Reviving an Eee PC

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  • #26167
    Bob WilliamsBob Williams
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      @bullstuff2
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      I have an Asus Eee PC X101CH.     http://tinyurl.com/y9vzjgew

      As it has a 320 GB Hdd and is 1080P, I would like to use it as a recording device from my ION record deck, to store all my vinyl. It was my senior granddaughter’s and she successfully wrecked it, to the point at which I cannot get into the Bios or out of the login screen, as she has lost the password! I have tried all the resolutions from the net and all the YT videos, nothing works. Pressing F9 at boot gets me nowhere, F8 and F2 the same. I got into the BIOS once, but the keyboard Page Up/Down keys do not work. I also found that the “U” key does not work. I cannot get into the Recovery option on the Hdd, being unable to enter BIOS. have used the “Accessibility” feature to insert an onscreen KB and that works, but he several versions of password I tried, are incorrect. I have a backup of the original which I made when GD bought the thing. I have made an ISO of Windows 7 Starter and transferred that to both a USB and CD disk, but cannot get into Windows to load it. I have the COA on the base.

      Visiting ASUS UK Support gave me all the Drivers I need to set it up again. Ideally, I would like to format the thing and load Windows Starter, maybe upgrade the RAM from 1GB and possibly u/g to Win7 Home 32. Anyone know how I can get into this little monster?

      TY for all advice guys.

      When the Thought Police arrive at your door, think -
      I'm out.

      #26170
      TipponTippon
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        It sounds like you’ve got two problems – the password and the keyboard. The keyboard has a simple workaround, plug in a USB keyboard. I’m pretty sure the eee PC recognises them in time for the BIOS.

        It sounds like the password is a Windows password, as you can get the accessibility keyboard. If so, you can either just forget about it if you’re going to reinstall, or you can use ophcrack to crack the password. It’s essentially a Linux live disc, but it cracks Windows passwords. You can get it here:

        http://ophcrack.sourceforge.net/

         

        #26175
        The DukeThe Duke
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          @sgb101
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          I’d want an ssd in it, so unless it’s important to get into windows, I’d chuck an ssd in, cheapest smallest one, 120gb, and put a fresh version of windows on.

          I’d try 10 on it first. If that fails 7 or Ubuntu. I use to Like the netbook remix of Ubuntu.

          If that fails, If your just looking at sites where you don’t use any credit cards, etc.. I’d set up a wifi guest network (keep it off your main one) and put xp on it. Shouldn’t really cos you could add to the bot issue, but you know enough to keep it safe.

          I recon 10 would work thought.

          #26180
          Dave RiceDave Rice
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            @ricedg
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            You cannot upgrade the ram, it’s soldered to the motherboard. The machine is not designed to be worked on.

            It’s had it’s day Bob.

            #26185
            Ed PEd P
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              @edps
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              I tried to resuscitate an EEPC but completely failed.  Mine died because the early model I had included a 4GB SSD that had reached its write limit and slowly dealt out an increasing amount of corruption until it died.

              #26189
              PlaneManPlaneMan
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                @planeman
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                My 7″ Eee is still working, last time I checked about 6 months ago. It feels like a Fisher Price toy now.

                #26200
                Bob WilliamsBob Williams
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                  @bullstuff2
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                  Thanks guys, you are basically confirming what I thought. Taking Dave’s advice and giving it up, apart from a strip down and maybe rescue the Hdd, which is 320GB. I can either put that into my desktop, or connect to my 1TB external SATA and format it, after Check disc takes a look at it.  Bound to find a use for it, hopefully.

                  Which option would be best, what does The Team think? I could sell it minus Hdd as Spares or Repairs on Fleabay.

                  When the Thought Police arrive at your door, think -
                  I'm out.

                  #26232
                  Ed PEd P
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                    @edps
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                    Donate it to the National Museum of Computing, or the Retro Museum in Leicester.

                    #26241
                    Dave RiceDave Rice
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                      @ricedg
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                      Bob, I use this £6 USB 3 Hard Drive Enclosure from Amazon. To stop thinner drives moving about it comes with a sticky felt pad.

                      I loved reading the 1 star review. The idiot thought they were getting storage not just a case. For six quid? ?

                      #26247
                      Bob WilliamsBob Williams
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                        @bullstuff2
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                        Many thanks Dave, just what I needed, bagged it!

                        That moronic reviewer was representative of those who do not read the item description properly, just see what they want to see. I have read worse, but Amazon always tries to please. I wonder if a refund had been given if it was an expensive item.

                        BTW I have stripped the Eeeeeeeeek! PC and saved the Hdd. Here’s hoping I can do something with it. Not strictly necessary, but gives me an activity and I do love taking stuff apart to see what can be salvaged. Do we ever grow up?

                        When the Thought Police arrive at your door, think -
                        I'm out.

                        #26252
                        RichardRichard
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                          @sawboman
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                          Dave, I agree you have to laugh, for £6, I thought that it was a bargain for what it does offer, though not having many USB 3 devices reduces its appeal to me – that and already having an empty USB2 portable drive case.

                          #26253
                          PlaneManPlaneMan
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                            Do we ever grow up?

                            No.

                            I have no intention of growing up. I do grown up things, pay bills, try too look after the family and all that.

                            In my head I can still climb trees, fall from them and bounce. I can jump huge sand dunes, land on my face and laugh it off. Almost everything still amazes me, even though I understand most of it. A plane flying, for example. It’s crazy, even though I get the theory behind it all.

                            Probably my autism but I’m not complaining this time.

                            #26285
                            Bob WilliamsBob Williams
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                              @bullstuff2
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                              Good to know I’m not alone Nolan!

                              Always been interested in flight, so I know what you mean there. My dad had his first flight in 1912 in the place he grew up; Wolstanton, Stoke. It has a huge green space, left in perpetuity to the people and not to be developed. That space is where an early aviation pioneer, Samuel Franklin Cody, chose to fly his string bag of an aircraft, offering free flights to local kids who would help him pack at the end of the day. Only dad and his brother dared to volunteer and the experience coloured his whole life. In 1953 we were on holiday in Blackpool and dad took me to the then Squires Gate Airport, for a flight in a De Havilland Dragon Rapide biplane, over the Irish Sea, around the Isle of Man twice and back to Blackpool. Dad was severely chastised by mum for that, because he had sneaked me away without telling her what we were going to do.

                              That experience hooked me as it had hooked dad in 1912, at the same age too! It led to joining the Army Air Corps and learning all about the Theory of Flight,* wing and rotor surfaces and why they are shaped just so.

                              *ToF is simple in its basics: Lift and Thrust have to overcome Mass (weight) and Drag. It’s a lot more complicated than that in reality, but that is the essence.

                              And it was my dad who said to me “Never grow up son, people expect too much of you!” ??

                              When the Thought Police arrive at your door, think -
                              I'm out.

                              #26451
                              Bob WilliamsBob Williams
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                                @bullstuff2
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                                Reviving the Revival!

                                Dave: thank you for the link to the 2.5″ enclosure, for those who don’t want to scroll back, it’s this:

                                http://tinyurl.com/yajzenad

                                Great piece of kit, not often that comes as smart in use and smart to look at, case has a nice “touchy feel”:

                                Top cover is on right, slides over when the Hdd is pushed in, firmly, fits flush to the end of travel and it’s well made. Using it tomorrow with my USB/SATA 3.5″ enclosure, whilst SWMBO is (hopefully) at hairdressers.

                                Also bought another piece of kit from same seller, to insert into desktop. For the money, this is a comprehensive package:

                                http://tinyurl.com/y7fpc9mh

                                Metal brackets and Screws in bag, mounted Hdd to Eeeeeek!PC. I save everything usable, rest of that POS is at WEE depot. If you look closely, there is even a small magnetised screwdriver in the box. One SATA cable is straight, t’other is  right angled. These kits are so good, they must be German?

                                Quite chuffed, price and quality is great. Will use this Amazon seller again, UK site does not have many products but Canada and USA does:

                                http://tinyurl.com/y8vd3s5j

                                 

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                                #26452
                                Dave RiceDave Rice
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                                  @ricedg
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                                  Glad you like it, I keep going back to that enclosure. I may well be needing one of those 2.5 to 3.5 kits soon, now I know where to go ?

                                  #26480
                                  RichardRichard
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                                    @sawboman
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                                    I have bought a couple of such cases over the last couple of years. They have all been to a high standard. This example is one of the cheapest, yet shows a level of quality and completeness that is very hard to fault. I already have several 3.5 inch external drives, that have not come out of their hiding place in several years, some with once useful sized drives. So it would be hard to justify purchasing a case and an SSD, even though it would make a very tempting package, but I am not sure how or why I could make use of it now. One to ‘think about’ I guess.

                                    #26533
                                    Bob WilliamsBob Williams
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                                      @bullstuff2
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                                      I have finally finished preparing the 320GB ex-EePC drive and learned a bit more in doing it. It had 2 separate main drives and attached to each was a Hidden drive, one of which contained the original Asus Recovery, although what the other contained is still a complete mystery, as I could not remove it. I had to resort to buying Easeus Master Partition Manager in order to merge the main drives “H” and “I” and this removed the first Hidden Drive by incorporating that into the Merge, within the new, larger “H” drive partition. It also recreated the MBR. However, the second Hidden drive could not be removed, but is listed as ‘inactive’ so I simply wiped it and left it alone: it is very small so I cannot see it causing problems.

                                      Quite pleased with Easus MPM, apart from the fact that a “Pending” operation does not seem to end! Eventually I just Exited and checked the drive on Windows Explorer: it had created the new larger drive OK. Checked the drive with Checkdisc, it’s fine. Now to install it in my desktop, but not before I finish completing an older desktop that I intend to sell cheaply on local FB. This is a project I began some time ago, I am aware that older PC’s do not fetch a good price so will price it at around £50 and take whatever, just to remove it for space.

                                      I have to keep my remaining brain cells alive during the chemo by doing stuff, but have to report that I am feeling quite well atm. Even my normally gammy left leg is behaving, which means I can take more exercise and hopefully help the treatment programme by keeping my engine going.

                                      When the Thought Police arrive at your door, think -
                                      I'm out.

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