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    Dave RiceDave Rice
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      @ricedg
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      The Mrs finally got fed up of the dodgy screen on her Lenovo. I looked at taking it apart but was pretty confident it wouldn’t all go back together again! For starters, to stop keyboard bounce they stuck the back of the keyboard to a chassis arm.

      She like the look of a refurb HP 8470P I’d bought our daughter to go to Uni with so we looked for something similar (mag alloy chassis not black plastic). I’ve used Micro Dream many times so we started there.

      What leapt out immediately was a HP EliteBook 840 G1 14-inch Ultrabook (Intel Core i5-4200u 4th Gen, 8GB Memory, 180GB SSD, WiFi, WebCam, Windows 10 Professional 64-bit) and it was available via Amazon for £319. That was 10pm on Thursday night, it arrived this morning.

      It looks like new and goes like sh1t off a shovel. The screen is superb, I just wish it could have been a 1600 x 900 but that’s being picky. The metal touchpad just shows how all touchpads should be and the keyboard lights up in low light. The WiFi is only N but it’s dual band 300 with decent antenna so goes very nicely with my UAP.

      I just wish more people would trust me when I say buy refurbished!

      #25149
      PlaneManPlaneMan
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        @planeman
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        Totally agree about refurb stuff, some great deals out there.

        #25150
        Bob WilliamsBob Williams
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          @bullstuff2
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          Visited several resellers a few times and very impressed at the “bang for bucks” value at Micro Dream, which seems to have a more professional appearance than others . When I finally get around to retiring desktops, I will look again.

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          #25151
          Wheels-Of-FireWheels-Of-Fire
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            @grahamdearsley
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            Just plain second hand stuff can be a bargain too.

            A couple of months ago I wanted to add recording capability to my new smart TV so I was looking for an SATA hard drive to go in a USB caddy I already had. I was going to buy a new drive but I was walking past my local CEX shop and saw a 500GB Seagate drive in the window so I thought i’d give it a punt.

            After running the Seatools diagnostic and updating the firmware I put the drive into service recording TV and it has been faultless.

            I wasn’t realy worried what type of drive it was but it turns out to be a Seagate Pipeline H.2 that was designed for low pwer, low noise media streaming.

            And the cost of all this ? £8 !

            #25152
            Dave RiceDave Rice
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              @ricedg
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              4 years ago for a project for the local nick I needed a load of PCs to run a remote desktop client and play low res MP4 via VLC, but it had to be 24/7. So I bought some Lenovo ThinkCentre M58p Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0GHz SFF desktops from them.

              They must be 10 years old at least but they just sit there chugging away. The same can be said for the Ubiquiti APs that join them all together.  I’ve never had to touch any of it since the day it was commissioned.

              #25154
              RSBRSB
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                @bdthree
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                If I go out for a few afternoon pints I always end up in cash converters and leaving with a laptop. Last one was this. I just can not justify new price’s, I begrudge paying for new unless it’s a very sspecial deal.

                The above laptop is mint without a mark except mine is a pearly white colour and I reckon that seller is being very optimisitic with his buy now price. Mine was £130 ish. I have 2 of these now for some reason.

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                #25155
                Ed PEd P
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                  @edps
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                  I just wish more people would trust me when I say buy refurbished!

                  No you don’t – that would push prices up. Lets keep it as a money saving secret!

                  #25217
                  The DukeThe Duke
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                    @sgb101
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                    I’m with Ed, keep it a secret. Lol.

                    #25242
                    The VFM AddictThe VFM Addict
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                      @thevfmaddict
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                      You don’t need to convince me either, Dave. I’ve never bought a new lappie and never would. Let someone else take the financial hit that occurs when the box a new laptop comes in is opened. You can almost see a large chunk of money floating off instantly into the sky.

                      Besides laptops of the nature of their typical use suffer more physical abuse than a desktop. Kitchen tables are dangerous places for such wee things. I would hazard a guess that far less than 5% of laptops ever survive to what should be their usable life. Laptop keyboards, always a vulnerability, these days are not as easily replaced as they once were. So bash them too hard, give them a taste of one’s coffee or the wayward cat’s claws lift a keycap or two and it is quite often exit laptop stage left to trash can; after the ram and sdd/hd has been removed of course.

                      A refurb/used lappie in good to excellent condition seems to me the only rational choice. Less cost at the outset and less loss when the inevitable occurs. And when the inevitable does occur simply go grab another one.

                      Looking at the market though such opportunities are diminishing almost by the day.   A lot of folks who once had company laptops are now issued instead with tablets.   So the number of ex-company laptops on the market is very noticeably falling.   I can name around a half dozen used laptop retailers in the UK who have in the last eighteen months ceased trading totally or at least in that sector.   The ones that remain seem in general to have less stock.   Sad.

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                      #25252
                      Bob WilliamsBob Williams
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                        @bullstuff2
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                        My SWMBO’s Lenovo has an online manual which demonstrates how to remove and replace any part, shows how to strip it down and gives all part numbers for replacement. That gives me hope for its future, providing my hands do not get any worse!

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                        #25254
                        Dave RiceDave Rice
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                          @ricedg
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                          It very much depends model by model. On my V110 the whole back comes off but it’s a very scary experience as it’s clearly designed not be worked on. When it’s off most parts are there to see, but wires and those damn flat cables snake everywhere. You cannot remove the battery, you have to electrically disable it.

                          With the HP 840 you push a locking slider and the whole back slides off gracefully exposing everything you can work on in a tidy manner. The battery is under there too but it’s removable with the usual two locking sliders.

                          #25255
                          The DukeThe Duke
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                            @sgb101
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                            One of the great things about loving thank pads is they jiat ain’t hip. Many won’t by them because of the “old fashioned” looks as my son says.

                            I don’t care, I just love the keyboard and the nub. I really don’t care how it looks.

                            #25306
                            blacklion1725blacklion1725
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                              Back on Dave’s original post I am in the market and having a gander on Amazon and ebay looks like there’s a fair few variants of this. Dave would you have a link to the one you got (even if it is a different seller/price). It would be replacing my Asus S200e (doesn’t owe me anything and will itself replace our communal laptop). On the WiFi – I move a lot of large media files around between devices so really want/need AC at a decent speed. If the WiFi upgradable (internally – i.e. a card swap).  Have the Intel AC7260 card in mine and would ideally like similar – but I know in the Lenovo refurbs they won’t stand for a non-standard WiFi card (well my old X220 didn’t anyway). Ta!

                              #25307
                              Dave RiceDave Rice
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                                @ricedg
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                                Here’s the link to the Amazon page http://tinyurl.com/ycxb4qou and the Micro Dram ditect website (options on hardware / warranties) http://tinyurl.com/ybdqzuer

                                Unfortunately, like Lenovo, the WiFi hardware is white listed in the BIOS.

                                #25308
                                blacklion1725blacklion1725
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                                  @blacklion1725
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                                  Cheers Dave – appreciate it. Its a bugger about the Wifi – do you know if that would also apply to a USB adapter? Still very tempted especially seeing a it has a nup/nipple as well as the touchpad. £273 seems a steal.

                                  #25347
                                  blacklion1725blacklion1725
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                                    @blacklion1725
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                                    Took the plunge and ordered one (Amazon – £2 more for prime delivery tomorrow). Regards the Wireless, I’m sure I can suffer it if needs be, but have a bit of optimism as the service manual includes several variants of the Intel AC7260 in the spares – have that in my current laptop so hoping I can recycle it. Worth a pop anyway.

                                    #25350
                                    RichardRichard
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                                      @sawboman
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                                      While I can understand the issue with an internal WiFi device not being white listed by the BIOS, external ones are sold specifically to overcome the issues of an inbuilt one failing, being missing  or falling short on performance. I can see no reason why an external USB device should not work, subject only to ensuring that the USB is compatible, (i.e. USB version 2 not version 3). They are quiet inexpensive at >£20 for a range of well known makers. So if you need one to try when the device arrives if the WiFi is too slow, there is good reason to be optimistic. After all you can usually use a USB mouse to bypass a tracker pad should you so wish.

                                      #25351
                                      blacklion1725blacklion1725
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                                        Thanks Richard – was thinking/hoping along those lines. First order of business will be to see how it goes “as is” – then if needs be try the internal AC card from my Asus, then (if 1 and 2 not a success) try a USB adapter. Luckily the new machine looks very easy to work on so easy enough to try all this.

                                        #25352
                                        Dave RiceDave Rice
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                                          @ricedg
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                                          Don’t forget the same card does Bluetooth, bu there is an AC7620 in the specs that could have been supplied in later or the i7 1600 x 1200 version and it’s on Amazon

                                          It has USB3 so no problem there if that fails.

                                          #25353
                                          blacklion1725blacklion1725
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                                            @blacklion1725
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                                            Great shout – thanks Dave. My curent card just shows up as “AC7620” – not sure of the variant till I open it up (not too bad on the Asus S200e but not 5 minutes either). Would be great to have the HP with AC – not the end f the world but use the laptop to shunt biggish video files round my home network so faster the better. Out of interest and not at all urgent – did yours turn up “bloated” or is it resaonably “lean” windows? thanks again.

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