stick metal to glass (heat resistant)

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July 26, 2018 at 7:13 pm #23458
johnbarry
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Parkinson Cowan 500 GLX Gas Cooker

Mom’s bottom oven (outer door) glass keeps dropping off.

Dad lost the original bracket, so he made his own. The glue he used to stick it to the glass keeps giving in. Their are two and the one factory attatched, it looks like they used a glue gun type material.

What’s the best glue to stick metal to glass (oven front) heat resistant.

I did find this, any advice appreciated, I need to be certain as it dropped today and gashed moms leg.

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John
July 26, 2018 at 8:25 pm #23471
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I looked on Ebay and found the same stuff you’re looking at – HERE – they give a comprehensive detail and explanation, along with the fact that ebay shows over 10,000 sales. They also offer a telephone helpline.

I don’t think you can go wrong and if I needed some, I would definitely get it from there.
July 26, 2018 at 8:32 pm #23473
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Nice one JayCee

I’ll get that then.

Cheers
John
July 26, 2018 at 9:25 pm #23482
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The bracket dad has is DIY, I was just searching the internet for a manufacture bracket.

I got as far as these and they want SN mom can’t find it.

Can any one help in my search for a Parkinson Cowan 500 GLX Main Oven Outer Door (metal) to Glass Brackets

Cheers
John
July 26, 2018 at 10:33 pm #23490
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John – any chance you could photo the DIY bracket so we can see what it looks like. Normally the inner glass oven door fits into a recess in the rear of the door and then two short pieces of metal are screwed into the door frame to keep it in place. I think the ones on our cooker are about an 1″ long and have a hole in one end to take the mounting screw.

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July 26, 2018 at 10:38 pm #23491
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Is it anything like this one?

The price is absolutely ridiculous though.

Just realise that it is the outer door in your case – sorry about that.

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July 26, 2018 at 11:04 pm #23497
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We have an appliance parts shop in Grimsby that has everything for every appliance sold in the UK john. Is there one like that near you? Might be easier to buy a whole new door?

The Grimsby shop found me 4 new control knobs and a grill for our 8 yo Belling, no problem. Inside, it’s like Aladdins Cave for appliance parts, components everywhere and all labelled.

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July 27, 2018 at 12:19 am #23498
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When I had a look at the model, a new door was about £160!

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July 27, 2018 at 6:54 am #23500
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Thanks Dave & Bob

Dave It is only a normal bracket he is using (if I remeber rightly) god knows how he gets it , I think possibly he glues both sides?. Maybe once fixed thats it, until it gives way (as it is) I was looking for the correct so he could screw it.

Bob the price of the doors or glass (as Dave) you may aswell by a new cooker.

Not sure when I will go round next, I will take a pic but I think it’s something like the below, he showed me yesterday.

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John
July 27, 2018 at 7:19 am #23502
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I just thought I can take a pic of the exsisting one, I will try later (they not up till after 10am)

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John
July 27, 2018 at 1:44 pm #23551
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I think the price that I quote was for a complete new door assembly – there was also something about ‘repaired doors’ liable to explode / shatter as well. HSA gets its foot in the door again!!

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July 27, 2018 at 2:09 pm #23559
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If they get scratched at any point in their life, then the shattering issue becomes a real live threat. The skin effect on the glass holds a lot of internal stress inside the glass; break that and the integrity is lost and a bang results. Rough cleaning or poor handling is the usual cause cited. Simply bonding an element to the glass should not be an issue, though removing any old material could be where an issue arises.
July 27, 2018 at 7:23 pm #23604
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This is the exsisting bracket

Cheers
John
July 28, 2018 at 5:37 pm #23698
Bob Williams
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Handbook if you don’t have it John, download from here:

http://tinyurl.com/ya5gdnjt

Can’t find a door anywhere under £90 and that includes my old mate at Domestic Supplies back in Mansfield. I used to be able to get anything for any White Goods there, but he has doors as “unavailable”. I have sent an email to the Grimsby shop we use, they have parts that are listed by others as unavailable. Does not open again until Monday, so I will let you know if he can help and will give you the website to order: he delivers using couriers.

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July 28, 2018 at 7:29 pm #23703
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Thanks Bob

I browsed the handbook cheers.

Thanks for your time and investigation (I do apprecite it), I think it may be too late, should you find the bracket or door/glass.

The Silicone on JayCee’s link (above) arrived today, once mom finishes using the cooker I think dad will use his DIY bracket.

His bracket does the job, the glue (passed used) has been no good. I just thought, to look for an original bracket for him to use.

Mom hopes the silicone works for good this time, she is running out of skin on her leg for the glass to lodge in.

Cheers
John
September 1, 2018 at 8:31 pm #25470
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An Epoxy glue like Araldite should work well and it is extremely heat resistant. Just make sure the surface is grease free and that you get the standard Araldite, not the rapid.
September 1, 2018 at 8:43 pm #25471
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Thanks Graham the Silicone on JayCee’s link (above) seemed to stick it, the oven has been used many times since and it’s still stuck solid.

Cheers
John
September 1, 2018 at 11:38 pm #25473
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Wheels-Of-Fire wrote:

An Epoxy glue like Araldite should work well and it is extremely heat resistant. Just make sure the surface is grease free and that you get the standard Araldite, not the rapid.

Graham – the only problem with using Araldite is that it’s working temperature range is only up to 204C :-

Araldite® EP 300 A/B Adhesive is an extrudable, two-component, roomtemperature curing epoxy adhesive designed for service temperatures up to 400°F (204°C).

The silicon I linked to in the first post has a range up to 300C, a temperature only reached on some self-clean programmes on ovens. They normally only go up to 250C on a cook setting.
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