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February 1, 2017 at 10:18 pm #3186
OK, weird one. I’ve been driving until around 4 years ago since I was 21/22 (so 30 years or so). 4 – 5 years ago I gave my car away, and decided that was the end of it.
This weekend (slightly drunk, I should add) I was offered a hell of a buy and an excellent condition 1999 Mazda (£100 for cash) so I bought it, and so have set about the process of making everything legal.
Tax expired yesterday (not a problem) and MOT until Saturday (based on observations, also not a huge problem).
Me, Type 1 diabetic, and just spent over an hour trying to renew my lapsed license with DVLA. HM Government IT, lousy, but I may be OK. Their website said I can drive in the meantime, so I must be OK. Not sure that would work with HM Constabulary, but C’est la vie.
The biggest annoyance, 4 -5 years ago maximum no claims. Today 0 no claims, and not a claim anywhere in sight.
I hate this country and it’s insurance.
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February 2, 2017 at 12:04 am #3188Same thing happened to a friend who had been in France for 8 years, split with her hubby, came back to the UK – 0 years No Claims, despite driving the whole time in France ( named driver on hubby’s policy.)
February 2, 2017 at 7:49 am #3191Yeah, been in the same boat. Sold my car and gave up driving when I was doing my PhD and then moved to London. Gap of four years and I started again last year – no more no claims bonus now.
However, the £350 was a lot more palatable than when I started, which was £1300 for my Ford Fiesta!
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February 2, 2017 at 8:03 am #3194Might be worth pursuing ‘Black box‘ insurance in those circumstances.
February 2, 2017 at 10:36 am #3199What is a lapsed licence? I’ve never heard of such thing. My licence says it’s good until my 70th birthday iirc.
With no claims bonus, they vanish after a 2 years laps.
February 2, 2017 at 10:47 am #3201What is a lapsed licence? I’ve never heard of such thing. My licence says it’s good until my 70th birthday iirc. With no claims bonus, they vanish after a 2 years laps.
I’d check that, they have to be renewed every 10 years because of the photo card element, in 10 years a persons face can change a lot.
February 2, 2017 at 11:13 am #3202If, like me, you haven’t moved house since 1985 or changed your name and you still have the old green paper license, you do not need to have a new pink photocard one until you hit the 70 mark 🙂
https://www.gov.uk/exchange-paper-driving-licence
You must get a new licence if:
you change your address
your licence has been defaced, lost, stolen or destroyed
you change your name (you must apply by post using paper form D1 or D2)
you’re getting a Driver Certificate of Professional Competence (CPC) driver qualification card (DQC)
If none of these apply and your paper licence is still valid, you don’t need to exchange it for a photocard version.Never trust an atom - they make up everything !
February 2, 2017 at 11:46 am #3204I have to renew every 3 years – medical renewal.
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February 2, 2017 at 12:01 pm #3205Dan that explains alot.
I knew about the change of photo rule, but still your licence is good untill 70 normally.
My original photo card said until 70th, now the photo card has a 10 year life, the licence is untill 70.
I moaned on mm about the £20 tax to change the picture. The charge should be e ough to cover the salmon fee and postage. £3-5 would be a e palatable. £20 isn’t, and I bet it’s gone up since I last done mine.
The paper counterpart is now dead too, so mine will always have the 3 points on it forever!
They actually snuck that ten year update in, I only found out about it, through watch dog. I was about 2 months away from expiration. All my in laws was out of date! Non had any idea.
February 2, 2017 at 1:42 pm #3218I belive that after 2 years w/o insurance your NCD is lost but there is always a chance you can get a company to give you a discount on your past record – this will have to be a phone call as it’s not catered for in the electronic renewal system. It depends if you hit them on a good or a bad day but they might give you a 30% NCD.
The ‘black box’ imho is no use, my nephew in Sussex had one fitted – max 6K miles/year BUT that also includes anyone else who might be driving as well – so any additional mileage used by a 30+ driver counts as well. Extra mileage was about £100/1K miles. His basic on a 1300 Fiesta was around £1300+, a full no mileage limited annual premium would not have been a lot greater – and a damn sight cheaper than buying extra miles.
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February 2, 2017 at 4:36 pm #3245The black box is hit of miss, as my daughter works untill late at weekends, she would have to opt for the night one (after 11pm) and the saving on going with out the box is only £100, £1300 against £1400, so paying monthly, it’s hardy noticeable.
And the fines witj them blaxnkxes are harsh, I know a girl that has a heavy foot and light brain, that gets aroumd in £60 a month in fines of the inc for breaking rules.
I’m sure it all depends on location, circumstances, location, age, sex, and so on, so there is never a 3rd party right answer for you. You just need to spend a night going through the yellow pages. The bad old way.
February 4, 2017 at 9:54 am #3309I got a reminder from the DVLA so I suspect provided your address is correct, anyone caught in this scenario gets one too. Incidentally, you can do it over the counter at you local Post Office if you still have one and it can do check and send.
As for insurance, RSA Mobility have told me there is no way of taking no claims bonus from a Motorbility Car to another car if I choose to buy one meaing that if I loose this car I’ll have to start over too and I’ve not left the country 🙁
Cheers Knight,
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February 4, 2017 at 11:26 am #3310May be worth bound a £100 scrapper every third year, insuring it for 3 months then scrapping it. You ll get your £100, it will just cost you the 3monts Inc (it may be 6 months you need to keep the ncd going). But defo worth a look, as insurance is a bit steep without them.
Probably cost you a total of £100 by the time you scrap the car, every third year. Probably a worth while gamble
February 4, 2017 at 3:15 pm #3316As for insurance, RSA Mobility have told me there is no way of taking no claims bonus from a Motorbility Car to another car if I choose to buy one meaing that if I loose this car I’ll have to start over too and I’ve not left the country ?
I read somewhere that insurers treat the Motability scheme as a long term rental for insurance purposes, hence the lack of a no claims bonus to carry over.
How true that is I don’t know.
February 4, 2017 at 3:19 pm #3317I’d imagine your not the policy holder,thats why it doesn’t carry over.
February 4, 2017 at 9:18 pm #3340Spoke to a friend who left the scheme last year, they (RSA) gave him a letter stating that during his time with them he had no previous claims with them.
None of the major insurers would accept it as it wasn’t recognized proof of no claims, https://www.adrianflux.co.uk/, however, told him that RSA is campaigning for the letter to be recognized.
Cheers Knight,
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February 5, 2017 at 8:33 pm #3398I’m a bit confused as to why anyone would want to leave the Motability scheme, Robin. If the award is indefinite (as mine is) then I don’t see the problem. Even if I were to win the Euro millions and become stinking rich, the payments will continue and I could use them towards a more expensive car, many of the luxury models including Merc’s are available. Appears to be morally wrong I know, but the payments are because the user has a disability, regardless of financial circumstances. On the other hand, there are small cars with either manual or auto ‘boxes available, some with less than the Total Allowance.
I had a neighbour who had Motability payments and would not take a car from the scheme. Instead, he bought second-hand crapmobiles and paid out for servicing, tyres and insurance. I proved to him that this was a false economy by taking everything he spent on the wheeled shed he bought, adding it up and contrasting it with my Motability lease. He would not budge: “It’s not yours!” – “No – but the difference is that mine will start every morning, I don’t pay for anything but fuel, and on the rare occasion of a breakdown (1 in 22 years) or RTC, (3 in same period, none my fault) it is recovered and repaired, although there is a £100 excess for a Repair.”
I am very grateful for my own Motability car every 3 years, which incidentally can now be stretched by 6 months or <span style=”text-decoration: underline;”>in exceptional circumstances</span>, another 3 years. the other day I was told that the British Taxpayer pays for my car. No, it does not: Motability is a charitable organisation that exists solely by donation from industry, private donors and its own fundraising efforts. I save a little bit every month for 3 years in order to be able to put down a good deposit on a decent ride. SWMBO and I have delicate constitutions ? ? and very painful spinal problems, comfort is a priority. This year all deposits have risen, thanks to the state of the GBP.
I have always found RSA to be helpful on the few occasions I have needed them, and managed to get a good Home Insurance deal by asking via the RSA site, not the Motability site, they take a cut but I already fundraise for them, that’s enough blood for now thank you. :scratch: :negative:
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I'm out.February 5, 2017 at 8:59 pm #3406Sorry, I should have written that better it was his wife’s mobility car, but she passed, he was the named driver as she couldn’t. Hence after it went back he had to get a car and ins by himself.
Cheers Knight,
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February 5, 2017 at 9:13 pm #3407Sorry, I should have written that better it was his wife’s mobility car, but she passed, he was the named driver as she couldn’t. Hence after it went back he had to get a car and ins by himself.
Oh I see: that would be a blow, I understand his problem better now. My misus would not ever contemplate driving, never had a licence and at 70 I can’t ever see her taking a Prov. licence, although she gets DLA Mobility same as me. Which is another point: if I fall from my current perch, she will be able to afford taxis, or take a car (as registered Keeper) and name one of the kids as a driver. Although she has a Bus Pass, they are a rare sight around here. Example – to get to Skegness, from Lincoln:
Wait for the Louth bus to come into Lincoln bus station, hope it gets to Louth before the Mablethorpe bus has to leave. If that bus is in at Louth, catch it and hope to get to Mablethorpe before the Skegness bus leaves. One traffic incident can blow all of this apart and pssengers are left waiting, sometimes for a couple of hours. If it’s after 19:30 hours in Louth, you ain’t gonna get to Skeggy tonight. Ah, the joys of a rural public transport service.
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I'm out.February 5, 2017 at 9:38 pm #3409Wow, times have changed. I was abroad for a long time, part of which I used the same insurance co as I had used in the UK. Latterly in Japan the system was very different for a whole range of reasons. When I reactivated the car back here my note from Japan was accepted as evidence that I had not had any claims and neither had my wife. Since then much water has flowed under many bridges. I wonder why, apart from money grubbing, that the insurance industry has been so difficult. I do know of one case where the insurance co did allow a so called introductory discount. A bit like calling a sheep a dog in my mind, but hey ho any discount is better than no discount.
It is not just rural ‘services’ that appear to have been designed by a sadist who wants to close them down. Try getting to somewhere useful like a train station from a point outside the town. First go to the bus station and then hope for a bus to the station that does not go everywhere round the town first, probably taking longer than the desired train journey. It is a mad, mad world.
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