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  • #20992
    johnbarryjohnbarry
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      @johnbarry
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      My partner has an appointment to see an Oncologist (for Radio Therapy)

      This is at a local hospital we haven’t been to since my heart surgery (2009-2010).

      You enter the grounds find a car park, (near your ward) take a ticket and barrier lifts and pay on leaving.

      We went on a dummy run to find the outpatients zone.

      As soon as we entered the hospital it now has a ANPR Camera, no warning, no explanation other than This Car park Is Private Property, see signage in car park for terms & conditions. The sign on the camera says No Through Road Automatic Number Plate Recognition In Use. I am not in a car park I am using the road round the hospital where there a 6 car parks off the road (these were where I would previously park)

      We continued round the road passing the zone we were looking for and exited the hospital.

      On exit was another ANPR. I didn’t use a car park (never stopped) just having a pre run.

      On one thought it seems on entry all the ground is a car park, yet the are 6 car parks P1-P6 and it states see signage in car park.

      I am confused why it says (on entry) this car park, yet it says see signage in car parks. Yet it’s zapped me.

      Am I going to have a fine I think it’s Parkopedia.

       

      Cheers
      John

      #20994
      JayCeeDeeJayCeeDee
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        @jayceedee
        Forumite Points: 230

        Don’t wait until something comes through your letterbox. Phone either the hospital or the parking company and tell them what you’ve written here, telling them that if they look at the time stamps they will see that you didn’t have time to park.

        Be pro-active and get in touch. It’s always harder to fight it after the fact.

        iirc you had a post, either here or on MM about a dash camera – do you have one and was it running?? If so that’s evidence to back you up.

        #20996
        johnbarryjohnbarry
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          @johnbarry
          Forumite Points: 13

          Thanks JayCee

          Maybe a good idea, I am not sure who the parking company is, I am sure it is parkopedia, I have been back since to snap the signs and didn’t go in faar enough to see the sign who runs it.

          Cheers
          John

          #20997
          JayCeeDeeJayCeeDee
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            @jayceedee
            Forumite Points: 230

            Try the hospital website – there might be information and contact numbers there.

            #20998
            johnbarryjohnbarry
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              @johnbarry
              Forumite Points: 13

              I will have a look

              I searched for parking at the hospital and it came up with

              https://www.parkopedia.com/

              Sadly there is nothing on there web to pre send, the contact details say

              Please note that we do NOT operate any of the parking facilities listed on the website and are thus unable to provide any further information about individual locations.

              I may have to wait and reply to the fine.

              Cheers
              John

              #21002
              johnbarryjohnbarry
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                @johnbarry
                Forumite Points: 13

                I tried the hospital, they have no email contact. I need to write to the hospital.

                I forgot to say I never got round to purchasing a dashcam.

                Cheers
                John

                #21027
                Bob WilliamsBob Williams
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                  @bullstuff2
                  Forumite Points: 0

                  John I am about to start Chemo, after a Pre – Assessment on Thursday I will have a date for that next week.

                  At all our Lincolnshire and East Yorkshire hospitals, and many others I know of, patients having cancer treatment get free parking after registering at pre-assessment. I think you should look that up with the people on the ward your partner is with for her radio therapy. Check the website carefully.

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                  I'm out.

                  #21032
                  RichardRichard
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                    @sawboman
                    Forumite Points: 16

                    Bob, too right though it does not making parking spaces available… Apparently with ‘our lot’ you just stick the card, (well paper) on the dashboard and you can park in any available space. You do not register a car at all as sometimes a different ‘helper’ might be acting as driver.

                    I have made a copy and laminated both the original and the copy as I suspect there will be a considerable amount of use racked up, – four visits since the pre-assessment. It does offer a big help and should be available to assist anyone with this issue. It is hard enough with all the visits anyway.

                    Take a strong case or bag for the paperwork… It will grow as the visits go ahead. It is well worth reading through it all as there are all sorts of nuggets of help, interest and guidance – well my wife’s bundle does anyway. She now has the wig, scarves/hats and the PICC waterproof on order.

                    #21038
                    johnbarryjohnbarry
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                      @johnbarry
                      Forumite Points: 13

                      Thanks Bob

                      It says that chemo-Radio patients get a reduction.

                      At this stage we only have an appointment for the Oncologist.

                      In affect the pre run was only a run. When she does see the Oncologist we will park in a car park and pay on exit, she has chemo at another hospital and as your hospital chemo patients don’t pay. This hospital doesn’t do radio therapy, or it would be no problem with parking.

                      Richard She has had the picc since January, the hair came out after the second chemo, she has the wig but prefers the hat and scarf. The hats are a bit much for her while the sun is out. The next Chemo (6th) is her last then she goes onto Radio Therapy.

                      Hence the change of hospital and the parking difference.

                      Cheers
                      John

                      #21039
                      The DukeThe Duke
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                        @sgb101
                        Forumite Points: 5

                        We are spoilt in Wales, our parking is free. Just like our prescriptions.

                        They did try start pay and display, but it only lasted about 6 months and stopped. That was probably 7 years ago. Lucky for us, as over the last five years, I use it a lot.

                        I never use the wife’s blue badge. I’ll always drop her at the door, then park up and catch up, she doesn’t move that quick.

                        Tbh I’m not to sure on the rules of the badge. And I’m fully able to walk etc, so I don’t mind dropping her, and leaving the space for someone that does have mobility issues.

                        #21041
                        Bob WilliamsBob Williams
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                          @bullstuff2
                          Forumite Points: 0

                          Understand your reluctance to take a BB space Steve, but the badge is for your missus, not the car. She could travel in any car to and from anywhere, and stick the badge up. That’s what my missus did when I went into hospital: she got a blue badge based upon her own disabilities online, and has travelled in 4 different cars using it since. Including mine, with my son as a named driver. They could not have used my badge, as the journey was for her purposes. She even used it in our neighbours car when I was home but unable to drive.

                          Entirely your business and your principles I know, but lots of people are unaware of all the rules behind the Blue Badge.

                          When the Thought Police arrive at your door, think -
                          I'm out.

                          #21044
                          The DukeThe Duke
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                            @sgb101
                            Forumite Points: 5

                            The badge badge came after the car. Took her about 3 years, to get the disability or whatever it is. It lives in the glove box as our car is the only one she goes in.

                            Re the rules I’ve never looked them up proper. I found out about London when I was paying one day, and I found out about the tolls stuff at the same time. Other than that, we don’t really have a need for it. She gets dropped of at the door of wherever we are going, and I’ll go and park.

                            Sometimes it’s the best 3 mins of the day, pure silence lol

                            What does annoy me a little is people that use the badge and the spaces, that don’t have movement issues. I know they have a badge, and may well have an awful disability. But if it was me, I couldn’t take the space if I could walk fine.

                            Just cos you can, doesn’t mean you should.

                            I’d die of shame if I was parked in a disability spot,even if I was escorting the wife, and an oap or disabled person stopped and asked why I was there. I could point to the badge and tell the to f-off, (I’ve seen it done), but I’d just die of shame, and move the car for someone who needs it.

                            I think of it as if it was my wife wanting to get somewhere, I’d hope she could get a space, and thst someone who has an escort driver would move for her.as the escort driver is fine to walk 100m extra.

                            That’s how I see it. Also if your blind and driving, I’d let them park close to.though I doubt there are many blind drivers.

                             

                            #21048
                            PlaneManPlaneMan
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                              @planeman
                              Forumite Points: 196

                              I agree about people using the Blue Badge incorrectly. I’ve told people that they are abusing it when they say to me ‘I’m getting shopping for ‘whatever relative’, no relative in the car, and I’ve just taken a photo and told them that they are being reported and I hope you’re happy.

                              Lots of people seem to treat it as a licence to park how they want, even if the badge isn’t theirs. The badge is tied to the person, not the car.

                              #21050
                              RichardRichard
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                                @sawboman
                                Forumite Points: 16

                                Thanks Bob It says that chemo-Radio patients get a reduction. At this stage we only have an appointment for the Oncologist. In affect the pre run was only a run. When she does see the Oncologist we will park in a car park and pay on exit, she has chemo at another hospital and as your hospital chemo patients don’t pay. This hospital doesn’t do radio therapy, or it would be no problem with parking. Richard She has had the picc since January, the hair came out after the second chemo, she has the wig but prefers the hat and scarf. The hats are a bit much for her while the sun is out. The next Chemo (6th) is her last then she goes onto Radio Therapy. Hence the change of hospital and the parking difference.

                                That makes it all clear, there is some emotional investment many women feel about items such as hair. Thought she wanted to continue as before with false hair if necessary, but with hair. So she got the wig matched to her hair before anything happens. there is a slight softening of that feeling as she also bought the hats, in case they are more comfortable – I suspect they may be more useful at the end of the day.

                                I can see your problem with the parking at the new site. I do not know if radiotherapy will come on my wife’s agenda or where it could be, only time will tell.Most services are at the same site, so the oncologist the chemo, blood tests, dispensing, etc. are all there. The current hospital pass is till mid December, so things might change by then. In the past I parked off site across the road(s) in the town centre, it is cheaper. However, now things are changing, especially the available time to get things done. So where possible I use a different hospital for my blood tests, etc. as parking is easier, cheaper and if you choose your times, the service is faster. Time does become a serious issue when you are packing a number of appointments into the week, last week it was 6, this week it looks like ‘only’ being four, but they are all on two days.

                                #21055
                                johnbarryjohnbarry
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                                  @johnbarry
                                  Forumite Points: 13

                                  Chemo has been at hostpital 1 (lets call it H1) she had 2 choices of Hospitals for radio (H2 & H3),  H2 is nearest so she picked H2 Radio will be with a different onco. Had she have chosen H3 it would be with the same onco as H1 as she works at H1 & H3.

                                  The parking at H1 is a breeze we press the button on exit and say chemo with a password that changes each week (password is found on chemo ward) and the barrier lifts up.

                                  We have found H2 no longer uses barriers, tickets, just ANPR camera which I think at the machine (on exit) you put your car reg in (that’s what you do at Tesco)

                                  Not got a clue how the parking system works at H3.

                                  I thought Cancer was bad enough without parking problems and we have at least another year to go, once radio is complete she has to go back to H1 for injections (these are additonal to the injections she has to put in her stomach X5over 5 days before each chemo)

                                  On her last Chemo (04 June) she gets to ring the bell in the hospital (as do all patients as they finish Chemo) everyone cheers.

                                  Cheers
                                  John

                                  #21063
                                  dwynnehughdwynnehugh
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                                    @dwynnehugh
                                    Forumite Points: 0

                                    Someone said that we were lucky in Wales – free hospital car parking.  True.

                                    When you had to pay you could find spaces to park, now that it’s free the ones I have been to are jam packed and probably not all of the ‘visitors’ are patients – far too many ‘car sharing’ and using the hospital free car park as a meeting place.

                                    The law of unintended consequences?

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                                    #21067
                                    RichardRichard
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                                      @sawboman
                                      Forumite Points: 16

                                      I can see how that is a gruelling run and why the parking becomes an ever increasing issue as time goes on. Steve’s solution of dropping his wife and driving off to somewhere more distant is not always an option, sometimes the victim, sorry patient needs assistance on arrival, during the procedure and post arrival.

                                      I hate and do not trust those park and hope ANPR set ups as the exit camera can sometime miss you going – I had that happen at a Tesco shop (Southend if you are interested) where the car park gained a new exit, but without an exit spotting camera. I am not sure how a brain-dead simple camera set-up can deal with the case of a visitor who arrives, finds no spaces and leaves again. Unless there is a ‘minimum parking time’ calculation to allow drives through, it cannot work reliably. There is supposed to be an instruction board, and it is NOT supposed to be flat on the roof of a 12 story building and only visible to high flying aircraft passengers.

                                      #21068
                                      The DukeThe Duke
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                                        @sgb101
                                        Forumite Points: 5

                                        The only only ozzy I have issue with parking is Wrexham. Both Glan Clwyd (I go 3 plus times a week) and Bangor probably once a month, I never have issue with parking. Bangor is my fav to visit, as the carpark to hospital ration is the best out of all the ozzys I visit. Always space on the back top carparkm

                                        Glan Clwyd if it’s near visiting time, can fill up, but that’s excapable . I still don’t get why people park outside the ozzy during the day, just to fey tickets. There is always space, the pace is covered in carparks.

                                        The one in Manchester we go (Christies iirc) , probably evey 6 to 8 weeks, is paid, and never had space. Ever. Tbh I’m yet to actually find a proper carpark it’s just small sections scattered around the complex. Though there is a great old cemetery close

                                        Wrexhams carpark seems large, and it’s sprawling, but never in all my time have I found a space. I usually park, and stay in the car, around the back where the laundry vans pick up drop off, and just move out their way as needed. Or I’ll just go and park on the local cemetery and have a nap.

                                        Gabaowyn (the one i go yearly) is an out layer, it has great car parks but is pay and display. But the hospital is so efficient I’ve never had to pay, as every time Ive drove in someone has been driving out with unexpired tickets, and handed it me. So I can’t recall ever paying over the last 10 years. I think the people at 9am pay them the tickets are just handed around all day.

                                        Wow, I could write a book on hospital car parks, and where best to park of full.

                                        Thankfully zero ozzy trips this week. But over all I’m yet to see these unintended concequences over parking, and I’m there often.

                                        I’d rather have to spend 5 mins looking for a spot, than the oppersite, where staff and long term patients can’t afford to park on the carpark, so the streets around the hospitals get filled up, upsetting locals and causing some traffic issues (all legal, thr illegal can have tickets) , leaving a half empty carpark, just Sat there cos of its expence. Irrc the CP was about £3 for half a day, that adds up fast if your going often. Not the biggest of deals if you go once a week, but alot of people need to go every day. Workers, patients , and family.

                                         

                                         

                                        #21071
                                        RichardRichard
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                                          @sawboman
                                          Forumite Points: 16

                                          Someone said that we were lucky in Wales – free hospital car parking. True. When you had to pay you could find spaces to park, now that it’s free the ones I have been to are jam packed and probably not all of the ‘visitors’ are patients – far too many ‘car sharing’ and using the hospital free car park as a meeting place. The law of unintended consequences?

                                          Think yourself lucky; here most people have to pay for the hospital car park except that some do not because there are no spaces. The car park nearer to the town is cheaper and usually has spaces available. Hospital parking is very much a distress purchase and has to be prepaid and thus could be over paid for the time needed, while the cheaper town car park is pay only for the time used on completion.

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