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  • #11501
    The DukeThe Duke
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      @sgb101
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      I had a, missed engineer car though my post box yesterday, apparently they was here to fit a smart meter.

      I know we can refuse them, and tbh never looked into one. So before I call him back set a date or tell him I don’t want one, I’d like some opinions on the smart meter, good and bad. Please.

      #11506
      Dave RiceDave Rice
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        @ricedg
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        I’m not getting one as the old meter goes backwards on very sunny days when the solar panels are at full whack.

        The only plus point I can see is no more meter reading saving me a whole 10 minutes a month.

        The main waster of electricity here is my daughter and a smart meter won’t change that. She’s off to Uni in 10 days. When she has to start paying for things herself is when she’ll change her ways.

        #11507
        keith with the teefkeith with the teef
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          @thinktank
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          I got a smart meter. Old one and so not up to speed with rates excetra but if you fancy testing individual appliances in your home for power consumtion then Hmmm.

          #11511
          Ed PEd P
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            @edps
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            I’m not getting one for similar reasons to Dave, but we already get 90% of any benefits from the computer built into the battery inverter controls. I understand for those without a feed-in Tariff system the leccy companies are now looking at rolling out ‘special offers’ tp those with smart meters/equipment. For example you may get specially discounted rates for using your tumble-dryer when they have too much wind/solar generation being fed into the system.

            #11514
            The DukeThe Duke
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              @sgb101
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              I don’t have solar here, and won’t be getting it as sadly the mountain blocks the sun for a lot of the day.

              So solar aside, no one sees much negatives. It’s not its going to change my bills. Will have a little look around the net. Though I know there is some people seriously against the SMs. Moaning about radiation etc…

              Years ago my old neighbour, lovely women, wanted a water meter installing as she was on her own. However as our water connection feeds through both houses, the water board (or whomever) said, she would have to talk us into having one too.

              I felt sorry for her, but at that time we had a house of 7, I was not opting for a water meter. 4 washes a day +,  multiple baths and showers, plus about 30 toilet flushes etc. I’ll stick to the flat rate thanks.

              #11515
              Dave RiceDave Rice
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                @ricedg
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                The theory is people wake up to what they’re using as they can see it in real time. They will then switch things off.

                For all those I know that have one it’s a 5 minute wonder. It still hasn’t convinced my in-laws to replace their incandescent bulbs with LEDs, but neither will they switch their supplier or even move off the default tariff.

                Without being too conspiracy theory about it, I believe the control aspect is what it’s all about, but from the other end. It’s the usual politicians answer. It looks like a good idea until you actually do some proper thinking it through, but what the heck, you can tick a box in the green column so that’s OK yah.

                #11524
                Bob WilliamsBob Williams
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                  @bullstuff2
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                  This is from your other Thread Steve:

                  Ever used the MSE forum Steve?     http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/

                  Make up a user name & password, check out “Energy” and look for Smart meter Threads, there are a lot.

                  My own refusal to let EDF fit a Smartmeter, is based upon the absolutely incompetent way that government have gone about it.

                  *Planning is non-existent. As usual in the UK, there has been no single government initiative to ensure it goes smoothly. Every Westminster department that could have a finger in the pie, adds to the chaos.

                  *There are several different meters. If you switch energy suppliers, your smartmeter will probably not work with the next supplier.

                  *Training has been hit and miss. There are press stories about some new, half-trained fitters causing meters to break down, fitting wrong meters, incorrect wiring, even some fires.

                  *The programme as ‘planned’ by government, has a projected budget of  £11 Billion. This is expected to at least double.

                  *ALL energy users in the UK will pay for this by rising costs in their energy bills.

                  *I read my own meter every 2 months (every month in winter) and send readings via the excellent EDF website. I get a new bill within 24 hours, if I have paid too much they reduce my DD: too little and they increase it. The amount has not moved since last December. What is wrong with that system? Nothing. Takes me 15 minutes at the most, to read gas and leccy, then send readings. Simples!

                  *I had brand new meters fitted 2 years ago.

                  I told EDF “thanks, but no thanks” – It is not compulsory. *Some of the usual scumbags have been out doorknocking and convincing people that it IS compulsory.

                  When the Thought Police arrive at your door, think -
                  I'm out.

                  #11527
                  wasbitwasbit
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                    @wasbit
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                    Smart meters are the biggest scam going. It’s for one reason & one reason only – to save the cost of reading the meters.

                    AFAIK, you are not even offered a lower bill for the electric companies savings & just like the gas & telephone companies they will remove any discounts by renaming the tariff.

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                    #11539
                    Bob WilliamsBob Williams
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                      @bullstuff2
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                      The suppliers say that the meters will make consumers more conscious of what they use and adjust their usage accordingly. Once again, it’s up to the customer to do the work. Screw that: if we are cold, I put the heating on. If I need to see what I am doing, I put the light on. I use computers whenever I want and I charge devices when they need it. (All of this is a battle between myself and my dear SWMBO, who turns down a thermostat and then complains that the rads are cold.)

                      I carry out regular meter reads and I keep an eye on bills. I am at the stage of life when I refuse to worry about something as daft as energy use.

                      When the Thought Police arrive at your door, think -
                      I'm out.

                      #11546
                      Ed PEd P
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                        @edps
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                        Different economics arise if you generate your own leccy. The wife looks at the weather forecast, makes a judgement of midday sunshine then puts the tumble-dryer on if we are likely to be exporting., Her fall-back is to put it on at night and use the night-time rate. We do not use electrical heating so the only big users are the dryer, dish-washer and iron. Just saves pennies but the wife likes feeling in control (the leccy and FIT payment are all in her name for some obscure reason)

                        #11560
                        The DukeThe Duke
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                          @sgb101
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                          The FiL has pv, and plans his day around the weather

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