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August 12, 2018 at 10:16 am #24616
After trying various tricks to get my NFS media drive to show up in owncloud (running on a Pi, with the NFS drive served by another Pi), I managed to kill write access even by the admin user to the personal filestore, and decided to give up. I created a new admin user, deleted the old, and then logged into the owncloud Pi to clean up the files. Deleted the old admin folder, and therein lies the problem.
I’d forgotten that one of the things I’d done to try was to mount the NFS inside the user files on the owncloud server. Result, I wiped the NFS drive.
All of my music, movies, picture and my retropie rootfs folder gone.
Fortunately, after some hunting, I found an nfsbak folder on the other NFS drive, including Music, Pictures, Videos and the retro folder.
As an aside, started to copy it back from the commandline and it was predicting an age for the job. Aborted, fired up filezilla (FTP) and started the restoration that way. Much faster. It’ll still take a while (200Gb), but phew, thank goodness I had presence of mind to back it up in the first place.
The errant mount has also now been removed. Won’t be doing that again.
Arch Linux, on a Ryzen 7 1800X, 32 GB, 5 (yes -5) HDs inc 5 SSDs, 4 RPi 3Bs + 1 RPi 4B - one as an NFS server with two more drives, PiHole (shut yours), Plex server, cloud server, and other random Pi stuff. Nice CoolerMaster case, 2 x NV GTX 1070 8GB, and a whopping 32" AOC 1440P monitor.
August 14, 2018 at 12:02 pm #24683Yep – nothing like a good clean-up of the files to undo all your careful set-up and possibly backup arrangements.
Acronis have a very stupid incremental backup system and no clean-up utility. Any file cleaning is definitely risky with that (not recommended) software.
August 15, 2018 at 10:56 am #24714Acronis have a very stupid incremental backup system and no clean-up utility. Any file cleaning is definitely risky with that (not recommended) software.
@edps – can you please expand on that because until my fibre goes in next week and I start using cloud services to duplicate my backup regime, Acronis differential back up is what I use.Cheers
August 15, 2018 at 11:24 am #24715Backups can use a LOT of space – at least 3 times the storage you are protecting as a rule of thumb. My comment was addressed to local backup (not Cloud). In this situation over time your backups may grow and eventually reach the capacity of your drives and a clean-up is required. (full backups are done every so often and you need to allow for these as well as incremental storage)
Acronis allows you to specify backup chain length, but when you are using incremental backup this does nothing to specify total backup size.
If Acronis had a decent manual backup cleaner in addition to its automatic cleaning, running out of disk space would not be an issue, and file deletion would be accompanied by relinking the backup database. When I was using Acronis 2017 it had no such utility and any manual backup cleaning was to say the least a dangerous exercise as Acronis barfs if it finds any step in the backup chain to be missing. i.e. your backup becomes unrecoverable – Acronis 2012 had no such problems, they only came in when Acronis went Cloudy.
If the size of your changes between backups is small then Acronis may be ok — mine are not.
Cloud MAY also be ok
To cut it short, I dropped Acronis in favour of Macrium.
August 15, 2018 at 12:06 pm #24717I have used Macrium Reflect making backup images to my hoary old Zyxel nsa310 NAS for years, backing up my desktop, SWMBO’s laptop and No.2 grandson’s various PC’s. I set it to delete any backups above 5 and have never had a problem.
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I'm out.August 15, 2018 at 4:17 pm #24720Thanks for that Ed, – I use their differential backup scheme, [(1 x full + 2 x diff over a three week period ) x 2] but the changes are small – a few documents/pictures, etc.
Google Photos/Drive has duplicated my picture backups, along with some important documents to One Drive, but these uploads are bandwidth hogs on a 16/1 Meg connection.
With the fibre connection I will get a 36/10 Meg which will make any Cloud based systems a lot more transparent.
I’ll have a quick look over Macrium and maybe have that too!
August 15, 2018 at 7:03 pm #24722Mine was a manual backup. i.e. Copied the whole lot to another drive. The files rarely change or get added to, so minimal loss in the event of a failure, or a fault on the opposite side of the keyboard to the screen, in this case.
Of course, Plex took longer to reindex than the actual restore, but it’s all good, now 🙂
Arch Linux, on a Ryzen 7 1800X, 32 GB, 5 (yes -5) HDs inc 5 SSDs, 4 RPi 3Bs + 1 RPi 4B - one as an NFS server with two more drives, PiHole (shut yours), Plex server, cloud server, and other random Pi stuff. Nice CoolerMaster case, 2 x NV GTX 1070 8GB, and a whopping 32" AOC 1440P monitor.
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