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  • #18517
    RSBRSB
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      @bdthree
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      Had my first call from the scammers saying I had downloaded a suspicious program but before he got chance to try and scam me I said Linux and he hung up.

      Americans: Over Sexed, Over Payed and Over here, Wat Wat!

      #18518
      Dave RiceDave Rice
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        @ricedg
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        The latest I heard was an automated message saying it was from your ISP and you were going to be disconnected.

        My call blocker stops it ringing the phone, I picked this up from the recording it makes when asking the callers name for you to vet.

        #18520
        RichardRichard
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          @sawboman
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          Dave, do those devices easily deal with calls from the (genuine) NHS which uses unknown numbers? We get a number of those calls, perhaps 4~20 times more of them than we get scam calls, we cannot afford to block NHS calls. The silly ‘international calls’ with, or without a number, can easily be left to the answering machine no one validly makes such calls to us.

          #18525
          The DukeThe Duke
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            @sgb101
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            I use true caller on my mobile, it filters out all spam calls, and you can one touch black list numbers. If so many peeps black list a number, the system blocks it for all.

            A combination of that, and keeping my phone on priority calls only. Keeps my very old phone number quiet.

            Android priority calls feature is very good. Though you need a bit of nouce to set it up. It’s as simple as activating it, then going through your contact list and ‘starring’ what numbers you want to make your phone ring. All other calls, that true caller let’s through, will be silent. That way i can decide if i want to call someone back.

            My starred contacts, are close family, (not all) doctors, some NHS numbers, and work numbers that are usually times sensitive. Oh and my mechanic. Other than that i ignore all calls. And have a block on all private unlisted numbers. I’ll decide if i want to talk to someone in my own time.

            It’s a shame we need to manage phone calls so much.

            I’d like a facebook type system, at i first have to ‘friend’ before they can even contact be. One big global database, where your name and a bit of info about you (user discretion), so anyone can request to contact me, but you can turn the down and blacklist them from asking again.

            A system like that is needed for phone and email. What’s great and also bad, is we sort of have this with Facebook, but no one trusts them. I still think they are that big they now won’t fail (famous last words), and one day they will be the defacto world communication network.

            Umtill then its a matter of anally micromanaging your own contacts.

            If you’re talking about landline call management, there is a company that sells a type of intercepted box that pre-screens numbers. I can’t recall its name, but I’m sure on of the MM for mum members got one and spoke highly of it. I’m not sure who, or if they migrated here after the apocalypse

            #18535
            Bob WilliamsBob Williams
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              @bullstuff2
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              +1 for Truecaller.

              When the Thought Police arrive at your door, think -
              I'm out.

              #18540
              Dave RiceDave Rice
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                @ricedg
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                Yes it’s Truecaller. We don’t reject unknown numbers. White list numbers go straight through, black list get told to politely eff off. For the rest, genuine callers will say their name when asked by the machine, it then rings the phone, plays back what they said and you press 1 to answer or hang up. I’ve found most people are now quite used to them, especially doctors etc.

                Cold callers give up at this point and hang up (so the phone never rings) but automated message just drone on and get recorded, so you then reject the call by hanging up. There are other options to black or white list them.

                It acts as an answer machine if you don’t answer within X rings. The machine has a nice red lit button when there’s a message waiting and you just press it to play. Left to delete and right to keep. Easy. I’m sure there are options to do this remotely but we don’t use them.

                Best £100 I ever spent.

                #18542
                PlaneManPlaneMan
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                  @planeman
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                  I’ve not had a landline for a very long time, easily 15 years. Mobile only.

                  The benefit of living in Virgin cabled areas despite 3 different addresses.

                  Had a call about an hour ago from an unknown Cardiff number, ignored it. No Message left. Quick search and it turned to be the automated appointment confirmation number for one of the hospitals I have to visit quite often. Number has changed since my last appointment ? It’ll call back within a day.

                   

                  Truecaller hates my OnePlus 5T, keeps crashing so is now removed.

                  #18548
                  TipponTippon
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                    @tippon
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                    The idea of Truecaller is great, but it doesn’t work very well here. By the time it’s found the number, I’ve either answered, or it’s gone to voicemail. When it does work, more often than not it’s marked a legitimate number as spam e.g. bank numbers, or utility companies. They get flagged by people who are presumably avoiding their bills, then don’t get through to me

                    #18551
                    The DukeThe Duke
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                      @sgb101
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                      Tippon i don’t get that. My phone doesn’t call if it’s a spam number, so i don’t get the chance to answer the call. I’ve never seen that happen.

                      What phone do you have, is it an older or slower phone. I’ve been using TC for about 6 years. Cos it was bundled into CM Roms. Actually the baked in TC I’m CM was the best way to use TC, it worked so so well.

                      Now ever since i gave up my 1+1 for the nexus 6, and now pixel, i had to adapt a tad as the TC app isn’t quote as seemless, but its been that long, i can’t recall what it was i didn’t find as seamless.

                      Though I’ve never had it ring while deciding wether it was spam or not. Could that be a CPU thing. Ad I’ve often wondered how it works it out so fast. I speculated (to my self) it may hold the call for an extra second before connection, or before it decides to ring my end, using that extras ring cycle to make its choice.

                      I wonder if it uses a downloaded spam table, device side, (probaly not) or is it reliant on internet speed? If its the latter, i wonder what would happen if i was to disable both data and wifi. Would all the spam calls sail through.

                      White and black list are device side, so that would no doubt work ad normal, as would withheld numbers, but i wonder how spam walls would fair. Not really an experiment i want to do, so ill probably never know.

                       

                      #18556
                      Dave RiceDave Rice
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                        @ricedg
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                        I have the standalone system and the only number lists it looks at are your own. There is no central pubic black list.

                        You can manage your lists and look at your call history from a cloud app (it sends call data to a server) and it was useful during the first free year but not worth paying for. By that time our lists were pretty stable.

                        We found that black listing junk calls was mostly a waste of time as they change numbers. The fact they are asked to identify themselves is enough to make them give up. One brave soul did try it once and that’s in 3 or 4 years.

                        #18557
                        TipponTippon
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                          @tippon
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                          I had it both of our OnePlus Ones, and now I’ve got it on the Honor 9. When we first got the 1+1 it wasn’t as bad, so it may be that the lists are getting bigger and taking longer to check.

                           

                          The internet can be flaky here, but the chances of it being flaky every time we get unknown calls is unlikely. I’ve had the same problem on wifi and mobile too.

                          #18558
                          The DukeThe Duke
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                            @sgb101
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                            What is the name of you4 hardware set up dave? It sounds very good. I may even plug a phone into my home line one day.

                            #18604
                            Dave RiceDave Rice
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                              @ricedg
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                              It’s https://www.truecall.co.uk

                              £98 on amazon

                              #18605
                              The DukeThe Duke
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                                @sgb101
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                                Cheers you tricked me, as in a post above, you called it truecaller (i assume that an auto correct issue).

                                I wonder if the two, truecall and the app Truecaller are related.

                                #18612
                                Dave RiceDave Rice
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                                  @ricedg
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                                  Well spotted, I didn’t notice. I don’t think they are related as Truecaller is Swedish and TrueCall was founded by Steven Smith which sounds pukka British.

                                  Richard, there’s a good TechRadar review that goes into the features I have forgotten as we don’t use them.

                                  BT do a DECT handset, the BT8500, which uses TrueCall even though they call it BT Call Guardian. It does away with the extra box and builds the Truecall features into the base station. They do cheaper BT “Nuisance Call Blocker” DECT phones but I don’t think these are TrueCall as they use a BT blacklist.

                                  #18616
                                  Ed PEd P
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                                    @edps
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                                    Thankfully Dave pointed me towards the BT Truecall some while ago and I completely agree with his comment on its value.

                                    You can if you wish block all calls from people not on the trusted list. (this setting gives real peace of mind value to anyone who has any relatives who have lost a few marbles: a so-called ‘dementia setting‘). They also have a special ‘I’m from Microsoft’ setting that makes it far more difficult for India call centres to get through. link

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