worked, but I now keep both numbers, away from the phone wallet of course. This procedure was instigated in line with my mantra that one has to be a bloody nuisance to produce an acceptable result when dealing with such bodies. Keeping in mind that ‘all conversations are recorded for training purposes (or whatever)’ of course.

                          Almost finished this monologue when a long lost cousin called me out of the blue.

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                          I'm out.

                          #34019
                          Bob WilliamsBob Williams
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                            @bullstuff2
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                            Graham (WoF) you are absolutely right about Sony phone software, if their PC software was as good I would have had less trouble with my neighbour’s laptop a few years ago!

                            Richard I would recommend the Xperia, but ask me when you are ready to swop for new and I will have had more use out of it. Have no experience of Google Pay, (Android Pay) but I would expect it to work as efficiently as most other Google stuff.

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                            #34027
                            The DukeThe Duke
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                              @sgb101
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                              Android pay is very handy. Before I got the pub got in the habit of never taking a wallet out. Backed up my emergency (fuel) visa card clipped to the sun viser in my car.

                              I wad almost cash free back then. Not now! Already warn one wallet out, in 10 weeks.

                              #34034
                              Bob WilliamsBob Williams
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                                @bullstuff2
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                                Don’t think I will ever be cash-free living here. Still quite a few shops in Louth only take cash, and having a good market 3 days a week with some amazing bargains of all products and tasty, really fresh food keeps the cash purchases going. Grimsby Fishman: “You want it any fresher, you have to be on the trawler!” Having said that, there are some small shops that not only take cards, they are contactless. Think that’s why I love Louth: there are so many different shops and different ways to buy. Go to Grimsby or Lincoln, there are the same High Street shops as on every High Street.

                                When the Thought Police arrive at your door, think -
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                                #34035
                                Dave RiceDave Rice
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                                  @ricedg
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                                  I recently got paid in cash and as my bank is miles away I thought I’d use the folding stuff for a change. What a PITA! The pocket full of shrapnel is the worst bit.

                                  The last bank has left Padstow and taken the last ATM with it. Lots of shops will not now accept cash as the nearest bank is a 16 mile round trip away in Wadebridge.

                                  Our new Metro bus is an electronic payment only service and the ticket must be bought before you board. Either from a ticket point at the stop or a phone app. The phone app tickets work on all First services and most passengers use it now. When someone gets on, hasn’t even got their purse out of the Tardis handbag and then counts out the fare in 5 and 10 pence pieces it’s damned annoying!

                                  #34036
                                  PlaneManPlaneMan
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                                    @planeman
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                                    Dave, I know what you mean about the change in the pockets. Anything under a quid goes in my change pot.

                                    I use cash often but there are times when using my phone is just easier.

                                    Today was a prime example, yesterday some volunteers put up new curtains and curtain rods in the legion. Some of the rings broke so they ran out. I stopped at Wilko today and got some. Using cash would mean navigating the car park, parking up, hobbling to the cash point, driving another few shops down and then hitting Wilko. All in the torrential rain. Nuts to that.

                                    Parked right outside, collared a very nice youngish female assistant, tap my phone and within 5 minutes back in the car.

                                    #34037
                                    PlaneManPlaneMan
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                                      @planeman
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                                      Dave, I know what you mean about the change in the pockets. Anything under a quid goes in my change pot.

                                      I use cash often but there are times when using my phone is just easier.

                                      Today was a prime example, yesterday some volunteers put up new curtains and curtain rods in the legion. Some of the rings broke so they ran out. I stopped at Wilko today and got some. Using cash would mean navigating the car park, parking up, hobbling to the cash point, driving another few shops down and then hitting Wilko. All in the torrential rain. Nuts to that.

                                      Parked right outside, collared a very nice youngish female assistant, tap my phone and within 5 minutes back in the car.

                                      #34038
                                      blacklion1725blacklion1725
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                                        @blacklion1725
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                                        Blimey never had a shop refuse cash – I’m in greater London. Our public transport runs on contactless or Oyster Cards – buses don’t take cash at all now. I must admit if you’re in a busy pub waiting to get served then contactless does speed thing along. Don’t tend to use it as it seems TOO easy. Worst thing about cash now is these plastic fivers and tenners that you can’t fold, roll or do anything with. Hate the things.

                                        #34040
                                        Bob WilliamsBob Williams
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                                          @bullstuff2
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                                          Know what you mean about our Toytown money BL. It feels like the stuff that my kids and grandkids used to play “shop” with. I suppose it could be laundered though: in the sense of putting it through a washer at low temp! That would have saved an old Army mate’s rent money in Germany. He took a private hiring as he didn’t have enough points for a Married Quarter. His wife was away having their first pup and he asked me to live there a few days as he spoke no Deutsch. Put his washing in, shirt pocket had his money. Spin cycle ended and there were bits of Deutschemark everywhere!

                                          Brummy lad, good job the local neighbours could not understand the words he came out with. (I struggled!)

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                                          #34041
                                          RichardRichard
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                                            @sawboman
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                                            I always carry cash as we have several cash only sessions per week. I top up my ‘wallet’, (it is a small pouch on my belt), at the supermarket it is a very few feet from car to the machine. Car parking generally needs cash in most car parks so any change from cash purchases ends up in various machines. For amounts over somewhere between £5 ~ £ 20 I will use a card, (chip and pin) and I always get a receipt to keep the books straight. I just do not want the hassle of churning through endless little bits of expenditure when the next billing cycles come round. Places that do not want my custom by getting too picky about payments can do without my custom, I have yet to encounter one. Cards are a problem during power cuts, IT breakdowns and communications links issues. So I always carry a choice of payment methods.

                                            The longest part of shopping is usually the queue though a quick dash round to get some ‘more or less matching bedding plants’ to complete an emerging planting plan tonight had no queue. So some dodgy juggling of plant trays, one £10 note and out the door. I really should have used one of the shop zimmer frames, the ones with baskets for goods. They are a great support if you are stuck behind a queue. For me, walking is OK-ish, but standing is really uncomfortable very quickly, hand carrying items is also rapidly painful.

                                            Following the latest pain in the behind ruling from the Brussels Gestapo paying credit card bills has become a bigger pain in the behind. Card companies proudly proclaim that they have improved the ‘security’ by making it a total hassle so much more needs to be written down and laboriously punched into the PC, then wait to see if a damned text will get through, requiring more digit punching. It is making cheques far simpler and appealing, even if it would require a stamp on the envelope. Sadly the same text message farce is also coming to internet shopping, thus raising the desirability of nicking people’s phone or service.

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