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December 10, 2018 at 5:49 pm #29027
Hello again. Sorry if I only come on here with problems. Here is another one for you. I have an old computer, ( Athlon 64 X2, ASUS m2n32-sli, 2gb ddr2, etc) which I have given a new hard drive and reinstalled Windows XP. I don’t think it can handle even Windows 7, so XP it is. Unfortunately it doesn’t seem to want to connect to the internet, so I can’t update it, or even activate it.
When I click on internet explorer (IE6) all I get is “the page cannot be displayed” – cannot find server. But I am connected directly via an ethernet cable to a Virginmedia Netgear Super Hub which is working perfectly well as I type this, ( on my other computer, which is a bit more up to date).
I’ve tried googling a solution but I can’t find anything that works. I’ve tried calling Virgin technical help but they say they don’t support windows XP. Can you guide me through this or point me at a website that can?Philosophy is the new rock and roll.
December 10, 2018 at 6:30 pm #29028Keep XP off the Internet. It will just end up being a bot. Xp OK for a non Internet connected device, but Not for connected devices. The more XP pc’s connected makes the Internet a less safe place for everyone.
December 10, 2018 at 7:09 pm #29031I understand that Duke, but how do I “activate” and update to sp3 without a connection?
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December 10, 2018 at 7:50 pm #29035You cannot activate it even if you have the Internet, M$ closed down the activation site when they withdrew support. T went that route with a 64Bit XP that I was trying to activate on a vm setup.
Your best bet is to stick a Linux distro on it, but even these have problems with XP era graphics drivers. Maybe Damn Small Linux will run but do not hold out your hopes.
December 10, 2018 at 8:12 pm #29038As Ed says, you don’t.
December 10, 2018 at 8:28 pm #29039Surely someone must do a download or disc with SP3 on it?
When this machine was last working, a few months ago, it was still receiving security updates! Are you saying I can never get it back to a working XP install? My desire is to have it running games that no longer function since Win 7 etc.Still, regardless of the problems, can any one tell me why Internet Explorer 6 cannot find the server? I’ve tried switching off the firewall, deleting all the temp files, enabling SSL 2 and 3, resetting winsock and god knows what else. It won’t connect with a direct cable connection to the hub, nor will it do so via wi-fi.
I’ve been fiddling about with it now for hours, I’ve got two networking controllers showing up in device manager, two local area connections showing up in network connections, (one calling itself local area connection 4) and am considering starting again with the windows install. An internet gateway shows up which claims to be connected, even showing a changing number of packets sent and received, but every time I open Internet Explorer, it says “the page cannot be displayed”.
Stranger still, there is a “search” pane on the left of the IE window which tells me that 1. Internet Explorer 6 Search Companion is no longer supported, but that I can search any time on Bing, which if I click on it produces a Bing search page in the pane! If I then click on any of the results… “the page cannot be displayed”. It’s infuriating.Philosophy is the new rock and roll.
December 10, 2018 at 9:04 pm #29042It’s all been shut down. Any site worth it’s salt will deny any connection from IE6, security wise it’s swiss cheese.
Firefox stopped supporting XP in Sept 2017, Chrome in April 2016.
It’s dead.
December 10, 2018 at 9:39 pm #29044But, but… Ebay is awash with Windows XP SP3 discs and COA’s. Are you telling me that they are all fake? You can buy PCs with XP on them from the same source for about £50. How are the refurbishers doing the install?
I have genuine, (my original) copies of XP home, and pro, and product keys for them. But they only take me as far as a clean install, which then requires activation, and update to SP3. I will be very sad to lose my old PC after buying a new hard drive for it. Surely the problem is something to do with my network settings, or something I’ve missed in advanced internet options…
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December 10, 2018 at 9:56 pm #29045XP is dead. End of.
Perhaps you need to talk to someone at Microsoft as you wont believe us. Try here https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/windowsforbusiness/end-of-xp-support
and here https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsforbusiness/end-of-ie-support
If you don’t like the answers then ask the snake oil salesmen on EBay because XP is DEAD.
December 10, 2018 at 10:40 pm #29046I am not saying that you are lying to me. I understand that XP is past its use by date, and appreciate the security vulnerabilities. But is there really no way of ressurrecting this PC? It started having problems a while ago, random crashes, blue screens of death, et al. I attempted a “repair” install on the original drive but this failed, and then it refused to boot. I bought a new drive, was pleased to find a 320Gb SATA for only £18.50 on Amazon, and proceeded to do a fresh install. But now I’ve hit this brick wall. Can’t connect to internet. Can’t update.
Looks like I’ll have to stop digging the same hole deeper and give it up as a bad job.
Thanks anyway.
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December 10, 2018 at 11:30 pm #29047?
XP really turned out to be a nightmare, such a shame as what came before it wasn’t half bad. The idea was to replace consumer orientated W95 / W98 and business orientated NT4 into one product. But they listened to the gaming lobby and kept XP open and allow anyone to be an administrator by default. Then they listened to the hardware manufacturers and lowered the hardware requirements and carried that stupid idea through to Vista).
December 11, 2018 at 12:15 am #29050My pc w3as realrove decent P4 at about 3.6Ghz iirc (it warmed my feet), and for me vista always ran fine. Preferred it to xp from day one. Then bi the time 7 came along 2 years later, vista was a fine os, that had a bad rap from the ‘vista ready’ stickers that shipped on terrible bearly capable stickers.
7 wouldn’t of ran anybetter on them than vista did.
I liked vista airo on two monitors, I was flash lol, (2x 800×400). Then I went to i7 920 for my next upgrade and its still going.
I’m thinking of giving shadow copy a go instead of building enouther high end pc. Promises to deliver high end pc on a thin client over the cloud.
It interests me quite alot. I just need to look into data protection etc and who if anyone has access to my data. Though I could do office work ony old first gen core I pc’s untill I die I think, and get some intrw low power pc’s and use a the gaming window.
It’s waort a look at £25pm. Sounds expensive at first, but give you’d pay a grand of a pc, and then have the high energy bill, it actully could make sense. If the latency issue isnt one.
December 11, 2018 at 8:32 am #29052Back on thread – what games do you have that cannot be run on Win7?
I’m guessing 16bit pnes and maybe DOS. If that is the case then you have other options:
For DOS there are a number of emulators that work just fine with modern rigs. e,g. DOSBox. My own personal preference is to run a full DOS virtual machine with a virtual floppy disk player. (you can still get USB floppy readers and they connect to vms.
For 16Bit, you could try ReactOS in VirtualBox. No guarantees on this one as ReactOS is very much beta software. The other thing to try is a VirtualBox in which you set up a fresh Win95 from Ebay – no activation or Internet issues with this one!
December 11, 2018 at 10:31 am #29054You might fare better with Windows 7 Basic:
Your old XP games might run on that. Whatever you do, you have to realise the truth in what everyone here is telling you: XP is dead, even if you could get it up and running it would be dangerous on the net.
There comes a time in the life of a system, when the system is no longer technologically viable. Your old PC has reached that point. I have just given away a base unit with an AMD Phenom X4 Black Edition that was a very good PC in its time, running off a Gigabyte ATX mobo with many bells and whistles. It had reached end of life, even though it was usable on a basic level, it was too old and behind the curve to be useful.
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I'm out.December 11, 2018 at 10:57 am #29055Just thought you may be trying to resuscitate an old business database or similar. If you are, then you will be better placed to look at the file extensions and see if there is any Win7/10 software that will access it. Failing that stick in a Live Linux CD. Linux has a lot of old file compatibility in its software library.
December 11, 2018 at 5:05 pm #29059I will throw in a couple of comments here. If you buy one of the Win XP-SP3 editions off Ebay, you can install it, and 28 days later, reset your PC’s clock to the starting date again. All the above objections still apply though.
Hardware. I also have an AMD Athlon-X2 based rig, bios date 2009, though it was 2 years later when I bought it. On it, I have only ever used Linux (Ubuntu 10.4 originally, but later Mint), now Mint 19. The on-board graphics could not keep up with probably, Mint 16, so in went a GT620 (now 720 I think).
Like you I had 2Gb of ram, but watching motoGP playback through “Simplescreenrecorder” failed on me this year (OK last year). An upgrade to 4Gb ram fixed that. — I think the programme must have been upgraded and “complexificated”.
So, in my opinion, nothing wrong with your hardware –YET. And when yours is too old, so will be mine.
Les.
December 11, 2018 at 5:40 pm #29060I had three old XP PCs until recently, one supported a scanner. A couple had the POS modification and all connected to the internet (unsafely) and the POS versions updated while I was not watching. I only wanted to check them over before scrapping them. I did put 7 onto two of them but aborted its use, as it was just not worth messing about with them, they were just far too slow for anything useful these days. So I salvaged the hard drives and WEEE-ed the remains at PC World. My wife wanted them gone but in truth it has made little difference to the clutter, so I clearly have more work to be done in that direction.
December 11, 2018 at 5:44 pm #29061Just been digging – I have found a copy of XP SP3 – which I or a friend may have downloaded when it was in vogue. I also have official MS SP1 and SP2 disks but the SP3 is home made. Had it for years I have no idea whether this will take you any further than anything you could buy on Ebay?
Anyone with views on this?
I too use an old XP PC about once a year – I have a labelling programme that won’t work under W7 and that PC is connected to the internet. To date no problems but I am aware …. !! I can’t really disagree with what far more knowledgeable people have said here. Currently I am still a hard & fast W7 user!!
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December 11, 2018 at 7:24 pm #29063IT Pro – How to securely run Windows XP software (2018.10.10)
– https://www.itpro.co.uk/microsoft-windows/32086/how-to-securely-run-windows-xp-software
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December 11, 2018 at 9:13 pm #29067I guess its not the games exactly, its the nostalgia. This old machine cost me a lot of money to build, 10 years ago, with its twin 8800 GTS in SLI. Its SATA RAID array, DVD writer, multi memory card reader and so on. It could do anything. Those were the days, when graphics cards were like motorbike engines and the CPU cooler was the largest component in the box. I don’t need it any more, it just feels like a terrible wrench to let it go.
But times change, and I don’t really have the time to go back over Command and Conquer, Syndicate Wars, Far Cry, Railroad Tycoon, Dungeon Seige, Rome-Total War and the rest. In any case I have plenty of new games on Steam that I can’t finish either.
Thank you for all your suggestions, I’ll try a bit of Ebay snake-oil to get it up to SP3/IE8 or better and I’ll see if I can get Win 7 to work on it. There is life in the old beast yet.Thank you, Duke, Ed, Dave, Bob, Les, Richard, dwynnehugh and wasbit.
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