Will TIG totally wipe out the Lib's?

Have the Libs been anything to worry about for anyone since Clegg jumped into bed with Cameron and sacrificed the Lib’s soul?

The Duke wrote:

Tbh I don’t think men mature ever. But to give us a bit of credit, I’d lower that to 30. I don’t think I even felt like an adult untill 30, even though by then I was married, had kids, been a marine, gone back to uni and was self employed. Probably wasn’t untill my wife first fell ill I felt liek I had to step up. Before then she was the adult, and I just done what she said. Or rather know how far my boundaries was. Though I bet she felt similar. We’re all just sort of winging it. No one one ever tells you at 18, that you may be an adult, but your a actually far from one.

I agree – but with a slightly different skew.

I didn’t get married until I was 31 and throughout my 20’s I was an adult, but lived my life as somewhat of a grown up kid. I had a job that paid the bills, I had a flat of my own, I’d had a couple of bikes, more than a few cars, I answered to no-one, did what I wanted, when I wanted – I was spoilt – and maybe a tad selfish.

That all changed when I got married, and once again when we had our son – you acquire new responsibilities. The only person I had been responsible for, or to, up to then was myself.

The expression ” Boys and their toys” applied to me in my youth and in my 20’s and I could afford to let it influence my choices. Come my 30’s and married life and fatherhood took precedence on my choices and options. Now I’m ‘sort of’ retired those choices and options are open again – the only difference is the wife joins in the conversation!! ?? She also has her ‘wish list’ which we balance against mine, but the boy is still looking for ( and getting ) his toys!!!??

@VFM I think you are wrong to just criticize the young.

The General Public in general have very little interest in politicians. If you ever watch the inane ‘Pointless’ TV show at 5:15 and name an MP ‘who has done this or that in such and such years’ then at least 80% of the general public haven’t got a clue if it isn’t TBLiar or Churchill as an answer. Name (say) any Home Secretary and the correct responses drop to 15% or lower.

‘Pointless’ state they use representative samples from the UK population.

The VFM Addict wrote:

However, if one thinks of one’s own younger years ……

Actually no, as I was brought up in the generation of protest. Many young people knew just as much as the older folk and probably more about the world in general as our teachers served in the War years, but the pressures to conform were huge and suppression was palpable.

Friends who joined in protest movements were noticeably less likely to get employed, and there was a well-whispered (and subsequently proven accurate) questionably legal black-list of such individuals. This blacklist ranged to my knowledge from political firebrands to naive fellow travellers. This was mainly applied in the engineering industries particularly construction. It was not applied equally as Jack Straw featured on that list!

+1 too many old pharts have been protected by the Conservatives at the expense of the future. There is an old saying : “You reap what you sow”.

Maybe this link will help some understand why many of the young generation are close to revolution.

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By austerity do you mean ‘swingeing spending cuts for everyone!! – except for us and our mates/sponsors!!’??

If so you could be right – oh it seems you already are.

The fear and trepidation held by people like myself – long standing labour supporters – of the prospect of a Corbyn/McDonnell government ( which is a Momentum government in all but name ) have been expressed on here and on other topics.

We agree on that but don’t need to hear how your ” ….rectifying government of the right to eventually replace it and the need for austerity.” will save the country, because what has it done for the NHS, teachers, Police, welfare, railways, etc over the past 9 years.

Interesting link Ed, but those young people are from the South East. Up here and in other areas, our young are just trying to get educational qualifications and/or work, wherever and whenever they can. I liken the views of the young man featured, to my own attraction to Communism at 15. Followed by complete rejection of all it stood for, when I realised the truth.

I believe that most MP’s are currently thinking about keeping their seats as a priority. They are akin to sheep: if only a few adventurous ones, looking for greener grass,  go through the hedge, the majority will favour the status quo. If and when the quo is no longer status, they will imitate rats departing a sinking vessel.

Ed, your brow is in the stratosphere when disparaging Pointless: I like the show, it’s harmless entertainment. Obviously you have not seen some of the younger ones who are obviously well educated. Admittedly there are some with less intelligence and knowledge than others, that’s life. TV shows that I do not like, I don’t watch, which includes Soaps, but I don’t judge the intelligence of people by their viewing habits.

Alexander Armstrong is a very funny comedian, Richard Osman has a sense of comedic timing and quick-fire humour which is almost as laboured as mine. Other than that, no criticism of the show was intended, it was just an attempt to show that the General Public’s knowledge and interest in the Politicians is pretty dire.

I can’t say I blame them given the calibre of our present shower of incompetents.