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January 27, 2017 at 8:16 pm #2831
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Forumite Points: 0We’ve had BT Internet and a YouView box for a year or two now. And as we don’t use any of the fancy TV features, figure it’s time to change our provider.
I’m seeing Plusnet gives the same internet for £28, with some extras for inclusive phonecalls. That’s good, but what happens to the YouView box?
It’s used a lot to record TV, rewind and pause and the odd catch-up show too with iPlayer, ITV Catch-up etc. Will these features still work if we stop paying for BTs TV stuff?
January 27, 2017 at 8:19 pm #2832The Talk Talk one works fine with any provider, don’t know about BT but I can’t see why it shouldn’t work.
January 27, 2017 at 9:57 pm #2839My TT box -as never been plugged in in my house but been inservice over two years at the inlaws with no issue. They do have TT but not the TV service, but I may of used my credentials to set it up, I’m not sure.
If we had an aria In our house I’d defo use it, apart from being slow, and the re boot can be measured in cups of coffee , it’s actually a great easyto use box, well designed for a total non techie. I was impressed with it on install. And to it’s credit they use it every day, and I’ve not have one ‘help’ phone call about it. High praise indeed. But like when they was running mint, 2 years I never heard off them. Now they have windows it’s every 3rd week. :negative:
January 28, 2017 at 9:07 pm #2889Our BT box works fine been using talk talk for 6 months. We kept our BT box downstairs because of the recording and catch up features only the BT services dont work and we put the inferior TT box upstairs in the bed room.
Cheers Mark
January 28, 2017 at 9:21 pm #2891Side issue question FS, mind if I Hijack?
When my Sky contract ends and I move on, I know I have to return the Q Box and probably the router if I change bband ISP as well. What happens to the dish? I have seen other houses where someone moves and the dish is left there. If they leave it, would it be capable of receiving anything like Freesat? Or is it all coded to that dish?
I will defo return the Q Box, maybe not the router, although I have a VDSL router for FTTC in my bit boxes which still works fine. It’s just that the contract was for a good price, but Sky really bugga’d me about for weeks and I know the price will go up compared to now. And I still have an aerial, an Ethernet connection in the wall by the TV, and a NOWTV box. I will never go Sky again after this year, although I have enjoyed the Box Sets: GoT, lots more.
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I'm out.January 28, 2017 at 10:34 pm #2892When your contract ends the sky box and dish are yours. You will still receive free view (free sat) bit the DVR functions will be disabled along with the premium channels.
January 28, 2017 at 10:37 pm #2893I told you to not go sky and just use now TV box.
Discovery is about to pull all it’s channels from sky on the 31st of Jan, if sky and discovery don’t come to a deal . I bet that is going to piss alot of users off. I bet it will go down for a week and sky will cave and pay up . Then you’ll get a price hike the moth after :negative:
January 29, 2017 at 9:28 am #2904Anonymous
Forumite Points: 0Sky Q box you have to return.
January 29, 2017 at 12:56 pm #2913How come FS? I got of the sky game before Q.
Update. What a mess that interface is. I’d of sent it back in my first 30 days.
in about 2005 I recall seeing the sky server rumours, it was so needed with old muti room setup . its just not needed in today’s world of streaming.
that menu layout is terrible. sky’s problem is they nailed it out of the box in the 80s. I recall being so happy to get the redreshed new (now old) skyHD interface and it looked so much more modern, but in use it sucked in comparison. the old list system just worked smoother and faster, gave you loads of channels and programs for each channel all o one screen , for the newHD menus they stole ½ the screen for unnessessery “bling”, and gave you only ⅓ of the info per page . now they steal ⅔ for bling, and you get next to know practical info.
A central sky server was so needed back in the old mulriroom set up, I had 5 boxes at peak sky, and it was a real first world issue, for me to get in bed to realised MOTD was recorded down stairs , or that documenty was in the office.
I’m yet to see a better set up for “normal folk” than the you view box, I don’t have one, but that is basically the old sky menu system (don’t change what ain’t broke) , all the recording, time skipping and steaming is handled with you knowing , you just pick a time and scroll back to it and hit play.
The only thing it doesn’t do is the hand off, bit that could easily be interested with personal profiles. Like when you log into netfix.
The one doenside to you view, or with the box I got (but gave the mil) was its speed, but that is and may be fixed.
That Q interface is a pig, and far to technical, but pretty . Defo form over function .
I bet you can get use to it, and it’s them comes second nature, they all, do, but want the origanl sky menu and TV do is just mad it some , loads of info fast, and any monkey can use it.
The older I have got. The more I like my TV to be simple. Jen’s my love of roku. It passes the “wife” & “baby sitter” test, something I don’t thing the fire TV or Q does.
Box is a big provment though . Sucks you can’t keep it aftwards, the HDD would be handy.
January 29, 2017 at 2:40 pm #2916Yeah Sky have solved a problem I haven’t got anymore…I need less telly not more. Still got 2 boxes as you get Sky Go extra with it (otherwise fiver a month). In the process of re-doing my own distribution with an HDMI modulator using the old magic eye wiring round the house…shows up as an extra Free view channel..1080p at 16MB….plenty good enough, magic eyes still work. and free. May well bin the 2nd box and pay the Sky Go extra sub when its finished. Sky Q don’t interest me at all even though Sky are constantly pushing it at me.
January 29, 2017 at 3:24 pm #2919Beware — afaik you cannot use an hdmi modulator with Sqy Q (no port). There IS a blanked off port,, with warnings not to remove the blanking plate, but no info on what it does. You probably do not need it as you do get a mini-box for one TV and streaming to a pad or two.
January 29, 2017 at 5:19 pm #2928Ed I think you mean the old RF2 port or the IO adapter – the one I’m on about works off the hdmi port – needs a splitter – but uses the bog standard HDMI port. Output is RF but carried the Sky HD output (can by a Q box, Roku, PC, – anything HDMI) in to your RF distribution. I’m using this one. I used decent cable (Satellite WF100) when I ran all the old magic eye links in, and it is working fine – the old RF2 splitter amp worked too, but am replacing it with one using F-Type connectors as I trust them more.
January 29, 2017 at 5:56 pm #2935I forgot about the magic eye, to run tvs from one box, and that’s old school, but I post multitool. I always remeber cable (NTL) that served us back home had multiroom for free, and I was gutted when we moved to sky and it cost £10 per room. Especially when I had 5 to cover.
Growing up, pre sky digital, sky analogue,( was there such thing) When sky had white speckled interference, we had the sky eye to get tv into a second room.
Early 90s I think. When you had sky one (Sampsons and cops), one sky sport ch, euro sport, nicoladian/disny and the movie chanel. Think that was it.
Question for the OG crowd, was BSB and Sky differnt entities, originally as for some reason I recall sky had round dishes, and BSB square dishes. Did they merge, or am I remembering the late 80 wrong?
January 29, 2017 at 6:10 pm #2936you remember it right Duke. Tragically I remember my first Sky installation in my original flat. Me and my neighbour got a deal for 2 lots of kit off a local “business man” in Ilford – and spent about 8 hours wiggling a dish and saying left a bit right a bit to get it all working! I was only bothered about the sport and you got Sky Sports for £5/month. They bought out BSB (“Squarial”) and became British Sky Broadcasting.
Ahhh they were simpler times, before all this internet malarky.
January 30, 2017 at 4:13 pm #3008Been engaged in a panic situation: SWMBO’s lappy threw a wobbly thanks to junior grandbrat downloading a nasty.
Yes you did tell me about Sky Steve, unfortunately I listen to the voices in SWMBO’s head. :wacko: :whistle: She listens to no one except the girl grandbrats and dear daughter, which is why my advice to not put gdaughter on her lappy without Parental Control, was ignored.
I don’t dislike the programmes I can get with Sky, but I hate all the zillions of useless channels, many of which repeat the repeats that were repeated… well you know what I mean. I cannot find a way to cancel out the ones I don’t want, but I will. Sky told me I could not access the router webpage, but I found a way. I take the channel numbers I want and just select on the remote. I like the Box Sets, have recorded and Kept a lot. Watching Fortitude atm, also Quarry. Saved loads of stuff including Criminal Minds, enjoyed catching up all the Game of Thrones old episodes, waiting for Series 7 to go into Box Sets. Many of these will have been seen by most of you here, but I am playing Catchup with this stuff, so seeing it as new. But it will go at the end of the contract, although I will keep Sky broadband, phone and calls. After all my complaints and threats during the initial problems, Sky bband gave me twice as much download and a stable service. I still have the free Now TV box that I blagged from Currys, there is an ethernet port in the TV and a cable all ready in the wall, disconnected at both ends but ready to go. The year’s contract came at a good price because I took a TV in Curry’s and the whole Sky service: Bband, phone & calls. I haggled for almost 2 hours in Curry’s, with 3 staff and the manager, until I got the deal. Got up to walk out twice, but cracked them. It will not owe me a lot when I move, so no big deal. But my advice to anyone wanting Sky, is the same advice Steve gave me.
The Q Box is not bad actually, but I wished I had the 2 TB one, not the 1 TB. Its about 35% full now. I have kept all the boxes so I will be able to return anything. If I do close the service, I will have the cable rerouted, it’s all around the walls. The sky ‘engineer’ :negative: would not route it through the loft.
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I'm out.January 30, 2017 at 4:47 pm #3013When I was looking at the reviews of the Q box, one of the complaints that kept coming up was not being able to order your channels.
I’m not sure, but I but if you have a look on the now tv box there may be a sky go app. If so you can sign up for in to it with your sky log in and us it as a se one box. You can do this with roku.
You have to run your contact out, as you’ll pay full term whether you have it turned off or not. So you may as well keep it on.
I do think the Q interface looks very modern and “wowie”, but I can’t see it being great to use.
My in laws have just got a smart TV, the ui looks somthing like sky’s but the in-laws gave up on it and plugged their old free view box in about day 2.
They use and love the TT you view box I but in their lounge. It was a pain it isn’t wifi, so I had to buy then a small passport router, which acts as a wifi bridge to their router. That actually is a great device. Must of been chugging along for 2 years now, and they haven’t called me. Can’t recall what it’s offical name is. Think Dave recommended it. I will look it up, it does about 4 tasks.
Here it is, super useful bit of kit
TP-LINK TL-WR802N Wireless 300 Mbps Pocket Travel Router/Range Extender/AP/TV Adapter – Blue/White https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00TQEX8BO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_-62JybR5NCFK6
January 30, 2017 at 5:14 pm #3018Duke – no SkyGo on Roku – nowtv yes but no SkyGo – only Playstation or Xbox outside the PC and mobile platforms.
January 30, 2017 at 6:02 pm #3019As you use your sky id to sign into Now tv, does that activate the now tv packages, give they are actually sky packages?
In theory it should, God knows in practice?
January 30, 2017 at 6:38 pm #3022NowTV and SkyGo totally separate mate. Both Sky owned……but NowTV is the PAYG option and SkyGo [Extra] is what you get if you have a full Sky sub – the content available on Sky go mirrors your subscription up to 2 devices live streaming (no downloading). If you have Sky Go Extra (either 2 Sky boxes or 1 box + £5/month) then you have up to 4 devices all recording and 2 streaming at any one time).
Sky Go is pretty good – both my lads live away and have a full Sky package via the internet, as does my Pal in the States. Works on PC, mobile and (best) on Playstation and Xbox. But it is a separate thing to Now TV.
I’m very much inclined to drop my 2nd Sky box and pay the £5 Sky Go Extra sub once my current wiring project is finished. I could probably do without it all together but one step at a time. My wiring project is calso catering for a post-Sky world……I need to stop loving cricket.
January 31, 2017 at 1:32 pm #3065I used to use sky Go alot, When working away, it worked a charm aslo they could handle really slow bandwidth, and modulate it on the fly. Just as Netflix and yt do.
Also use to use it on the ipad2 in my bar, it’s A bit very old building, and the bar is tiny 12″ x 12″ so it doesn’t have a TV, the TV is in the smoking room, so I’d often take the ipad out to watch his us in Europe, (yes it wad a while ago).
I going back 5 plus years and sky had it right. Now tv must use the same backbone I bet (why would they not) and that too is excellent.
I swear skys HD stream on both Go and Now is better than than the picture on the actual HD channel, if you have enough bandwidth.
Now they have HDultra I recon that may be a little differnt today, but still their Normal HD is stood up by their web service HD picture. It’s very good on my average 1080p TV.
If you put your roku in to dev mode, you can monitor, on the fly, the speed of your line, and what resolution your reciving. And maybe the bit rate too? Tho I’m not sure of that.
When trouble shooting my roku lt (1) back in the day I stumbled across that feature. I may reinstate it on the roku 3,as I’d be intrested to see if sky is pushing out a 1080p stream or 720p, as their own tv HD is 720p or at least was when i last had sky tv in about 2014ish.
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